Who is ready for the Springfield XD .45 ACP??

Yup that is what I said "ACP", not "GAP". It is really coming.

See for yourselves. I am going to start saving now.

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=472727&perpage=25&highlight=&pagenumber=1

Photos taken out of a magazine and scanned today.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/epsylum/xdad1-a.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/epsylum/xdad2-a.jpg

Call me when they release the 10mm version. :)

Hah, cool ad.

I blew my gun money on guns and a diamond ring for the wife as a Christmas gift. So that means no scope for the new TRG-22 for the next few months.

As to the XD, I'd have to wait for it to hit the California DOJ list before buying one. For 2006 all the newly added handguns have to have a chamber indicator, which the XD already has, so it'll be a shoe-in.

So what's gonna happen to their current 45GAP line?

I might be sold... If it has a big grip..

Very interesting..... :rolleyes:

Looks like the box includes a double mag holder and holster. Look at the lid of the gun box and it says it in the ad.... Maybe I'm seeing things... But if so, could be a real good deal....

I want one.

Kimber polymer in that thread looks interesting. I wonder what its origins are? Surely they are not making it themselves.

GR

I'd have to try one and see how big the grip was--I like my xd's now, would have to see how a bigger one to fit a 45 felt (unless they have somehow managed to fit a 45 in the regular sized one by some miracle, which wouldn't seem possible given the 45 gap).

I've actually considered the gap so as to get 45 in an xd, but somewhat fear its a fad. Guess we'll see.

I might be sold... If it has a big grip..

Most likely along the lines of the G-21, except more ergonomic.

I bet it is a Steyr. Looks and aweful lot like my M9.

Kimber polymer in that thread looks interesting. I wonder what its origins are? Surely they are not making it themselves.

GR

That might push me over the edge...I've been talking and talking about buying a fullsize auto but don't have one....

Most likely along the lines of the G-21, except more ergonomic.

Thats what I was thinking.. I dislike the g21, the finger groves pinch my finger, the grip angle is akward, and the ergos weren't right for me. The HK usp is better, and if this new XD is good, I might be sold on buying one. I have been looking for a 45acp glock alternative thats cheap, so I can use it to test handloads.

Thats what I was thinking.. I dislike the g21, the finger groves pinch my finger, the grip angle is akward, and the ergos weren't right for me. The HK usp is better, and if this new XD is good, I might be sold on buying one. I have been looking for a 45acp glock alternative thats cheap, so I can use it to test handloads.

It was the grip design that sold me on my HS 2000. With the combination of the high deep-cut web, lack of finger grooves, undercut trigger guard and the natural angle, it should be a major improvement for the small to average hand people, in handling a wider gripped gun.

All I can say is, it's about time. About time that gun comapanies start to listen to thier customers.

Maybe Ruger will do away with all the lawyer script on the sides...yeah right.

I'd look very hard at a 5" version. I guess I'm a weirdo and think .45ACP=5" barrel:cool:

I would be interested in one for sure. I like the 40 XD though the Tactical is not my favorite. It will be a hit if it is as reliable as the other models.

I like the XD's ergonomics. If the XD 45 ACP has similar characteristics, then I might seriously look at bringing one home. Unfortunately, I have a feeling my wife will be stealing it :D

Tom

Oooo... I'm in love.

I want my next handgun to be a rather small one for times when my 1911 is too big, but that XD looks to be next in line...

Looks like I'll have to edit my post about 2006 purchases on another thread.

*RAISES HAND*
SIR, I VOLUNTEER TO TEST THIS, SIR!

Quote:
"I might be sold... If it has a big grip.."

Not me, the Glock 21 feels like I'm holding a brick! If it's the same size as my XD9... I might be tempted.

Call me when they release the 10mm version. :)

Exactly. A gun with the same ballistics as the existing 45 GAP version but in a longer cartridge just doesn't excite me much.

*RAISES HAND*
SIR, I VOLUNTEER TO TEST THIS, SIR!

