Ruger vs FN vs Steyr HELP picking firm firearm!


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thepanda
December 13, 2005, 06:56 AM
First of all, hello. This is my first post to the forum. I have spent several weeks reading about handguns and have finally decided to ask for personal advice.

I am going to buy my first handgun sometime this month. I want this firearm for range shooting, but am most worried about a reliable gun for personal defense. I'm currently considering the Ruger P345PR in .45 ACP, the FN Herstal P40, and the Steyr M9. I can purchase each gun for similar prices (around $360-$370), but was wondering what the general consensus on each firearm is. Are there any other guns I should consider? Is the Taurus 24/7 worth considering? How about the CZ 40p or cz 75?

Thank you.

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cz75bdneos22
December 13, 2005, 07:06 AM
i vote for Ruger...:scrutiny:
any caliber will do...
get whichever is the best "value" to you..YMMV

TDR911
December 13, 2005, 09:44 AM
Your best bet is to go to the range and rent every type of gun you are thinking about. First time owners are easily let to a gun that does not fit them for many reasons.
First hand comfort. Trigger pull, correct size for your application, Concealment, available accessories and trigger enhancing add ons.
Most of the lower priced guns do not have any accessories available.
The Ruger is the most popular and has more accessories, The FN is #2, and the Steyr is #3 in my personal rating.

Good luck. Tony D

trueblue1776
December 13, 2005, 09:57 AM
Personally I would go for the Steyr, but I've always been a little hooker for german guns. The Taurus 24/7 and the CZ75 are VERY good choices also. Never been a fan of Ruger autos though, they were however, the runner up against the Berretta 92 for the USG contract during the field trials back in the day. They cant be all bad, I did not like the fit (rattle) and finish on their guns. They are all reliable good choices though. Have fun, shop around. Check out some police dept, trade ins or refurbs, I've seen nice Sig 220 .45's go in the high $300 to low $400 range lately.

JDGray
December 13, 2005, 10:07 AM
I own the Ruger P345, accurate & 100 % reliable ! Made in the USA ! JDGray

Pilot
December 13, 2005, 10:26 AM
Its a personal choice, go fondle them and if possible shoot some. I have a couple of CZ-75's and a Steyr M9. They're all good, but I prefer the CZ's.

KONY
December 13, 2005, 05:43 PM
Personally I would go for the Steyr, but I've always been a little hooker for german guns.

Being nitpicky here but Steyr is actually an Austrian product ala Glock.

Flashpoint
December 13, 2005, 05:49 PM
I like the Rugers, they're tough guns, but they point real low for me. On the other hand, I haven't found a more natural pointing gun the the Steyr. I would let pointablity be the first test to fit.

Rob96
December 13, 2005, 07:22 PM
I like the P345 but the thing that keeps me from it, is that darn loaded chamber indicator. Something about it just gnaws at me. So for a 45acp Ruger I will stick to my P97.

Gun Wielding Maniac
December 13, 2005, 08:08 PM
I dislike guns with decockers. Ruger feels really thick and beefy in my hands, as well. I'd choose a CZ-75 or a BHP. I own both and they are great guns. The fact that the trigger pull is the same between each shot really does eliminate part of the learning curve.

JShirley
December 13, 2005, 08:10 PM
Some folks I know and respect think highly of the Steyr.

Personally, I've never thought very highly of Ruger semiautos.

John

KONY
December 13, 2005, 09:32 PM
Some folks I know and respect think highly of the Steyr.


Very underrated pistols. You can still get them cheap from CDNN. I am a big fan of their manual safety. I wish other pistols borrowed this design. :(

BHPshooter
December 13, 2005, 10:55 PM
I have handled all three, and I would say that I prefer the FN first, the Ruger second, and the Steyr last.

All are good guns, but the FN is my pick -- it just feels best to me. The ruger is a nice, solid gun, but feels topheavy to me. The Steyr dosn't feel topheavy to me, but the grip angle is all wrong for me... the trapezoid sights are pretty cool, though.

The only way to know for sure is to handle them all yourself, and if possible, shoot them.

Wes

MCgunner
December 13, 2005, 11:10 PM
My P90 is my absolute favorite center fire autoloader. I'd pick the Ruger hands down. Rugers work, and my P90 is match grade accurate right out of the box. It don't get no better.

CAnnoneer
December 13, 2005, 11:49 PM
Ruger

osteodoc08
December 14, 2005, 12:43 AM
Another for Ruger. Good products, good service.

RON in PA
December 14, 2005, 02:53 AM
Ruger

gudel
December 14, 2005, 03:14 AM
Who does the warranty work for FN or Steyr, where are they located?

Rob96
December 14, 2005, 06:06 AM
My P90 is my absolute favorite center fire autoloader. I'd pick the Ruger hands down. Rugers work, and my P90 is match grade accurate right out of the box. It don't get no better.


Isn't it incredilble how accurate they are. From what I have heard. During the development of the P90, Ruger went to Barsto for input on the barrel.

The Drew
December 14, 2005, 09:24 AM
Of the choices, I think you'll get about the best value from the ruger, dollar wise It'll be about the cheapest. You won't be able to pick up a CZ75 for much less than $400.

I have heard good things about the steyr, but I'm not sure of the state of their importer. At one time not long ago I heard they went out of business... You may have trouble with warranty work if you go that route. (but check this, I may be wrong).

Since this will be a range gun, I'd reccomend a pistol in 9mm since you can shoot about twice as much for the same $$ for .45 You may want to look at a ruger P95 they can be had for around $300 even... and you'll have enough left over to buy a holster an extra mag and a bunch of ammo...

Flashpoint
December 14, 2005, 12:19 PM
I have heard good things about the steyr, but I'm not sure of the state of their importer. At one time not long ago I heard they went out of business... You may have trouble with warranty work if you go that route. (but check this, I may be wrong).

That rumors been going around for a while. They've had some issues with importers, but they've solved that problem by building their own plant in Georgia that's suppose to be open first part of 2006.

Who does the warranty work for FN or Steyr, where are they located?

Warranty work can be done on the Steyrs but I'm not sure who to contact, I've never had to deal with that issue.:)

Check out steyrclub.com for questions about warranty work and any other aspect of Steyr handguns.

salthouse
December 15, 2005, 04:11 PM
I've got a P90 and an S9. Both perform flawlessly. Hard to complain about any aspect of either.

MAGNUMMAN
December 16, 2005, 01:12 AM
Since this is your first pistol, I suggest you start with a 9mm. In a Ruger I would recommend their new P95D. Ruger pistols are as reliable as any other manufacturer's pistols, and no manufacturer's pistols are more reliable than Ruger's pistols. In the Steyr I would recommend the M9 A1 over the M9. The older model had some extraction problems that the new model has resolved. In my opinion the Steyr M9 A1 and M40 A1 are the best combat pistols in the world.

poppy
December 16, 2005, 11:04 AM
I'm in the Ruger 9mm camp for your first autoloader. The P95DC was the first pistol that I kept. poppy

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