[Freddie]

I was thinking on getting a Taurus Millenium Pro 45 ACP for my carry gun...Any pro's and con's on this?

[kirkcdl]

Freddie,I had a PT145 and I felt it was too wide for my grip.I have a good friend that carries his all the time,24/7.I sold my 145 and bought a PT745,which is the single stack version of this gun.The latest issue of Gun Tests(Jan 2006) compares it with a pair of $1000+ CCW pistols,and rates the PT745 as their choice of the three.Try both and buy the one which has the grip that works better for you,they're good guns.A lot of people call Taurus junk,and a few years ago I would have agreed,but Taurus seems to have turned the corner on quality.If you don't mind carrying a larger gun,also take a look at the 24/7 in 45,I own 2 of those.To give you an idea of my tastes in CCW guns,I also have a Para Ordnance Para Carry,a Kahr K40,and an HK USP compact for carry,the PT745 gets carried more often.All in all,only you can decide what works best for you.Good luck...

[Babalouie]

I carry a PT-140 Mil Pro exclusively. I love it and it has shot flawlessly with 180grn ammo. Doesn't like cheap 160 grn gunstore range crap ammo. I like the 10 round capacity but I would seriously consider the single stack .45 it I was to do it again. All in all I have been very happy with it. It conceals great and with a Tucker Texas Heritage it tucks in well and really just disappears.

[HighVelocity]

Freddie, try using the search function. There are a couple of threads about the PT 145.

[Smurfslayer]

Some have them and swear by them, some had nothing but trouble. I had trouble and never did get it worked out. It was never fully reliable. Ergos were good, accuracy was good for a small gun...

[MachIVshooter]

I bought one on the advise of other forum members. So far, it has been a spectacular little gun (especially considering the price; I paid $283 OTD). I have 180 rounds (various types) through it so far with no malfunctions. They are about as small and light as a .45 ACP can get, and the 10+1 capacity is nice to have. I compared the PT side by side with a Kahr P45, a Springfield Micro and a Para C-6 LDA. Honestly, It was the best combination of CCW attributes: Light weight, high capacity, safe for carry in any position. It has also proven quite accurate, producing 2-1/2 to 3" groups at 40 feet. I still carry my Witness Compact 10mm most of the time, but occasionally it is too large and heavy. The PT145 fills the void here.

[Ronnie]

I was going back and forth between the .40 and .45, trying to decide which one to get. Yesterday my decision was made for me. Had a guy offer me a PT145 for $200.00 he had it for about 2.5mths. said the recoil was a bit much for him, he is going with the 9mm version. Only thing is the box,lock,key, and manuals were stole from his truck a few days after getting it, while he was in a store trying out holsters.

[MCgunner]

Long as it's unlocked, who cares about the key?

Has anyone tried the 200 grain speer JHPs in it? If it'll feed those flying ashtrays, it'll feed anything. That's my .45 function test ammo, and since I like carrying those, I don't want a .45 that won't feed 'em anyway. My Ruger is flawless with anything, but it's a lot bigger and more pain to carry than the little Taurus. I've been thinking about that gun, too, but I don't feel I need another carry gun since I like my little 9mm.

[HighVelocity]

Long as it's unlocked, who cares about the key?

Has anyone tried the 200 grain speer JHPs in it? If it'll feed those flying ashtrays, it'll feed anything. That's my .45 function test ammo, and since I like carrying those, I don't want a .45 that won't feed 'em anyway. My Ruger is flawless with anything, but it's a lot bigger and more pain to carry than the little Taurus. I've been thinking about that gun, too, but I don't feel I need another carry gun since I like my little 9mm.

I have not seen any of the Flying Ashtrays in years. I don't think Speer makes those bullets anymore. :confused:

[MCgunner]

I have not seen any of the Flying Ashtrays in years. I don't think Speer makes those bullets anymore. :confused:

Mmm, I have a stash. I'll have to look cause I like the bullets.