Even you moderaters have to get in line. :D

Something tells me this will be an XBox 360 type launch- people waiting outside gun stores, waiting for the opening. Major backlogs, due to high demand.

I like XDs somewhat better than Glocks, so to me it is a viable rival to the 21. However, I likely won't sell my 21 for one. I have it nicely modified to suit me. Now should Springfield take advantage of the larger platform to offer .38 Super or 10mm, then I may have to take a closer look.

GR

Pics of the XD-45ACP and the XD-45GAP for comparison. They look to be the same size. Notice that they increased the circumference of the magazine well, and not that of the grip...

http://www.springfield-armory.com/images/xd-pistol/XD9611HCSP06.jpg

http://www.springfield-armory.com/images/xd-pistol/gap/4in/XD9504.jpg

The Springfield XD 45 acp web site

http://www.springfield-armory.com/prod-xdpstl-45acp.shtml

Brad

Heh heh...you beat me to it. I was taking those two pictures and switching between them in tabs in Firefox. If they are remotely the same scale you can spot the size differences easily as you flash between the two. There are not many. Okay, I am in. I have to have one of these. My Glock 21 is probably trembling in the safe right now...

:evil:

GR

I'm not seeing much of a difference in girth. Did Springfield pull a Rabbit out of the hat? Firepower and manageable size? My HS2K won't be lonely any longer! :)

It can definately be done. My Taurus 24/7 in 45 was the same size as a Glock 17. In every way it felt like you were holding a 9mm. Even the mags were much smaller than G21 mags. So if Taurus can do it, I see no reason why SA and their Croatian associates could not.

GR

:scrutiny: Looks interesting! As soon as I can hold one in my hand and see for myself, I'll decide...

I'm not seeing much of a difference in girth. Did Springfield pull a Rabbit out of the hat? Firepower and manageable size? My HS2K won't be lonely any longer! :)


I'll have to handle a XD in 9MM and .45 to feela difference, I'm not seeing much in the pictures.

The Springfield XD 45 acp web site

http://www.springfield-armory.com/prod-xdpstl-45acp.shtml

Brad

Neat graphics and info...I've been waitin' 5 damned years, baby!

Davidson's Gallery of Guns already has them listed. Stock shows as allocated and there are none available at the moment. Can't be to long now. And I almost bought a 9mm for XMAS!

One of the fellers on the XD Forum called SA today to order some springs, and asked about the time of release. The rep said in about 60 days...YES! :)

Personally, I'd rather have a Para-Ordnance P14.45. At least it has less plastic on it. ;)

I don't get it, there's this advertisement on their site that shows the grip and magwell of the XD45ACP, USP45, Glock 21, in that order and says the XD has the smallest grip. But I'm looking at it and it looks like it's the largest with the smallest being the USP, I take the image into photoshop and measure pixels and sure enough the USP is the smallest and the XD is the largest. :confused:

Maybe my eyes are too sharp and they mean for me to compare the back to front distance based on the bottom of the grip, which would have little point. Dumb ad and I don't like staring down a Glock 21s anal cavity.

with a barrel at 4'' and the large velocity drop .45ACP has that begins with barrels under Commander 4.25'' length, it fails to say "big firepower" to me. I second the previous posters opinion about .45 and 5-inch barrels but I think there's some sound science behind it as well.

I don't get it, there's this advertisement on their site that shows the grip and magwell of the XD45ACP, USP45, Glock 21, in that order and says the XD has the smallest grip. But I'm looking at it and it looks like it's the largest with the smallest being the USP, I take the image into photoshop and measure pixels and sure enough the USP is the smallest and the XD is the largest. :confused:

Umm how are you measuring exactly? Are you taking into account the lenght from front to back and the width from side to side?

Using ONLY the pictures supplied on the website, I get the following area measurements (in pixels) using Photoshop CS2

Springfield XD-45ACP: 6295 px
HK USP-45: 6593 px
GLOCK 21: 6669 px

Granted, these are not completely accurate since resolution drops as you zoom in, and the view has a slight cant to it along with a few other issues; it's obvious that the front to back distance on the XD is less than the two others, and their widths are comprable....

