Cars have mufflers. So should rifles.


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Oleg Volk
December 15, 2005, 11:59 PM
http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/albums/arms/rem600_UY9O8971.sized.jpg

Kit with a very neat Remington 600 and an AAC can...someday, I'll have a rifle like that. Unlike 700PSS, it's not too heavy, and the can keeps the muzzle down on recoil.

Anyway, the image could be used to promote peace and quiet.

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Lupinus
December 16, 2005, 12:00 AM
very cool

GregGry
December 16, 2005, 12:02 AM
Missing the S in cars, but other then that its cool :D

Crosshair
December 16, 2005, 12:14 AM
Anyone know of a dealer in North Dakota who can transfer me a suppressor. Closest person I can find is in South Dakota. I had to miss the suppressor buy because I could not find an in-state dealer.:(

/PS, nice poster Oleg.

Oleg Volk
December 16, 2005, 12:57 AM
Fixed the missing "S", thanks!

And a bonus image:

http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/albums/arms/farm_UY9O8955.sized.jpg

Rem700SD
December 16, 2005, 01:06 AM
Contact the people at Small Arms Review, They publish a class 3 directory every so often, and should know of one.

BTW, every rifle I own (3) has a can on it. Whether it's a .308, .223, or even a .300 Win Mag, they are all much more comfortable to shoot with a suppressor. A Rem700PSS in .308 isn't THAT heavy with a muzzle can; I had my barrel shortened, so the OAL is the same with the can as the original rifle, Every one I've ever had shoot it has been favorably impressed with it's handling, although it's still a bit front heavy.

mbs357
December 16, 2005, 01:12 AM
The problem with this is that most people think supressors actually silence guns down to a whisper...and it's usually hard to deprogram someone from TV knowledge.

Nematocyst
December 16, 2005, 01:15 AM
Oleg, I just noticed that you're in Nash'town.

I grew up in Me'omphis. Spent some time in Nashville then. My dad was from Winchester.

Love them mid-TN hills & rivers.

Nem

Rexrider
December 16, 2005, 01:29 AM
I very much like the first one. Simple and to the point. Great picture too.

Second one is tough to explain. Picture is too harsh and cold (especially compaired to the first one). The caption makes it sound like all we need to do is slap a can on to be a good neighbor. But we all know it is not that simple or even possible in some areas. Which is the underlying point of the first poster.

P.S. I don't mean to be a critic. I always enjoy seeing your work and your ability to convey very important messages. Thanks.

Standing Wolf
December 16, 2005, 02:24 AM
Fun type face in the first image.

I think we have a right to add sound suppressors to our firearms; I flatly refuse, however, to go near the idea of being required by government to use them.

Nematocyst
December 16, 2005, 03:04 AM
I very much like the first one. Simple and to the point. Great picture too. Not to mention the {can I refer to this on THR?} the slightly suggestive sexual innuendo.

Second one is tough to explain. Picture is too harsh and cold (especially compaired to the first one). Hmm. As long as a woman holding a gun is smiling, it's comfortable. When she's not, it's "too harsh and cold".

I suggest some therapy with a Freudian or Jungian counselor to explore male insecurities.

P.S. I don't mean to be a critic. I always enjoy seeing your work and your ability to convey very important messages. Thanks. We agree there.
______

I think we have a right to add sound suppressors to our firearms; I flatly refuse, however, to go near the idea of being required by government to use them. SW, I don't think that either image implies or suggest "government" <sucking sound> requirement.

Nem

twoblink
December 16, 2005, 03:44 AM
You are all liking the picture because Kit's in it :neener:

The muzzle flash from my M1A was just horrid..

I have no idea why a "muffler" would be illegal in some states.. I think they confuse it with a silencer..

I have a lot of friends in Taiwan, who think that with a "muffler" in front, nobody can hear you shoot a gun! err... right...:rolleyes:

So I think you have to thank Hollyweird for the dis-service.. I like the pic, because Kit looks tough without looking intimidating..

cz75bdneos22
December 16, 2005, 03:51 AM
cool pics:rolleyes: , i've never shot one with a "muffler"...:eek:

Rexrider
December 16, 2005, 04:24 AM
Not to mention the {can I refer to this on THR?} the slightly suggestive sexual innuendo.

Hmm. As long as a woman holding a gun is smiling, it's comfortable. When she's not, it's "too harsh and cold".

I suggest some therapy with a Freudian or Jungian counselor to explore male insecurities.

Excuse me?
Remove the rifle from both pictures along with any "innuendos". The first picture she looks natural. The second picture she looks like a cardboard cutout. Simple as that. Nothing Freudian about it.

Nematocyst
December 16, 2005, 04:34 AM
Excuse me?
Remove the rifle from both pictures along with any "innuendos". The first picture she looks natural. The second picture she looks like a cardboard cutout. Simple as that. Nothing Freudian about it. No, excuse me. <said sarcastically>

You missed the point entirely.