[Dave R]

Has anyone tried the 200 grain speer JHPs in it? If it'll feed those flying ashtrays, it'll feed anything. I shoot the 185gr. Speer Gold Dots in mine all the time. My favorites. I chrono-ed the 230gr hardball at about 700fps in mine (short barrel and all) so I dropped back to the 185gr. to get velocity up. The 185's do about 900fps in mine.

I really like it.

[MCgunner]

The gold dot is available in 200 grain and looks a lot like the old flying ashtrays as for as ogive, OAL, and the size of the hollow cavity. I reckon it's taken the old load's place. If it'll fire the 185, shouldn't be a problem with the 200 grainer.

[HighVelocity]

I've fired the 200gr Gold Dot, 185gr Corbon, 185gr Golden Saber, and 230gr Winchester Ranger without a single malfunction.

[Lou22]

Has anybody tried Double Tap's 185gr out of the PT145? I like the Ranger 230gr in mine but I'm worried the velocity would be too low out of the short barrel. I figure they'll work like Speer's 185gr but with the Double Tap extra velocity. The Ranger 230gr +P might make up the loss but Taurus recommends not using +P.

Lou

[ranger7]

All my comments on the Mil Pro PT-145 are "pro", no cons. I bought one earlier this year. I liked it so much, I got a second one. I don't want to be without one of these. I think it's the perfect carry gun for me.

[Preacherman]

I'm looking very hard at the PT145 and PT745 as concealed handguns for some of the disabled and handicapped shooters I train. A few things struck me about these guns:

1. The overall length of both models is less than that of a S&W 642 snubby! It's also less than the new Kahr P45. That's a pretty remarkable achievement.

2. The overall width of both models is less than the 642, whilst the height is a bit taller, given the magazine, but not much.

3. Given those dimensions, plus the fact that I routinely pocket-carry a 642 in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster, I see no reason why the PT .45's (particularly the single-stack 745) should not be a very good pocket-carry choice.

Definitely thoughts to ponder...

[bigmike45]

Freddy,

You cant go wrong with the "third generation" PT-145 Millennium Pro's.
1st and 2nd generation had some frame cracking problems starting at 1000 rounds.
I have one that has had over 3000 rounds through it and it is one great gun without any such problems. I have had "ZERO" and I mean "ZERO" malfunctions. It goes "BANG" every time I pull the trigger and it is very accurate. It is the only gun, other than my $2000.00 Wilsons that shoot to point of aim. Friday I was at the range, burning off some frustration of the shoppers I encountered in the mall. I had taken my Springfield Champion to wring out some adjustments I had made. Then I pulled out my MP and there was a couple next to me that sneered at the guy with the cheapo gun. 20 rounds later and one ragged 2 1/2" hole at 15 yards changed their tune. They wanted to look at and handle it. They even offered me some money to shoot it. I refused the money and handed it to them with 1 full 10 round clip for each. When I was leaving they were at a local gunstore buying one. They gave me the thumbs up as I drove by.

This is mine. All 3rd generation guns have the accessory rail:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=27589&d=1123861446

This was the first two clips, right out of the box at 15 yards freehand:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=27590&d=1123861464

[AFhack]

I've never tried the 145 but I did buy a PT745C Mil Pro about two months ago. I liked the way it felt and I love the way it shoots... It's much more accurate than I expected out of such a short barrel.

However I think I got a lemon out of the group. Mine has a random failure to fire function built into it that almost guarantees that at least one round out of each magazine will fail to fire. It occurs with at least five different kinds of 45ACP that I've tried, and every time it happens the primer shows a light primer strike. Note: almost all the rounds fired out of this gun also show a primer strike that's considerably off center... most within two firing pin point diameters from the 7 o'clock edge of the primer.