*Double Post*

Umm how are you measuring exactly? Are you taking into account the lenght from front to back and the width from side to side?

Using ONLY the pictures supplied on the website, I get the following area measurements (in pixels) using Photoshop CS2

Springfield XD-45ACP: 6295 px
HK USP-45: 6593 px
GLOCK 21: 6669 px

Granted, these are not completely accurate since resolution drops as you zoom in, and the view has a slight cant to it along with a few other issues; it's obvious that the front to back distance on the XD is less than the two others, and their widths are comprable....I was measuring the widths side to side, the front to back length concerned me less because the photo shows the front to back area on the bottom of the grip and the front to back length only matters in terms of ergonomics at the area between thumb and forefinger. This part is not shown in the picture (they could make a new advert that cuts part of the grip off to show a real comparison), I guess I didn't understand what they were trying to say because their message is misleading, target pistols often have large grips toward the bottom which are very comfortable, but the ad tries to say this is less comfortable (bull????). size of a grip often flares toward the bottom, especially front to back length, given that all three of these pistols have different grip shapes... maybe a more substantial comparison can be made when these are released.

Besides I'm thinking a steel framed gun like a paraordnance or SA Hi-cap 1911s might be even better.

:D
I have to go against the grain and hope I can get my hands on and OD Green one before I find a black one. I believe I will buy the first one I find.
http://www.springfield-armory.com/images/xd-pistol/45acp/gun/LeftBlackLarge.jpg

Be careful about the blued upper XDs. I had three of them and they do rust as people often say. I hope SA has done something better about the finish. To be safe mine will be two-tone.

:D

GR

It would make sense that the XD's grip is noticeably smaller than that of the Glock 21. The G21/G20 grip is quite large because it was designed to accommodate both the fat .45 ACP cartridge and the long 10 mm cartridge.

It would make sense that the XD's grip is noticeably smaller than that of the Glock 21. The G21/G20 grip is quite large because it was designed to accommodate both the fat .45 ACP cartridge and the long 10 mm cartridge.10mm isn't longer than .45ACP, it was designed to fit the same magwells. Is the 21 grip wider than the 20 grip, wider than it needs to be? cuz the glock 20 came before.

i was surfing the web today and went to the web site and was blown away by the intro. i am so excited I jumped up and down for about an hour preaching to my wife about how great it is that they have released the xd in .45acp. I have been waiting for so long. i have one in .40 and I absolutly love it. Not only is it .45 caliber but it has a higher capacity than my service model! i can't wait to get one! i am getting good with mine and picking up another one would be no problem, to get used to!

Daddy Like!


Unfortunately for me XD means X-tra Dinero which I am plum out of.

This is the first time in years that I haven't recently purchased a gun, and actually have the bucks...BRING IT ON...;)

Just wondering, how's the recoil on the other XD's (particularly the .40) compare to other pistols chambered in the same round?

Just wondering, how's the recoil on the other XD's (particularly the .40) compare to other pistols chambered in the same round?

That's pretty subjective...Felt recoil for me shooting the .40 is quite manageable. Your mileage may vary. There are a lot of variables to consider.

Definately going to get one w/NS and it will replace the Sig 229 (.40) on the night stand.

What's cool is my wife seems to like 4 inch barrel .45s. Might just have to see if this is her speed (but I REALLY hope it's not).

Tom

Careful. My wife loved the XDs.

:D

GR

What's cool is my wife seems to like 4 inch barrel

You're a lucky man...most women seem to prefer a 6" barrel... :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomcat1066
What's cool is my wife seems to like 4 inch barrel

You're a lucky man...most women seem to prefer a 6" barrel...

As long as he shoots tight groups........



Anyway back to topic, will their packing a .45 into 9mm frame cause any sort of reliabilty issues?

Will important bits wear or break faster than would be expected?

Call me when they release the 10mm version. :)

Keep on dreamin.

Just get a Glock 20 and be done with it.

Hey there my peeps, anyone have any answer to my Q?


