RIA 1911 for $279 is a heck of a bargain!


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Snowdog
December 24, 2005, 07:15 AM
I received my Rock Island 1911 yesterday morning from my local friendly pawn shop ($10 fee for use of his FFL, regardless of item or price) and stripped it down to give it a good look over. I will say that it's not quite the looker that my Kimber Classic has become, but it definately proved itself a solid specimen.

I took it and the Kimber to a buddy's house (lucky dog's fortunate enough to have several acres of land and neighbors who shoot) to run a few rounds of plated 200gr SWCs shipped in from Georgia Arms through each.

Here's what I found:

The RIA 1911 shoots every bit as tight a group as my Kimber despite having a slightly heavier trigger.

Though I only had time to put one "bag" of fifty G-A SWCs through each 1911, the Kimber hung up twice with failures to feed while the RIA fed without a hitch.

I did notice however that the Kimber was generally more "pleasant" to shoot. Though the recoil from relatively mild load was nothing even approaching uncomfortable, I did notice the recoil was perceivably milder with the Kimber.
I'm going to assume the recoil spring in the RIA is a bit lighter than the Kimber (both stock) which should be a relatively easy fix. I also plan to replace the rather chunky wood grips on the RIA.

I still need to run a few more rounds through this pistol, but so far I'm quite impressed with this pistol (and did I mention it cost me all of $279? NIB :D )!

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Bill B.
December 24, 2005, 07:34 AM
I know the owner of a gunshop who also really brags on this 1911. I have seen some groups he shot at 25 yards that I found at first unbelivable. From comments I have heard other's make about the Rock Island apparently I was wrong. He has also used one of these pistols for platform for a custom 1911. He had a lot of mod's done but the one telling thing he mentioned was that they used the barrel that came with the Rock Island. they did not feel it could be improved on! :scrutiny:

bigmike45
December 24, 2005, 08:34 AM
A good friend of mine who is an officer in the Drug Intradiction Force here in Texas has used an RIA for over 2 years now. During his annual qualifications on the gun range he was ridiculed by some of the other officers who either carried Springers or Kimbers, but by the end of the qualifications they has all changed their tune. Keep in mind this fellow comes from a well to do family and could literally have any 1911 on the market. Money is not an object here.

The gun is a real looker. Has one of the nicest and smoothest finish I have seen. I think he told me he paid $299.00 new and all he has done is changed grips and added a beavertail grip safety and bobbed the hammer.

Mad Magyar
December 24, 2005, 08:52 AM
You know Snowdog, there are only a few of us that gives a "rats-behind" about your good fortune. You know why so few? Many have paid anywhere
from 6 to 1,500 dollars for theirs and they don't want to see, hear, or read about any pistol for under $300 shooting even comparably to a Kimber..They rather gush over their pistol that can be found on a nice color spread photo in these propaganda magazines. You mentioned the "Holy Grail" of pistols...Comparing a RIA to a Kimber? What blasphemy!:fire: The Kimber misfired and the RIA did not? How can a RIA where conjured images of half-starved, sweaty Phiipinos produce a pistol of this quality?:(
You see Snowdog, my prime directive is to scour pawnshops, gunstores, Gun Shows, newspaper ads looking for $2-300 pistols..When I find them, everyone thumbs their noses at the Llamas, Daewoos, Chas Daly, RIA, etc..regardless on how well they fire. After reading so many posts, I am convinced that the reason why there is an absence of pic's is not because they don't have a digital camera: they don't have "jack-crap"! :banghead: Pure fantasy..:mad:
P.S. How about a pic?;)

Snowdog
December 25, 2005, 02:57 AM
LOL, amusing post, Mad Magyar. :D I was considering posting an pic of the RIA next to the Kimber (Classic Custom, series 1 with EABCO electroless nickel finish, a real looker). I will say that though the RIA may not be as "fancy" as the Kimber, I did find the parkerized finish respectable. I think a nice set of walnut or cocobolo grips, slightly heavier recoil spring and a beavertail grip safety might be all it needs and all it'll ever get.