Anyway - I really want to be happy with this gun since its very accurate and it's trigger action, while being long, is considerably lighter than most DAO guns I've tried. It's back with Taurus for the third time and I'm hoping it comes back truly fixed this time.

[F350Lawman]

My PT145 fed the "ashtrays" fine. You can still get the CCI aluminum cased ones cheap. They are WIDE mouthed 200gr, way wider then a Gold Dot. I used em' for breaking in the gun, the were on sale for $8 per 50.

I carry Ranget T regular pressure now in both my 45s

[old_ironsights]

I can't see giving up 4 rounds of capacity for the miniscule difference in size...and I do mean miniscule.

Old Ironsights

[HighVelocity]

My PT145 fed the "ashtrays" fine. You can still get the CCI aluminum cased ones cheap. They are WIDE mouthed 200gr, way wider then a Gold Dot. I used em' for breaking in the gun, the were on sale for $8 per 50.

I carry Ranget T regular pressure now in both my 45s

Where can I get some?

[Grayrock]

I highly recommend the PT-145 Mil PRO. Definitely make sure it is a Millenium PRO and not just a Millenium (no PRO) or just a plain old PT-145 (neither Mil nor PRO). Mine is my everyday CCW. Mine likes the Taurus Total Copper Hex hollow points best and Hydra Shocks 2nd best.

Follow HighVelocity's advice and search for threads on this board. Lots of good info out there.

[torpid]

I also have one, and like mine quite a bit.

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[ShelbyV8]

I agree there is very little difference in the grip size between the 145 and 745. The 145 filled my hand better and felt better to me, so I am sure the 745 feels better to some people. As far as concealment I don't think it really makes any difference. Same thickness at the levers (thickest part of gun) approximately 1/8 inch in the grips.

[Crue4]

WOuld you go with the 40 or the 45 with the MP? Heard conflicting arguments about he 40 being better SD round in the short barrel than the 45 in the short barrel? What do you guys think>

[jeepmor]

WOuld you go with the 40 or the 45 with the MP? Heard conflicting arguments about he 40 being better SD round in the short barrel than the 45 in the short barrel? What do you guys think>

With the 40 having an 35kpsi max pressure and the 45 having a 22kpsi max pressure, I'd have to argue for the 40 as far as speed out of the shorter barrels. But 45 acp is one of the easiest ammos to get nearly anywhere, I see the 40 alot, but it's routinely understocked in my shopping grounds of BiMart and GI Joes in the PNW region.

I really like my Pt145, so much so that I bought my wife a PT111 for less recoil. She did not like the 45 much, and with the higher pressure specs, I suppose the 40 kicks even more, maybe 1.5 times as much from some crude comparison calculations I did using the max pressure spec and inner diameter of the cartridge as the intantaneous force going back into the slide, the 40 beat the 45 by a large margin.

I've run the speer 230 ashtrays through it without issue. Matter of fact, I've run 3 flavors of handloads (Hornady 185/230/speer 230) and 3 flavors of factory ammo (ump ball/win185silvertips/federal 230 Hydrashocks) through it with no issues either. About 600 rounds through the barrel now without any ammo or gun related problems. I squeezed the mag release while plinking and it partially dropped the mag and did not chamber the next round properly, my fault, not the gun or the ammo. The feedramps on these models is particularly well polished.

I'm wish someone would offer the smaller 147 grain bullets I see that come out of mexico, can't recall the name just now. They should be able to offer some serious velocity out that short barrel, espeicially since the 230 grainers don't move all that fast in comparison to longer barrel guns.

I took some fine grit paper (1200) to the slide's inner rails and just spent about 5 minutes knocking off the high spots. The slide is much smoother now and I consider this fairly important because the mating rail is anodized aluminum, not steel. Plus it just feels better when cycling it manually, I like that smoothness, especially for the 5 minutes extra work it took while cleaning it. If you do this, less is more.