Will their packing a .45 into 9mm frame cause any sort of reliabilty issues?

Will important bits wear or break faster than would be expected?

Will their packing a .45 into 9mm frame cause any sort of reliabilty issues?

Will important bits wear or break faster than would be expected?

Here2learn,
I can't imagine any problems at all with the .45 in that frame, they will have or should have all that worked out in the planning and design phase. i am sure that they have put them through hell already, and worse case scenario it is sa and they do have a life time warranty and will make it right what ever the problem will be. I just wonder who the lucky dog is that gets to test and write an article on the xd in .45 acp first will be.

The .45ACP is a relatively low pressure round. I see no reliability or excess wear issues related to this.

Cool. Very cool.

I might be sold... If it has a big grip..


(14) 45ACP rounds, that should be plenty of grip don't ya think? I do, grip looks longer than the barrel, seems to be the evolution of the CCW.

jeepmor

PS - I don't think low pressure is a proper reference in this regard. The force on the slide is a function of the pressure AND the area of the round directly behind this force. All the other pressure forces are contained by the chamber during firing, but the recoil directly back is controlled by the spring.

The ACP round is lower pressure, but it is also bigger diameter. The forces are a function of the pressure (22,000 psi) and the area, which would be the area of the diameter of the shell. These are "instantaneosly" quite high due to this larger surface area and could easily cross into or exceed the forces of say a 9x19 simply due this larger diameter, even with the lower pressue. I have not done the math, but can if requested. What is the 9x19 pressure, I can calculate the "instantaneous" force for giggles. I don't have a micrometer on me though to get accurate shell bearing surface diameters at the moment.

Remember though that the XD platform also handles the .40S&W and 357 SIG along with the 9mm.

This comparative pic shows the new XD on the left...HK in the middle and G-21 on the right.
Front to back dimensions are quite telling.

http://www.springfield-armory.com/images/xd-pistol/45acp/Comparison.gif

...because my Hipower was smaller and better balanced. I would buy the XD in .45ACP in about as much time as it took to get the credit card out.
The trigger did slap my finger pretty hard, but I understand that's a training issue.
Now, an XD .45 Tactical....

Front to back dimensions are quite telling.
cough cough, that must make this gun one of the most uncomfortable in the world.
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/sig_h90104.jpg
oh wait, absolute ergonomic hell here:
http://www.geocities.com/drclem/ksp_2639777.jpg

I have one in my hand ...typing with one finger ;) .

It's very trim for a 13 rd 45 acp . Not blocky or rectangular at all .

Good work Springfield :cool:

How lucky you are sir. So how does it compare to the XD9 in terms of size?

GR

Surprisingly , it appears to be the same size . I compared it side by side to an XD357 and wrapped a tape around the grip right on the XD logo . Same size . Slide measures the same heigth and width as afaikt . The main difference is the grip is about 1/4" longer .

Very nice job !!

So is it for sale?

:D

And remember I asked first.

;)

GR

cough cough, that must make this gun one of the most uncomfortable in the world.
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/sig_h90104.jpg
oh wait, absolute ergonomic hell here:
http://www.geocities.com/drclem/ksp_2639777.jpg

What in the world are you talking about? The grips on the GLOCK, XD, and USP don't flare out at the base like the guns you have pictured above. Sure, the base may have a greater circumference than the grip towards the top where the web of your hand is, but (from my experience of handling all three) it's not such an extreme variation as to render the pictures devoid of any credence. :confused:

Such stark exaggeration adds nothing to the discussion here.

I'm going to get one. I had considered getting a Glock 21 but passed because I like Cast SWC bullets in 45acp.
Since the XD uses standard rifling, that's where I'll spend my money.

Green Frame, Black Slide... I'm buying one. So buying one.

So is it for sale?

:D

And remember I asked first.

;)

GR

Sorry . We sold it in the store today . :(
Thanks for asking .

Oh well, the Mrs. probably thanks you for it.

;)

GR

:D

I read you loud and clear .

Yep, getting one. :D

From the "why didn't they build this one FIRST category...