I still love the Kimber, but I think I'll put the miles on the RIA and allow the Kimber to reign supreme in the safe.

Mad Magyar
December 25, 2005, 08:48 AM
Enjoy your pistols Snowdog...BTW, speaking of cocobolo grips, if you see any with the curved fingers: let me know. Looking to put some on a recent bargain, such as yours, in the near future. Forgot to mention that Georgia Arms is quality ammo with a good price..:)

wally
December 25, 2005, 09:04 AM
I'd bet that most of the percieved recoil differences is the RIA GI grip safety vs. the Kimber's very nice beavertail.

I was very impressed with the trigger on my RIA and the way it shoots out of the box. I've a J-Point red dot optic on mine and shoot the crap out of it on the steel plate rack. The link on mine broke after ~3500 rounds, over 1000 rounds on the replacement link so far without any other issues. I've already spent a lot more on ammo thru the gun than I did on the gun (not counting the J-Point and its mount that was was darn near as expensive as the RIA!)

I think Armscor is making a very good 1911 for the money.

--wally.

Old Fuff
December 25, 2005, 10:24 AM
The true worth of a pistol (or for that matter, any firearm) is not determined by its purchase price, but rather by how well it works, how dependable it is, and for how long it stays that way.

In the lower priced lines, some folks are going to get guns that go like gangbusters, and when they do they will brag endlessly about them. Others will be posting threads desperately asking Tuner for help. The same could be said about some of the more costly examples. I find RIA guns to be like Norinco’s – which is to say that quality is usually good but sometimes inconsistent. Unfortunately the same can be said about some of the more popular (and expensive) makes on the market. In other words it’s a crap shoot, but we seem to be hearing from the winners today.

Which proves that there are winners... :D

Jeff Timm
December 25, 2005, 10:39 AM
At least one source:

http://www.sarcoinc.com/rockislands.html

Geoff
Who has enough .45s for now. :rolleyes:

f4t9r
December 25, 2005, 10:47 AM
The true worth of a pistol (or for that matter, any firearm) is not determined by its purchase price, but rather by how well it works, how dependable it is, and for how long it stays that way.

In the lower priced lines, some folks are going to get guns that go like gangbusters, and when they do they will brag endlessly about them. Others will be posting threads desperately asking Tuner for help. The same could be said about some of the more costly examples. I find RIA guns to be like Norinco’s – which is to say that quality is usually good but sometimes inconsistent. Unfortunately the same can be said about some of the more popular (and expensive) makes on the market. In other words it’s a crap shoot, but we seem to be hearing from the winners today.

Which proves that there are winners... :D

words of wisdom

3006mv
December 26, 2005, 12:14 PM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/3006mv/PA280005.jpg Here's mine, over 3k rounds through no problems, takes all mags and ammo, mostly reloads.

bigcozy
December 26, 2005, 02:15 PM
Are these cast?

VWTim
December 26, 2005, 02:42 PM
Are these cast?


Sure are, just like every BHP in the last 15? years.

Texfire
December 26, 2005, 03:07 PM
Well put me in the winner column with my RIA 1911. I paid just over $300 for mine and had a gunsmith "drop in" an ambi safety. I changed the grips to a slimmer set of rosewood double diamond style grips. That's it. And I love it. The only gun I have that I love more is my FN Hi-Power I got from CDDN.

Tex

Navy87Guy
December 26, 2005, 03:11 PM
Damn you all! I thought I was over this...and now you have me thinking about a 1911!!

The RIA looks nice...and I'm all about a nice shooting pistol. I noticed that the Sarco site includes an RIA double-stack (14-rds). Has anyone tried that?

It's a good thing I was very nice to my wife for Christmas...she might kill me over this one!

