Security so stupid it shocks the senses


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Drizzt
April 5, 2003, 12:07 AM
Security so stupid it shocks the senses

Friday, April 4, 2003

By JEFFREY PAGE
STAFF WRITER



This may read like a Henny Youngman one-liner, but it is not.

U.S. Marines deployed to Iraq were about to board a chartered commercial airliner for the flight to the Middle East when they were informed that security precautions barred them from carrying their knives with them. So they disposed of the knives and took their seats - with their M-16 rifles and M-60 machine guns.

Nor is this.

To get into a certain office building in Boston you have to show photo identification, but if you're part of a group, only one member has to show photo ID.

Or this.

A guy drove to Universal Studios, where guards using mirrors examined the undercarriage of his car. Finding no bombs, they insisted on opening his trunk. He opened the trunk. They took a look at the contents but didn't examine them.

It's the Post-Sept. 11 Age of Security, and those three cases of - pardon the expression - overkill are entered in the Stupid Security Contest conducted by the privacy watchdog organization Privacy International, with offices in Washington and London.

Privacy International received 5,000 nominations and will announce the most counter-productive, most annoying, most inexplicable, most intrusive, and most egregious security demands at today's concluding session of the 13th annual Conference on Computers, Freedom, and Privacy at the Hotel New Yorker.

Some of the entries are just goofy in the extreme. For example, security guards at the University of Texas at Austin are very strict when it comes to refusing entry to cars without valid university permits. No permit, no entry. But the guards go off duty at 4 p.m.

Others take your breath away. A woman flying with her 4-month-old baby from Florida to New York was going through airport security. An airport guard inspected her bottle bag and discovered three plastic bottles containing a white liquid.

What could it be?

"Breast milk," the woman replied.

The guard wasn't sure and ordered her to drink the milk, telling her that if she didn't comply there was no way she was flying to New York. She was infuriated, but she drank it.

Another incident that makes your hair stand on end was reported by a man flying from San Francisco to London not long after the arrest of Richard Reid, the man who tried to take down an airliner with a bomb in his shoe.

The man, traveling alone, was asked to remove his shoes. He complied and handed them to the security officer who took them and slammed them on the floor with all his might. "Apparently," the traveler said in his nominating letter, "as they hadn't exploded, they were not dangerous."

The food court of a huge conference center in Washington was nominated for its incomprehensible rule that requires you to show your driver's license to get in for lunch. "This action apparently proves that you're not a terrorist threat and that you can be granted access to a hamburger and fries," read the nominating note.

Another nomination came from a man who discovered that when flying on a budget Irish airline, passengers must produce photo identification. Acceptable is an international student ID card, which anyone can get.

Unacceptable is a United Kingdom armed forces identification card, which is much harder to come by - except for active duty service personnel.

http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkyJmZnYmVsN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2MzYyMTQy

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John G
April 5, 2003, 01:47 AM
The same thing happened to me when my unit was leaving Thailand. We had everything on the plane (Tower Air), from M16s to 60s, to mortars. But all our Leathermans and Gerber Gators had to be stored in the luggage compartment. This was in 1995. :rolleyes:

4570Rick
April 5, 2003, 02:33 AM
These measures are taken to improve security...:scrutiny:




















Do you feel secure yet?:fire:

CZ-75
April 5, 2003, 02:52 AM
Unacceptable is a United Kingdom armed forces identification card, which is much harder to come by - except for active duty service personnel.

Could be the Irish don't much care for the Brits, too. ;)




My own nomination would be for an incident that happened to me at Lambert Field in St. Louis, about two weeks after 9/11. The security-type dingbat there got mad at me for setting my garment bag next to my suitcase when she was doing the surface swab for explosive residue. I believe any trace of residue should be enough to search and seize my bags and person, without trying to be concerned that the bomb in my garment bag is interfering with her tests on my suitcase. :rolleyes:

Bad news is probably that this idiot is now a govt. employee.

Shweboner
April 6, 2003, 12:45 PM
When I went to the Washington County building here to get my CHL paperwork turned in, I had to leave my keys in a locker at the security checkpoint.... Why you might ask????

Because of my keychain...

An 8mm shell case. There is NO bullet in it, NO powder, the primer is obviously spent... tehre is a HOLE through the neck where my keyring goes through... Basically it was a piece of brass! I thought they were joiking... I MIGHT be able to hurt someone with it, if I jammed it down their throat, and tehn... MAYBE.
That struck me as odd, since it was obviously inert and I was in a building full of armed cops??????? what a ****ing joke... if I was there for trouble, i'd have just shot them on my way in.... idiots.

Tropical Z
April 6, 2003, 02:01 PM
But it makes the "sheeple" feel so much safer dont ya know!:barf:

tommytrauma
April 6, 2003, 05:18 PM
Shortly after 9/11, a DEA agent was flying out of DFW. Since he had the proper credentials and paperwork, he was allowed to carry his beretta 9mm and his extra ammo, but he still had to surrender his nail clippers. (Edit: it was the El Paso airport, not DFW. I'm getting senile)

And most of us have heard about Joe Foss. He was detained at an airport check point, and not allowed to fly with an object with a slightly sharp series of points found in his pocket. The object? His Congressional Medal of Honor.
(Retired General Foss passed away recently. May he rest in peace. )

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