You CAN'T remove the rifle. It's part of the art.

One cannot remove the smile from the Mona Lisa.

One cannot remove the rifle from Oleg's latest.

Now, leave the freaking rifle where it is, and re-examine the images.

If you still don't get it, then we have little to nothing to discuss.

Rexrider
December 16, 2005, 04:56 AM
<sigh>

Nematocyst-870
Your right, I missed the point entirely.

I gave an opinion on the Oleg's posters. Based on my opinions of the posters you suggested "some therapy with a Freudian or Jungian counselor to explore male insecurities".

I have no idea how we got to me going to therapy for replying with an opinion on the posters.

I am now bowing out of this thread. You are welcome to the last word.

Oleg, my applogies for this thread getting off topic. Like I said, I enjoy your work and was just providing my first impressions of the photography.

Cheers

Oleg Volk
December 16, 2005, 08:19 AM
Suggestions, negative reactions are always welcome, along with any attaboys. No need to get upset with each other (can use "ignore" option, too).

Henry Bowman
December 16, 2005, 10:24 AM
Anyway, the image could be used to promote peace and quiet.Peace through superior firepower, that is.:D


Actually the first one could be a Christmas (or holiday) card that simply says "Peace on Earth" on the front. Too subtle?

Nematocyst
December 16, 2005, 11:08 AM
I am now bowing out of this thread. You are welcome to the last word. Rexrider, please don't bow out of the thread. It's me that should do that. (But I won't; I'll stay and moderate my tone.)

You didn't deserve my harsh words or interpretation of your opinion. Please accept my apology. Oleg is right: we can discuss his art without throwing barbs.

Here's the reason for my outburst. (Not an excuse, but it IS a reason.) I'm under a HUGE amount of stress right now. <sad violins playing in the background> I moved into my new studio over a month ago BEFORE the construction work was finished. All of my belongings are in boxes, now under saw dust, insulation dust & (as of yesterday) sheet rock dust. I've moved everything I own at least 5 times in the studio to get things out of the way of various workers, so everything is in utter chaos. To make matters worse, there's no heat in here (getting the heating contractor here has been like pulling teeth) and it's 28 degrees outside (not much warmer in here; my computer is my main source of heat.

Exacerbating that, there was a memorial service in a nearby city last night (that I was unable to attend to vent my grief) for a close friend who has been lost in the wilderness of Hawaii for over a month and is now presumed dead.

All that just built up on this thread last night. I sort of snapped.

Again, my apologies to you, Oleg & others for my words & tone.

I will say that, IMO, it is possible that some men could be affected in the way that I suggested. I will not assert that is the case for you because I don't know you, and it was wrong for me to suggest it. Art evokes different feelings in different people. I am no different.

Now, I've had 4 hours of sleep. The thermometer in my studio reads degrees. I've got to go hang more drywall.

Best regards,

Nem

PS: I've sent this to Rexrider via PM.

Blair
December 16, 2005, 01:05 PM
Good stuff as always Oleg!

That's one of the peculiarities in American law v European law. In Europe it's considered polite to use supressors when shooting (although the rest of our gun laws are draconian to the extremes) whereas in the US, you need to fill out all that paperwork and pay the tax stamp.

dasmi
December 16, 2005, 01:07 PM
There's a rifle in there?

middy
December 16, 2005, 02:35 PM
You are all liking the picture because Kit's in it :neener:
Guilty :o

Detritus
December 16, 2005, 03:09 PM
You are all liking the picture because Kit's in it

NOO.... it contains Kit AND a Rem. 600.... (first centerfire rifle i ever fired was my father's 600, i have a soft spot for them)

f4t9r
December 16, 2005, 03:26 PM
Once again I like it

Rexrider
December 16, 2005, 03:59 PM
Nematocyst-870
Apology accepted. I am also sorry for your loss and situation.

I was not angry or upset (hey, this is the internet, can't be thined skined here), just somewhat confused by your reaction and that it was becoming personal. I did not want us getting into a volley in the middle of Oleg's thread (which was already happening) so I thought it was best for me to remove myself from it. Not to mention the irony of Oleg having to lock his own thread if it got ugly. :D

No harm done and we move on.

Cheers

hso
December 16, 2005, 04:05 PM
From Finland

Carl N. Brown
December 16, 2005, 04:08 PM
I am going to visit a Finnish shooters site,
where the governmwnt encourages supressors
(mufflers, silencers, whatever you wannna call 'em)
because they save peoples hearing.

nipprdog
December 16, 2005, 09:19 PM
I am going to visit a Finnish shooters site
be sure to check out the test for a finnish hunting license.

if you can't get a good shot at a moving elk/moose at 100yds, you fail.

they're serious.:D

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