Jim

trickyasafox
December 27, 2005, 01:42 AM
how are the stock sights on the RIA's? and are they hard to change out to something else?

jeepmor
December 27, 2005, 02:50 AM
The more I read these boards, the more I find that some of the bargain basement guns are worthy after all. I've read some good first hand reviews of high points and now rock island.

I'm especially tickled with the cheapie (no offense) gun running better than the high dollar Kimber. What is it with these expensive products not offering the reliability that you should get for paying the extra money? Guess that nice finish cost 3x as much to produce. Or, like so many retail items, how much of your purchase price is paying marketing instead to enhance the image?

I can name several high end products that are "high" end due to marketing and sales pitches, not product performance.....Bose, IPOD, any german wundercar, and a plethora of snowboarding products, as well as nearly all of the Midwest mega beers that claim to rule the roost. All stuff I've actually had my hands on, so don't start a flame war over this, please, just sharing my opinion, nothing more.

I like products that speak for themselves, not the other way around. How about the rest of you? So what does the Kimber jammin twice in only 50 rounds and the RIA not say to me....VOLUMES!!!

Ooh, a 1911 in my price range, cool, maybe I'll snap one up. I want value in my purchases, not clever marketing gimmicks. Although, I have to admit, I've purchased some high dollar items that DO live up to their hype, just not that many. I like products that sell themselves, reliability sells me products, not marketing gurus.



jeepmor

boofus
December 27, 2005, 09:20 AM
how are the stock sights on the RIA's? and are they hard to change out to something else?

The sights are terrible. They are low profile just like the old WW2 USGI.

At $279 these guns are a bargain if you get one that works. I got one from SOG and put some McCormick rosewood grips on it and it looked really nice. Too bad it jammed 2-3 every mag. My friend's Rock Island worked perfectly though.

1911 guy
December 27, 2005, 09:44 AM
I think I read recently that Armscor has upgraded their manufacturing in the last year or so and is cranking out some good 'uns lately. I may have to add another Philipino Beer Can to the safe. :D

USBP379
December 27, 2005, 10:23 AM
Rumor has it that Armscor will be introducing an American-made pistol at the SHOT show. I have also heard that Armscor is going to be offering some semi-custom pistols from a shop in Nevada.

Who's going to SHOT? If you are, see if you can find out more!

Kramer Krazy
December 27, 2005, 01:35 PM
I picked up a RIA and paid $308 OTD from a local dealer (Missashot picked one up, too). Hers is stock, except for some purple grips that she installed, and since I plan on shooting mine until it breaks, I've slapped some Hogue wrap-around rubber grips, Wilson Combat drop-in beavertail and combat hammer, and painted the stock sites. After about 500 rounds, I haven't had a single failure and the gun shoots as well (if not better) than my Colts. It's a pleasure to shoot, and I'm not concerned about wearing the finish, scratching it, or breaking it in any way (two of my three Colts have sentimental value). I bought the RIA to be a shooter, and shooting it is what I am doing. I'm glad I got a "beater" gun that is reliable and shoots some nice groups. I'd almost be tempted to pick up another one. :eek:

Moonclip
December 27, 2005, 05:10 PM
Mine has been fine, though it gives me hammer bite though that is easily fixed. Part of the reason besides the money why I have not gotten guns like a Les Baer or a high end Kimber is I can't see myself spending so much when I have had guns costing half or a third less that were the same or just a little less accurate.

For example, though I admit it jammed a lot, I once had a Chinese Tokarev that was just about as accurate as my Sig Sauer P225.

Navy87Guy
December 27, 2005, 05:31 PM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/3006mv/PA280005.jpg Here's mine, over 3k rounds through no problems, takes all mags and ammo, mostly reloads.

3006mv -

What mods have you done to the gun - sights, beavertail? Anything else?

Thanks!

Jim

Seven High
December 27, 2005, 07:12 PM
I read somewhere that all parts interchange with u.s. made parts. Has anyone checked to see if they all really do interchange?

