El Cheapo spray on Case Lube


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bogie
December 20, 2005, 06:16 PM
Hit the kitchen, and grab the...

Pam.

Use the butter flavored kind. The friction makes it smell good.

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ocabj
December 20, 2005, 06:50 PM
I still prefer Imperial die wax.

Matthew748
December 20, 2005, 07:17 PM
I have heard about using Pam but never tried it. Maybe I'll give it a shot next time.

308win
December 20, 2005, 07:43 PM
Do you know anyone who has actually used Pam?

bogie
December 20, 2005, 09:55 PM
Me.

And I use Imperial die wax on my benchrest rounds.

If you use pam, you pretty much gotta tumble the stuff, but if you're gonna do it anyway, well...

Haycreek
December 21, 2005, 11:21 AM
Pam :confused: Anyone tried Mobil 1 ? :)

NVMM
December 21, 2005, 12:58 PM
How do you get it off after loading?

Grump
December 21, 2005, 01:04 PM
I'd not try Mobil 1. I tried applying Break*Free with my fingers many years ago when sizing .223s and had not only my first ripped off extractor rim, but my first die ruined in the course of trying to remove the stuck case.

I was wanting less gummy friction than the traditional RCBS roll-on-the-stamppad stuff I has used up to that time, and was tickled pink with how slick the Break*Free was working... Because both the stuff I used and Mobil 1 are synthetic lubes, I would expect them to have similar film strengths under pressure.

I believe that part of the problem is that if you get a bare spot on the CASE, the thinner lube is less likely to forgive you that error with a nice residual film inside the DIE from the last case sized.

bakert
December 21, 2005, 04:12 PM
Does't Richard Lee mention using spray furniture polish in his book Modern Reloading?:confused:

pasquot
December 22, 2005, 11:11 AM
check out www.frfrogspad.com/homemade.htm

xring44
December 22, 2005, 11:18 AM
I tryed the pam once.....it went on too thick, hydraulic dents every time, stuck case about the 5th..no more pam for me...I leave it in the kitchen, the rcbs case lube in the loading room:)

Bronson7
December 22, 2005, 11:38 AM
Never tried it myself, but I've read of folks using silicone spray (a very light coat) then allow it to dry. Supposedly works well with no post clean-up.
Bronson7

USSR
December 22, 2005, 12:03 PM
As bogie said, Imperial die wax.

Don

Fumbler
December 22, 2005, 01:44 PM
I use PAM as a release agent when bedding actions.

Grump
December 22, 2005, 07:13 PM
BTW, I'm exclusively with Dillon's sheep-oil (lanolin) in alcohol spray lube. Quite happy with it. Usually use a towel and generous spray of carb or brake cleaner to take it off. Goes quick enough, and no flash fire danger 'cause there's no gas water in the shop and I don't smoke.

I think it costs 8 bucks or so a the local gunshop, and the amount of lube in that bottle *could* be about twice the net contents of an aerosol can, 'cause the solvent is probably a smaller part of the volume than the propellant in a can of Pam.

Might try it sometime...but it would be Wal*Mart's generic Canola Oil stuff. Pretty buttery smell is not that important to me.:cool:

Dale W
December 22, 2005, 10:18 PM
Just out of curiosity, isnt the ideal sizing lube one that has excellent lubricity and is the least viscous so it will coat the case uniformly?

Years ago I saw an interesting test bench that was about three feet long and two feet wide made of polished aluminum with a pivot at one end.

This bench was used to test the lubricity of lubricants. They applied a given amount of lubricant to a 3x3 absorbent pad; then they would place a 2x2x2 polished steel block on top of the pad for something like five seconds. The steel block was then placed at the very end of the aluminum plate opposite the pivot. The plate would be slowly raised with a screw apparatus while they watched a height meter. They would record the height when the block started to slide and then slide to the bottom of the aluminum plate.

They almost always found that the most heavily advertised and touted lubricants werent the best.

Moral to the story: Competitive dies are expensive. Testing is cheap.

ulflyer
December 23, 2005, 07:49 AM
If you want to mix your own, get a bottle of RCBS case oil that is made for pads. It comes in tiny bottles..maybe couple oz or less. Mix it to suit with 99% alcohol. Makes about a quart, depending on how much lube you want on your cases. Will have to experiment on some cases and go by feel. You can pick up spray bottles at Walmarts that produce a mist. I mix mine really light for my 45acp, and don't clean them after loading. It makes the sizing smoother. I have some Dillon and can't tell the diff.

therealsteamer
December 23, 2005, 08:16 AM
My grandfather-in-law has told me to use Pam, he has supposedly used it for decades. Personally I use CRC Industrial Food Grade multi-purpose silicone lubricant. Sprays very fine. Dries to darn near nothing, but leaves the case slick as heck. To me it seems to be better than a good dose of One Shot.
Steamer

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