Yep, I am trading in the XD-40 for one of these...real, real soon.

Actually, when I was looking at the XDs in the gunstore, before I bought the XD-40, my exact words to the clerk was "this is interesting...now...where is the 45ACP version?" I wanted it back then.

Too cool. It will be at home in the safe, next to the three 1911s and the Sig 220!

- Brickboy240

Surprisingly , it appears to be the same size . I compared it side by side to an XD357 and wrapped a tape around the grip right on the XD logo . Same size . Slide measures the same heigth and width as afaikt . The main difference is the grip is about 1/4" longer .

Very nice job !!

Got the same feedback from one of the fellas on the XD Forum that had a chance to handle one. He said that it did not feel any different than his XD-40.
Springfield has hit a round-tripper with this offering, IMO....Are you listening Gaston? ;)

Exactly. A gun with the same ballistics as the existing 45 GAP version but in a longer cartridge just doesn't excite me much.

Actually, you are comparing the standard pressure .45 ACP to the higher pressure .45 GAP. The GAP is loaded as hot as it can be made already. The .45 ACP on the other hand can be loaded to +P pressures so saying that it's "a gun with the same ballistics as the existing 45 GAP version) is really only half the story. As for me, I'll be buying one in .45 ACP when they come out then fight off the wife for possession of it when I get it!:D What can I say, she loves her XD-40. :)

Does anyone know if there will be a 5" .45 ACP model coming out? I'm not very knowledgeable and would appreciate the help. What is the main difference between the 4" and 5" models? What are the benefits and uses of each? In what situations would each be better? I appreciate it.

I was close to getting a G38, but hesitating because I didn't want to stock another round (GAP) -- this will solve my problems. I'll put one on order Tuesday.

Does anyone know if there will be a 5" .45 ACP model coming out? I'm not very knowledgeable and would appreciate the help. What is the main difference between the 4" and 5" models? What are the benefits and uses of each? In what situations would each be better? I appreciate it.

The 5" "Tactical" model is being released with the 4". The difference is the 1" more of sight radius and slightly heavier muzzle weight.

Visit the XD Forum in my sig line for more info.

Forgive me but what would be the benefits of a 4" vs a 5" and vice versa? What situation would you want each for?

Hi talkman,

The post above yours pretty much enumerates the differences. With a 5", you get a bit more weight out front, which helps keeps muzzle rise down a bit (making follow-up shots faster), and you get an extra inch of sight radius which makes it a little easier to be accurate with the pistol.

Practical differences will be that the 4" will be a bit easier to conceal, though still not as easy as the even shorter models. Beyond that, you may like the way one handles and feels in your hands. Just find a shop with both and play around, shoot both if you can.

I know that I like my 9mm XD and was asking the same question, "where is the 45acp XD?"

I'm looking forward to buying one.:)

Looks like a bad azz pistola to me. I might have to add one to accomany my 4" XD-40.

Uum, lets see guys (and gals) I'm sure you have read my post on other THR
threads by now; as I got one of the first Springfield XD-45 (package guns)
to arrive in BamaLand. Its sooooooo sweet, and I can't wait too shoot it~!:D

I'm keeping my eyes peeled in my area for the xd-45, as I really want to check it out - not sure if I want my first 1911 or this gun first. Hoe quickly are these coming out? the gun shops in my area are telling me that it will be 2 months before they see them - what gives? Any auction sites seeing them yet? I'm hoping to get one at Cabela's if they come out soon.

I'm keeping my eyes peeled in my area for the xd-45, as I really want to check it out - not sure if I want my first 1911 or this gun first. Hoe quickly are these coming out? the gun shops in my area are telling me that it will be 2 months before they see them - what gives? Any auction sites seeing them yet? I'm hoping to get one at Cabela's if they come out soon.

I believe that select stores are getting the first batch (of 250) with everyone else coming on line as the month continues. Formal start-up of production will be the end of January, so your shop was correct in assuming 2 months.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/bytor94/homer_simpson_drool1.jpg[homer voice] must have .45 ACP XD...[/homer voice]

I believe that select stores are getting the first batch (of 250) with everyone else coming on line as the month continues. Formal start-up of production will be the end of January, so your shop was correct in assuming 2 months.