Crosshair
December 27, 2005, 08:06 PM
I need to get all my gun layaways paid up and then I can see about getting one of these. Nice to hear all the good imput on these 1911s.

carolinaman
December 28, 2005, 05:56 AM
Hi there,

First, congradulations on your new pistol!

I have heard a lot of good things about RIA's and had a neighbor who recently purchased one. It is a great shooter and I believe that it will hold its own against another good, but banned from importation pistol, the Norinco.

If it shoots good, who care's whose name is roll marked on the slide!

Chris

Kramer Krazy
December 28, 2005, 09:47 AM
3006mv -

What mods have you done to the gun - sights, beavertail? Anything else?

Thanks!

Jim

According to the picture, I see the sights, beavertail safety, slide catch, safety, hammer, mag well, magazine catch, and checkering on the front of the grip strap. Did I miss anything or get anything wrong?

joey93turbo
December 28, 2005, 10:12 AM
What's the actual model number for these? Where can I find a couple in NW Oregon? Where are they selling for $279?

georgeduz
December 28, 2005, 10:26 AM
where are these 1911s made

boofus
December 28, 2005, 11:01 AM
www.southernohiogun.com had a run of them for $279 with free shipping for a while. I don't know if they are still doing that offer or not. Rock Island makes a government model sized gun or a commander sized I think.

The big one is just called Rock Island Armory government model 1911

Kramer Krazy
December 28, 2005, 11:03 AM
www.southernohiogun.com had a run of them for $279 with free shipping for a while.
If I remember correctly, Sarco is running a sale on them (1911A1) in the newest Shotgun News for $279 each, but drop the price to $265 if you purchase three of them.

joey93turbo
December 28, 2005, 07:35 PM
Awesome. Anyone know of a place in Oregon that sells these?

Navy87Guy
December 30, 2005, 10:27 AM
Well, I broke down and ordered my RIA from Gun Broker. It was $310 delivered. I talked to my local FFL, who has had some bad experiences ordering from Sarco. He recommended against it, so for the small extra charge I took his advice. Once all the paper-swapping takes place, it should be here next week!!

Jim

Moonclip
December 30, 2005, 04:15 PM
where are these 1911s made
They are made in the Philippines. Don't let that not want to buy one thogh as they generally get positive reviews and the Philippines has a long history of using and appreciating the 1911 design.

After all, even the communist Chinese managed to make a decent 1911 clone!

osteodoc08
December 30, 2005, 04:39 PM
Just got back from the range after putting another 50 rounds through my RIA Compact. I sure love that little pistol, but still doesn't stop me from dreaming of a SA Loaded SS Fullsize, though.

horge
December 30, 2005, 06:33 PM
They are made in the Philippines. Don't let that not want to buy one thogh as they generally get positive reviews and the Philippines has a long history of using and appreciating the 1911 design.



New slogan for 1911's:

Designed for Filipinos. Made by Filipinos
;)

gunfan
December 30, 2005, 06:46 PM
I received my Rock Island 1911 yesterday morning from my local friendly pawn shop ($10 fee for use of his FFL, regardless of item or price) and stripped it down to give it a good look over. I will say that it's not quite the looker that my Kimber Classic has become, but it definately proved itself a solid specimen.

I took it and the Kimber to a buddy's house (lucky dog's fortunate enough to have several acres of land and neighbors who shoot) to run a few rounds of plated 200gr SWCs shipped in from Georgia Arms through each.

Here's what I found:

The RIA 1911 shoots every bit as tight a group as my Kimber despite having a slightly heavier trigger.

Though I only had time to put one "bag" of fifty G-A SWCs through each 1911, the Kimber hung up twice with failures to feed while the RIA fed without a hitch.

I did notice however that the Kimber was generally more "pleasant" to shoot. Though the recoil from relatively mild load was nothing even approaching uncomfortable, I did notice the recoil was perceivably milder with the Kimber.
I'm going to assume the recoil spring in the RIA is a bit lighter than the Kimber (both stock) which should be a relatively easy fix. I also plan to replace the rather chunky wood grips on the RIA.

