18" 870 barrel

[tango3065]

Does Remington no longer sell these? I have tried natzez, midway, and a local dealer today said that 20" inch was the shortest remington brand he could get. :confused:

[Rupestris]

Part number is 242243 for the 18.5". Try the Remington website.
I ordered direct for under $100.
As far as I know it is still available.

[Rob62]

I presume you want a rifle sighted 18" (smooth bore??) barrel. Remington still makes these but they are usually on back order. I ordered one a couple of months ago direct from the factory, and it took over a month to get it to me.

Happy New Year,
Rob

[tango3065]

I want a bead sight.

[1911user]

Here's a mossberg 18 inch with bead sight, cylinder bore, blued or parkerized.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=958340

I've never used one, so I can't comment on the good/bad of it.

[tango3065]

The mossy barrels are just to thin for my taste, not saying they are bad I just prefier remington.

[1911user]

check ebay. There were several new/near-new barrels pulled from police 870s for sale although not cheap. I ended up with a 20 inch rifle sighted barrel; lots of those for sale, but I wanted rifle sights instead of a bead.

[Rob62]

I have both a 870 Police model 18" smooth bore barrel with rifle sights, and a Mossberg made barrel for an 870 with bead sight.

The Mossberg does appear to be thinner but I have had no problems with it - so I can recommend it if you are set on the bead sight option.

Happy New Year,
Rob

[tango3065]

A gun shop about 30 minutes from me is going to order me one for $120.00, does this sound like a pretty good price?

[9mmMike]

That seems a skosh high for a bead sighted barrel. I'd have expected closer to 100 bucks, maybe even less. Is it CYL or IC, Express or polished?
Good luck.
Mike

[tango3065]

I think he said cylinder and its the parkerized police version. Also will the barrel have the little ball on the barrel mount for my magizine tube endcap? My gun is a older 870 that has the ball and detent and I have been hearing the new ones have dimples and diffrent endcap, will this create any problems or just a simple barrel change?

[9mmMike]

That price is probably about right for a barrel that is really park'd and not an Express.
The new Express barrels do not have the detent ball or even a hole in which to install one.
If this is a police barrel, it should still have the detent as they still use the old-style mag spring retainer, i.e. no PC dimple caca.
Mike

[tango3065]

If it don't have the detent ball what will keep my mag cap from coming loose? Also if it don't have one will I need to buy the new style mag cap? Is there anyway I will be able to keep the mag cap from coming loose?

[Ringer]

Here (http://onpointfirearms.com/item.asp?cID=640&scID=1098&PID=33709) is one for $100. You could call and inquire as to the type of magazine cap it supports. Without the ball I think you would have trouble keeping the cap tight since your tube doesn't have the dimples for the newer type cap.

[tango3065]

I may have to put a mag ext and clamp on. I think that should solve all problems right?

[9mmMike]

I may have to put a mag ext and clamp on. I think that should solve all problems right?

That depends. The factory extensions that I have still use the detent in the barrel to secure the collar (which is essentially a cap with a hole in it) to keep the extension tight. The clamp will hold the tube to the barrel and help to keep the whole assembly in place but it does not use all that much clamping force. It is best to have the detent as well in my opinion.
If you have really purchased a police barrel, I am pretty sure it will have the detent ball.
The PC dimple retention system works pretty well, inspight of my personal distaste for it but you do not want to convert to that as you'd have to put dimples in a perfectly good non-dimpled gun and then you could not run an extension if you were so inclined.
My advice, for what it's worth, is to make sure that you get a barrel with a detent.
Mike

[tango3065]

Whats everyone doing to keep there mag cap on that has removed the dimples in the new 870's?

[9mmMike]

On the two Express' here at casa del 9mm, I have swapped to barrels with the detent. One of these currently runs a factory extension as well.
The other has used, on occasion, a new-style 26" VR Express barrel that I bought new. It is my only rem-choke barrel and I bought it so I'd have a barrel long enough to go shoot with Dave McC someday. His club has a barrel length restriction. Now I have a 30" fixed choke VR that is way nicer.....
Anyway, this new Express barrel does not have the detent or even the hole to install one and the mag cap comes loose all the time while shooting. If I install with pliers, it will stay put but who wants to do that?
Mike

[tango3065]

True I want it to stay. After how many rounds does it have to be retightened?

[9mmMike]

It depends. If hand-tightened, it can be loose after the first few stations on a SC course and I spend the rest of the day checking the cap after every station.
Tightening with pliers, just one little umph (technical term) passed hand tight can keep it in place for an entire round, but I still need to check since I cannot trust it to stay put.
In my opinion it is just not worth the hassle.
The barrels with detents and the correct cap just stay put when tightened by hand. I still check every once in awhile, out of habit, to make sure that it's tight but I have had good luck with them staying put.
Mike

[tango3065]

I am also toying with the idea that a rubber washer or a rubber o-ring might just be the ticket.

[SRG]

Send the barrel to Vang and he'll put a detent in for you.

[tango3065]

I was just looking at the wilson combat 1 shot extension and it don't make any use of a detent ball even if the barrel had one. What keeps these from coming loose, and I know you wouldn't need a clamp with a solid short 1 shot extension.

[dasanii19]

I just bought this, does it seem like a good deal? ebay link>>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=7208030901

[1911user]

I just bought this, does it seem like a good deal? ebay link>>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=7208030901
Looks like a good deal if the barrel is what you really wanted. I might be interested in the shellholder if you don't want it.

[dasanii19]

Yea, im new to this but asked around on shotgunworld and found it seemed to be what I wanted. What are the pros and cons about it? I cant find this exact model on google anywhere?

[dasanii19]

Can anyone fine any type of specs on it? I can not find anything on it anywhere:cuss:

[9mmMike]

Can anyone fine any type of specs on it? I can not find anything on it anywhere:cuss:

Well the ebay "supersize" photo shows what appears to be a detent ball on that barrel which is good. I do not know if that is CYL or IC but I would guess that it's CYL (no choke) which could be good or not. You won't know until you get it and pattern it.
IMHO the price is just OK for the barrel, forearm and SS, especially if you can sell the SS and stock to offset the 144.98. At least you could recoup the shipping.

edited to add that I see it is CYL bore. If only I could read! It will be interesting to see/hear how it patterns.

Good luck,
Mike

[dasanii19]

So your saying all cyl bores pattern differently?

Are the shell holder and forend not keepers? Your thinking I should sell them? Or is it just a matter of opinion?

[9mmMike]

SG barrels are all unique. No one can tell you how your barrel will pattern for sure. It's part science, part voodoo.
Just check out Lee's thread here for an example.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=173390
The additional parts are "keepers" if you want 'em. I have SS's (six rounders) on a couple 870's and they are cool. I was just figuring that you were only after the barrel and that you might reduce the overall cost by selling the extra bits.
The foreend is a non-starter for me. They're a dime a dozen and although I have a DNC-inspired EBSG, I prefer wood furniture.