True Steve . We received one direct from Springfield , but I also found 1 at one of our distributors . So there are a small number in distribution . The dealer needs to get on the phone or email and notify his suppliers that he wants them . Might get lucky :)

This may be the .45ACP that gets me back into the caliber! If this model is as ergonomic, accurate and reliable as the XD-9 I have, I may just buy one! The XD-9 is the ONLY plastic pistol that I own now. I think of the XD line as the first real improvement to the Glocks. Glocks are now outdated since the XD have come along. They seem to know how to make a comfy double stack mag where Glock is lost at doing this. I think I might be able to hold the XD in .45 unlike the Glock 21 which is a joke unless you have ape hands.

If only i could get 14+= round magazines for my G37...
I'd be a happy camper. if not possible, then i may be tempted to trade/buy an XD-45 in Bi-tone...:what: i am open to all makes, not just Glock...:scrutiny:

Just got back from the local dealer and they had one in stock! Very nice pistol. The grip size was very manageable, and I have small-to-medium size hands.

It is hard to believe that this thing hold 13 in the magazine! This should be a hot seller!

They were asking $529 and it included holster, case and two 13 round magazines!

I am sure not having any luck finding one here in SW Missouri.

GR

The local dealer had one that I handled today.
I am not an XD expert by any means, but I did not like the grip.
It felt too big, and slippery to me, and I have big hands.
I do not have any polymer handguns, and I am spoiled by the grips on my 1911's.

I generally like to really get my hands around the grip on a handgun.
The narrow grip of a 1911, along with the checkering, feels very secure to me.
Also, I'll bet that 14 rounds of .45 will entail some weight to carry.
Maybe I'll give the Ruger P345 another look. I am looking for a pistol with a light rail.

Jamie

I am sure not having any luck finding one here in SW Missouri.

GR

Are you in the Springfield area, GR?

http://www.hs2000talk.com/viewtopic.php?p=294167#294167

Photos courtesy of Mr. Bronce Smith of Bonne Terre, MO.

Being from the "Show Me State", Bronce thought folks would want to see that the frame difference of the new 45ACP is very minor compared to the existing 9mm, 40SW, and .357SIG.

The perfect polymer 45ACP pistol? Perhaps.

http://pistol-gear.com/Frame%20Length.jpg

http://pistol-gear.com/Frame%20Width.jpg

I will have to compare it to my Taurus PT-145 to see if there is enough difference to justify buying the XD. My PT-145 is going to be a hard gun to beat. But I like the picture showing all the accessories that come with the XD.

.45 is good. Mongo like 45.

10mm isn't longer than .45ACP, it was designed to fit the same magwells. Is the 21 grip wider than the 20 grip, wider than it needs to be? cuz the glock 20 came before.


Actually the 10mm is longer than the .45 by .0125

One has to wonder if SA will move their other calibers to this platform. It would seem to be a good idea to me, as they could then up capacities to perhaps 15 or so in 40/357 and 17 or 18 in 9mm. Glock would lose its one remaining advantage in my book. Of course a better finish would be good too on the blued guns. I suppose tennifer is a second Glock advantage.

I am still looking for a 45 XD. I hope they get more out there soon. Had to sit on my hands while the blued one was on Gunbroker as I really want a bi-tone.

GR

Ready? Hell, I bought one on 12-31-05. I like it so far. Put over 250 rds of various types thru it so far. Got a feeling all my other 45's might be safe queens now.


Fits in all the holsters I have my other XD's. Grip is just slightly longer than the service 9mm and the barrel is also just slightly longer. I like the fact I won't have to wait for someone to come out with a holster for it. As far as capacity 13+1 is nice.

...Got a feeling all my other 45's might be safe queens now.
Just curious, what are your other 45's? I'm interested in what you like about this one specifically more than the others. Thanks.

I'm going to check one out when I find one.