I still need to run a few more rounds through this pistol, but so far I'm quite impressed with this pistol (and did I mention it cost me all of $279? NIB :D )!

I think that you did quite well. I hope that it lasts for many years and shoots as does the proverbial "house afire".

Scott

sgb
December 31, 2005, 09:52 AM
They are made in the Philippines. Don't let that not want to buy one thogh as they generally get positive reviews and the Philippines has a long history of using and appreciating the 1911 design.

After all, even the communist Chinese managed to make a decent 1911 clone!


The Norinco is a much better 1911 than the RIA even though made in china on a 1911 is just plain wrong.;)

I've handled and repaired several RIA and while they make ok plinkers I would never trust my life to one.

YMMV

carebear
December 31, 2005, 01:52 PM
New slogan for 1911's:

Designed for Filipinos. Made by Filipinos
;)

Comedy gold!

Truly subversive. :evil:

Dusty Rusty
December 31, 2005, 07:40 PM
After reading all these posts, I realize that I got a bargain on my RIA 1911. Paid $200.00 for a very slightly used one and it shoots like a dream! I can even shoot off hand with one hand and hit a good group. I didn't know much about RIA but you all have made me feel much better about my purchase.
Thanks!!!!

Helstrm
January 9, 2006, 10:15 AM
I also purchased one of these last week. We did a little work to it. First we did a ramp job and then cleaned up the trigger well. Replaced the springs with a set of Wolf 18.5# and got some cocobolo grips. Added a Wilson Combat extended slide release and a new trigger. Grouping was amazing. Maybe 1.5 inch at 20 yards and I destroyed the plate machine. 150 rounds without one malfunction. In fact it was the only Auto out there there had zero issues. I am waiting on a Wilson Full length guide rod now. But I doubt it can get any better. Best $300 I have ever spent.......

Texfire
January 9, 2006, 08:28 PM
Woe to me to rain on your parade, but after all that surely you spent a little more than $300 with parts. Still nice mods.

Tex

Helstrm
January 9, 2006, 10:13 PM
Well to be technical I spent about $400 or a few bucks over if I include the Wilson Combat guide rod that is on it's way. SO I recant... Best $400 - $425 that I have ever spent. :)

Navy87Guy
January 9, 2006, 11:57 PM
I also purchased one of these last week. We did a little work to it. First we did a ramp job and then cleaned up the trigger well. Replaced the springs with a set of Wolf 18.5# and got some cocobolo grips. Added a Wilson Combat extended slide release and a new trigger. Grouping was amazing. Maybe 1.5 inch at 20 yards and I destroyed the plate machine. 150 rounds without one malfunction. In fact it was the only Auto out there there had zero issues. I am waiting on a Wilson Full length guide rod now. But I doubt it can get any better. Best $300 I have ever spent.......

It looks like you put the Wilson Competition Match trigger in, too. How did you like it? Mine seems to have some exessive pull to it (not as nice as the factory was) and it feels like there's too much play between the trigger bow and the grooves (too much vertical movement).

Here's mine:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/889657/RIA-left-modified.JPG

I need to clean up the frame a little and do some polishing on the sear, disconnector and hammer. I like the look of my new trigger, but its performance wasn't what I had hoped for.

Jim

Helstrm
January 10, 2006, 12:12 AM
The trigger has too much travel feels great other than that. We lapped the trigger into the well and it is smooth but I just ordered a CHIP McCORMICK trigger that should be here this week. Hopefully that one will resolve the issue.

Helstrm
January 10, 2006, 12:16 AM
I am also going to add a commander hammer but I don't want a beavertail safety so after my CWP class Sat. (No more mods until after I qualify) We are going to put the grip safety on the mill and remove enough metal for the hammer to funtion. I just want to stop getting bit when I shoot her. Only twice in 150 rounds but it still hurts. :rolleyes:

rookie1911
May 1, 2008, 07:08 PM
I bought a RIA 1911(I will pick it up on the 6th) for $500. However, I just met someone at work that has the same one and he loves it. For being a non expensive gun, he says he likes it better than his other guns.