I am finding the same response from folks about Taurus, that's a cheapie, how could you do that routine. Then I go shoot it with them, all arguments cease after that.:evil: :neener::what: I think Taurus makes good products, I bought another and would consider anything in their current product line worthy and a sound financial investment. I'll share my thoughts on my wife's pt111 when we get around to plinkin it this week or next. It's the stainless model, looks nice.

jeepmor

[Crue4]

Jeep-- Thanks for you indepth answer... For the price.. I may just go ahead and go with the 45.. and to be honest probably at some point down the line I would add a 40 to the collection anyway...

I think I am going to try the Taurus.

[Freddie]

Thanks for all the info guys...I went out and bought me a Stainless PT145 Mil Pro and a 24/7 Pro Stainless 40 cal....
You guys talked me into Taurus...

[jeepmor]

[QUOTE=Crue4]Jeep-- Thanks for you indepth answer... QUOTE]

Yeah, I babble....A LOT. Hopefully something sensible comes out as I am usually trying to help. But sometimes the diarrhea of the mouth just won't stop. ;)


Again, I really like mine and support Taurus for I've had no issues with my
PT145. Let us know how they shoot Freddie. If there are any issues, please keep us informed. If it's only praise, that works too.

jeepmor

[meef]

Thanks for all the info guys...I went out and bought me a Stainless PT145 Mil Pro and a 24/7 Pro Stainless 40 cal....
You guys talked me into Taurus...
I happen to own that same exact combination.

You Won't regret either!

:D

[Trainman]

I bought myself a new PT145 for Christmas. So far after 50 rounds I really like it. I was a little unsure of getting used to the long trigger-pull but I can adjust to it. It may even be better by 'forcing' me to squeeze a little more slowly and avoid 'jerking'.

(although some might debate that 'jerk' is a natural state for me) :evil:

[Richard.Howe]

They're good pistols, but the one I shot would stovepipe every time it was limpwristed. I have since shot another that performed identically.

You also have the lawyer's internal key lock.

If I was in the market for something this size/shape/caliber, I would consider the G30. Though I sold mine to buy a P245, the G30 was a very nice mini-45. Of course, the G30 is a smidge larger than the PT145, but this doesn't make any appreciable difference at all unless you pocket carry.

Rich

[Trainman]

You also have the lawyer's internal key lock.

If I was in the market for something this size/shape/caliber, I would consider the G30. Though I sold mine to buy a P245, the G30 was a very nice mini-45. Of course, the G30 is a smidge larger than the PT145, but this doesn't make any appreciable difference at all unless you pocket carry.
The Internal keylock has never been an issue for me - don't use it. And to my knowledge, there has never been any documented statistics of a lock unintentionally rendering a gun from being used.

When I started looking for a new .45 I had a list of criteria that the gun had to match

1. size: overall length of 6 inches or less

2. Manual safety. The Glocks are proven good guns and I really considered a G30 but I must have a manual safety for MY comfort level. The trigger safety doesn't cut it for ME.

3. Price under $300 - $350

Throw in a lifetime warranty and reliability when I shoot it and I decided that the PT145 fullfilled all of the requirements.

[MrTuffPaws]

They're good pistols, but the one I shot would stovepipe every time it was limpwristed. I have since shot another that performed identically.


Rich

Well DUH! Whadda ya know. You limp wrist an auto and it stovepipes? You gotta be kidding me?

[Richard.Howe]

Well DUH! Whadda ya know. You limp wrist an auto and it stovepipes? You gotta be kidding me?

Hahaha :D

Yes, you're definitely right. Limpwristing is bad form that has predictable consequences. That's why it's listed as a standard test during wring-out of an autopistol in the gun rags, contract evaluations, etc.

That said -- my 2 Glocks, 3 Sigs, Les Baer 1911, Beretta 92FS, and Makarov do not stovepipe when limpwristed.

Which makes my experience with the PT145 a bit of an anomaly. Your Mileage May Vary! :D

Rich