[QUOTE=MyRoad]Just curious, what are your other 45's? I'm interested in what you like about this one specifically more than the others. Thanks.[/QUOTE


Para LDA's, SA Govt 1911, S&W 4506, and a good ole Hi Point 45.

The SA XD fits my hand better, thus feels better, and I like the trigger.

I feel my detestation of plastic guns weakening. A lot.

Ready? Hell, I bought one on 12-31-05. I like it so far. Put over 250 rds of various types thru it so far. Got a feeling all my other 45's might be safe queens now.


Fits in all the holsters I have my other XD's. Grip is just slightly longer than the service 9mm and the barrel is also just slightly longer. I like the fact I won't have to wait for someone to come out with a holster for it. As far as capacity 13+1 is nice.

The barrel on the XD-.45ACP is actually listed as .01 shorter than the XD-9

The barrel on the XD-.45ACP is actually listed as .01 shorter than the XD-9

Actually... it's the slide length that is slightly longer.

Sorry, my fault. I held them side by side and the 45 is longer, just thought it was due to barrel length. I didn't read the spec sheet, I have been too busy grinning.

Got to have it! I will wait awile for the price to fall, like Ruger's Alaska.

Got to have it! I will wait awile for the price to fall, like Ruger's Alaska.

Same here. Once we see them at most of the major distributors, the cost should level out somewhat.

Alright, that's it. I will be seriously checking out the XD. I had always played with the idea of a .40 in another poly, but I personally couldn't be swayed to add this caliber to have to stock over the .45. I am very curious about it.

Tell me, what criticisms do people have of the SA XD line? How well are they built? Any problems or tweaks people are doing?

I'm new at the XD's but I loved it when I fired my pal's XD-9. DO the new XD's finish compare to Glock's tenifer finish? Thanks.

i have had mine for 6 months, put 2000rds through it, carry it almost everyday, and have little wear on the pistol, there is some on the grip safety and the slide release and that is it! If you really wanted you could get it dura coated, but I have had no issues with my finish. You know why glock only has frames made in the US and not the slide? To get the tenifer coat it has to go through a process that the EPA will not allow companies here to perform, because of the chemicals used. I learned that the other day and thought it would be nice to pass along!

Click on my signature fellas...All of your questions will be answered. ;)

DO the new XD's finish compare to Glock's tenifer finish? Thanks.

No, it's the same finish. The finish is the only remaining weakspot on this firearm IMHO. That won't stop me from buying one, as I had an XD 9mm for over a year that saw daily carry and regular use, never rusted one bit. I did get some brownie crammed into one of the front slide serrations though, but CLP cleaned that right up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/shadow_dog/IMG_1279.jpg

Does anyone have experience with XD 45ACP JHP +P in the service 4" ? Can teh XD 45ACP handle a regular diet of 45acp jhp +P loads without problems?

Why? a)Because it increases the muzzel velosity thereby increases the projectile performance.

b) And becasue full size Glocks can consume 45ACP JHP+P rounds all life long without any problems.

I am hoping that XDs can do so as well!

Thank you! Windplex

I'm new at the XD's but I loved it when I fired my pal's XD-9. DO the new XD's finish compare to Glock's tenifer finish? Thanks.

According to Springfield Armory, the finish is Melonite, which I learned from research is just another trade name for tennifer, so it is comparable to the Glock finish.

No, it's the same finish. The finish is the only remaining weakspot on this firearm IMHO. That won't stop me from buying one, as I had an XD 9mm for over a year that saw daily carry and regular use, never rusted one bit. I did get some brownie crammed into one of the front slide serrations though, but CLP cleaned that right up.

Update:

Forgot to post the correction here, but according to SA, as toocool stated, they are coming with the Melonite treatment (the .45ACp's only). At the time I posted that answer, it was not know that this would be the case (SA never advertised it, the exterior finish is prety much the same so there is no real visible difference AFAIK).

Anybody able to post side-by-side comparison pics of the XD45 and Glock 30? I'm just curious about the relative size difference. Thanks a bunch!