JeepGeek
July 10, 2008, 08:35 PM
Just bought one for $300, quite a nice weapon!

The Lone Haranguer
July 10, 2008, 10:12 PM
I suggest looking at the time stamp on the first post in this thread before looking for the $279 Rock. :uhoh:

JeepGeek
July 10, 2008, 10:14 PM
I paid $280, with $20 shipping.

killen
July 13, 2008, 11:06 AM
JeepGeek - where did you find that price? I can't seem to find them for less than a hundred dollars more than you paid...

Thanks!

Storm
July 13, 2008, 11:36 AM
I had a RIA Compact and found it to be an excellent gun. Had it been a full size I wouldn't have traded it towards my SW1911.

weisse52
July 13, 2008, 11:57 AM
Any of you guys still around from the 2005 posts?

Do you still own them? How are they functioning today?

This is enough time for a "long term" test, so lets hear what you have to say.


Thinking about buying one in 38 Super to convert to 9mm.

JeepGeek
July 13, 2008, 12:00 PM
Killen- got mine off gunbroker.com

I don't suppose you'd be happy if I told you I paid $450 for my last (lightly used) AR15, wouldja? :)

weisse52
July 14, 2008, 12:36 AM
BUMP!

OK, so am to take the lack of response to mean that in the long run the RIA's did not hold up?

gym
July 14, 2008, 12:59 AM
Usually you only hear about the one that worked, in a gunfight. At the range, I don't see the value of shooting a 2 thousand dollar handgun, unless you shoot competition. God forbid it gets taken away from you by an over eager leo, who sees that flashy piece, and decides to ruin your day.

psychophipps
July 14, 2008, 01:21 PM
I'm pretty sure that most, if not all, of the RIAs mentioned before are working just fine, weisse52. They might not have the same owners but I have seen quite a few posts with 5,000-10,000+ round counts with RIAs that are running just dandy w/o anything swapped but some springs.

You basically have two options in a NIB 1911. You can buy yourself a gucci go-faster semi-custom/custom gun for $1000+ (and the vast majority are $1500+) or you can spend $500 on a RIA Tactical and get maybe a 1% difference in performance for your average shooter.

You want a super-bling Ferarri gun or the old skool VW bug gun to take to the grocery store?

QwikKotaTx
July 14, 2008, 02:53 PM
I paid $300 for my Kimber as well. :D I waited until the absolute latest possible moment to buy it from my friend who was moving to China. All he needs over there is a plastic butter knife and I, being the kind soul that I am, offered to take it off his hands. He said he'd rather throw it in the trash than sell it to me that cheap but took my check nonetheless. I love her and will be using it to pass my CHL course in August. RIA looks very nice for the price, would love to check one out in person.
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i13/qwikkota/Kimber.jpg

chubbmann
July 14, 2008, 03:14 PM
I have a Rock Island 1911A1 .45 and love it. I don't like tennis shoes with plastic, I like my leather with out a bunch of pretty tooling, I like my coffee black, and I drive a Saturn for it's well engineered reliability. I may digress, but all I am saying that I like things simple, trust worthy, and maybe even a little plain. Aside from my gun shooting exceptionally well and opperating flawlessly, it is not all frilly with lots of unnessicary modifications to make it more hip. My gun is a man's gun and is not to be confused with anything made of plastic or sportinized. WHen I am ready to pay out the nose for something pretty I will look towards other brands. But till then I will be burning ammo through my RIA 45 with a special spot in my heart for those who shoot less accurate with thier more expensive pieces.

wditto
July 14, 2008, 06:33 PM
my .45 RIA Commander only has a couple thousand shots thru it, but it has had NO problems, none , zero - show me a Kimber that can say that - but it was $325......

Ceemack
July 14, 2008, 06:42 PM
Mine had some teething troubles in the first 400 rounds or so, but adjusting the spring tensions very slightly took care of that. Since then it's been 100% reliable. I've probably got 1500 rounds through mine.

The sights are terrible, so factor a set of replacements into your cost calculations. High-visibility sights run $70-$80 installed from King's Gun Works.

RonC133
July 14, 2008, 08:22 PM
I was down at the range recently. A shooter was practicing double taps with his Beretta M9 equivalent. Then he pulled out his Kimber. He indicated it was rather rare, that they had only made 1000 of that model, which I didn't catch which model.

So I asked him, what is the difference between my $300 Rock Island and his $1300 Kimber.

Without a pause, he replied "Bragging rights." I was afraid of that. The RIA has gone off every time the trigger was pulled and launched the bullet in the general direction of the target (I am not a competitor.) I am extremely happy with it and don't plan to upgrade until I figure out what the heck I would get out of the extra money. (I am not a connoisseur, either. I just like to shoot.)

I suspect the naysayers have never shot one or are put off by the parentage. Their loss is gain for the rest of us.

JeepGeek
July 14, 2008, 11:35 PM
don't know why they'd be put off by the parentage. The Phillipines had a little something to do with the birth of the weapon, after all.

I am a fan of RIA. Also Tanfoglio's Witness series, and the 24/7 and MilPro series from Taurus. Let's not forget the Keltec P11/P40s.

all are underdogs, and talked down to by gun snobs.

Yet every-damn-one of them goes Bang when I expect it, and click when I expect that. I also can put lead/copper on target out to at least 25 yards with all of them (the P11/40 on very good days, mind).

Put another way: for the $1300 of that one Kimber, I can have my 1911s, one each, in GI, tactical, and Commander flavor. And a little change to put on that Taurus PT92 I've been trying to talk myself out of, or another rifle. Or a lot of reloading components. Or let my friends come along and use them as I introduce new shooters to the sport.

Anyone who wants to talk crap about the weapons had better be willing to put his arse where his mouth is- downrange. (No, I'd certainly never shoot at them, nor would I violate a "cold" range- but I'm betting they would get the idea real quick that I'm not after bragging rights)..

.45&TKD
July 15, 2008, 12:02 AM
the Kimber hung up twice with failures to feed

Failure to feed or failure to extract?

I've found that most 1911 issues can be solved by properly tuning the extractor.

One of my Kimber's needed the extractor tuned when I bought it. I adjusted it before I even took to the range.

rdoggsilva
July 15, 2008, 02:07 AM
Man I am shocked, I thought only us Taurus pt1911 guys got attacked by gun snobs.

powwowell
July 15, 2008, 08:25 AM
I've had a RIA for less than two years. I haven't shot thousands of rounds through it, but I have shot it enough that I have 100% faith in it. Hollow points are no problem.

One day I'll get around to doing "a poor man's trigger job" on it. The stiff trigger, for a .45, is my only objection. I may even pick up a RIA tactical.

1911jock
July 15, 2008, 08:45 AM
I am opening my 5th 1k pack of ammo now. But I reload a bunch inbetween cases too. I would estimate 6k to 7k in the past 2 years or less. My officers has seen about 2k no problems from either. Ok well I did not clean my tactical for 3k once and the extractor started failing due to dirt build up....but thats my fault!

1911manforever
July 21, 2008, 03:29 AM
I just recently bought a RIA full size .45 1911 and couldn't be happier, though i havent shot many rounds through it i have not had one malfunction. I'm glad to hear that other owners have nothin but good things to say about them. I even took the pistol for my CCDW class and even the instructor liked it and wanted to shoot it. The gunsmith i bought the pistol from told me that the instructor, which is a friend of his, came in his shop talkin about it. Anyway I paid around $450 for the pistol, a 50 pack of shells, an extra clip, and a nylon holster which i think is a pretty good deal. I'm seriously considering buying the other 1911 that he had for sale.

Snowdog
July 21, 2008, 03:41 PM
Weisse52, since starting this thread back in '05, I've put a few thousand loads (all handloads, perhaps 40% 200gr SWC, 40% 230gr RNFP and 20% 230gr FMJ). The reliability of the RIA is outstanding!
The only item not stock are the walnut grips and I believe it will stay that way.

I believe my 1st series Kimber has an edge in overall accuracy as it's had gobs of custom work done and possesses a slightly better trigger. However, the difference is ever so slight and the RIA will reliably feed SWCs, something the Kimber choke on now and then.

Below are the two 1911s.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3135/2418325594_50ccc0ce7e_b.jpg

rondog
July 21, 2008, 08:10 PM
I have three RIA's, all great pistols. They look nice when they're blued too.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/DSCN1370-1.jpg

floydster
July 21, 2008, 08:15 PM
I wanted to get a 1911, but now I am so confused I think I will just give up shooting, period.
It seems there is NO truth in anything anymore.
Goodbye.

JeepGeek
July 21, 2008, 08:28 PM
drama much?

weisse52
July 21, 2008, 08:40 PM
Snowdog

THANKS! That is what I was wanting to hear!

senior
July 21, 2008, 08:50 PM
I picked up an RIA officer tactical, paid $499 for it and been very well pleased, right outta the box, cleaned up, oiled and 100 rds, no failures! Shoots to POA better than i am, took off the wood grips and put on some two piece rubber with finger groves and handles great! Wish i had a camera as the black rubber grips on the black gun looks very business like. Really glad now that i never got the $90.00 for 475 rds of 230 gr 45 i had offered awhile back! LOL

RonC133
July 25, 2008, 05:43 PM
1911manforever...

Yeah, I bought a second magazine for mine (and a third.) GI surplus at $8. they work just fine.

seeker_two
July 25, 2008, 06:08 PM
don't know why they'd be put off by the parentage. The Phillipines had a little something to do with the birth of the weapon, after all.
If anyplace would have an appreciation of a good 1911 and the .45-caliber round, it would be the Philippines....

I might have to check one of these RIA's out....esp. if they start offering 9mm's.....

Juna
July 25, 2008, 06:32 PM
Damn! You're all draining my wallet!

I've always had a longing for a full sized 1911, but they were out of my price range. If I could find one for some of the prices listed here that's reliable, my excuse for not getting one just went out the window! Now I'll be looking for an RIA! You're all costing my money!! ;P

1911manforever
July 26, 2008, 06:20 PM
To Juna

Have you tried lookin on the net? I typed in "rock island armory" and first thing i saw was a full size for about the price a got mine. Try http://personalsecurityzone.com/cgi-win/order/prodlist.exe/PSZ/?Template=ProdDetail.htm&ProductID=34544 that is the website for a nickel plated full size for $450. Wish i had seen it before i got mine. Try the net and see what you can come up with.

kansas45
July 26, 2008, 06:54 PM
Here is the RIA GI that I made into a Tactical. It sports Hogue Palm Swell Grips now, as do almost all of my 1911's.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/kansas45/LoadingBench006.jpg
And here is my Armscore family out at the farm.
My High Standard, the home made RIA Tactical, The real RIA factory Tactical & my RIA 38 Super with a few add-on's.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/kansas45/RIAFamily001.jpg

capttom
July 27, 2008, 08:55 PM
I'd never paid much attention to these, but a buddy and I were at the pasadena, Tx gun show this morning and an attractive young lady working at a table had several. I looked at a commander sized model and a compact, I guess officer's model. The price, NIB for either was $379. I was impressed with the workmanship. The only thing not to like were the sights. They seemed even smaller and finer than a regular gov't model. Oddly enough, the commander had a spur hammer and a very narrow grip safety. The officer's had a lanyard hammer and a decent abbreviated beavertail.
The commander tugged at my heart strings, but I was lusting after another piece.

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