Nicknames - a rant


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White Horseradish
December 28, 2005, 01:30 AM
I am inspired to write this by the recent "pet peeve" thread on cutesy names for guns. Somewhere in that thread someone mentioned various distortions of politicians' names. In the last two days I've come across a few of those and I have finally reached my limit and I have to say something.

This is to all the folks that like to say things like "Billary", "Shrillary", "Hitlery". Also to the fans of "Swinestein" and "Shrub". There are probably more, but have no desire to look them up. Please note this is not a partisan thing in any way shape or form. I speak to everyone who likes to use these types of insults.

What are you, 8 years old? I have not heard stuff like this since the 8th grade. Look, I will tell you a great secret. Are you ready? Here goes. Distorting people's names is neither original nor clever. Each one of these has been done about a zillion times on this board alone. As a joke, it's dead. It's passed on. It has ceased to be. It is not funny. On a relate note, all Clinton-related jokes have been beaten to death before the end of his first term. Give it up. Saturday Night Live wouldn't and I quit watching them. If you persist in this inanity, people will quit paying attention to you, too. I have no respect whatsoever for politicians and wouldn't mind them being insulted, but can we please have some class? Can we rise a bit above "you're a poopyhead"?

As a side note, I find "Swinestein" to be particularly annoying since to me "Feinstein" is a typically Jewish name and remaking it into something derisive using a synonym for pork is not, well, kosher.

One that I wanted to mention specially that jumped out at me was "Amerika". Oooh. That one was so clever... Just one tiny letter substitution, and all of a sudden there is a whole wealth of meaning, right? Wrong. All it means is that you are either a German or can't spell. It may have some private meaning for you and some people of your circle, whatever that may be, but to most of us it is a typo. And the whole "wink, wink, nod, nod" thing is silly. This isn't Monty Python. Come out and say it, whatever it is, and we can discuss it like rational people I think we are.

Thanks for listening.


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sfhogman
December 28, 2005, 01:35 AM
Goes for me, too. Place names as well. Unclever.

Jeff

sm
December 28, 2005, 01:40 AM
AR native here.

I recall when WJC drove his own Mustang, and was elected to Attorney General. The Mrs. worked for Rose Law Firm. I have seen the Political Gatherings at Bard's Restuarant in the Heights. [I was there on the "other side" ]. Attending such notables as Judge Hale, Tucker, Pryor Sr., Hubbel, and many other names. I watched as WJC became Gov, then to the big White House in D.C.

Granted many folks around here think that couple hung the moon. Trust ME, I cannot type on this forum the names he is still referred to. The ones in original post are "polite".

Some stuff one earns in life and sticks for a reason.

Steve.

El Tejon
December 28, 2005, 08:48 AM
So, we can't call the President "Chimpy McHaliburton" any longer?

*kicks rocks*

How dare anyone have any fun, especially on the Errornet, er, Internet! Scramble all attack pumas and bears in sector K5 this is not a drill!

Wit, irony, sarcasm have no place on the Internet, of all places!:fire:

Sergeant Bob
December 28, 2005, 09:05 AM
Sorry, Swinestien just fits. Get over it.

xring44
December 28, 2005, 09:08 AM
I refuse to go into a tailspin because some use words that are not correct, too much to learn on here to let some mis-spelled, mis-guided, mis-informed person push my buttons.

pmcbooks
December 28, 2005, 09:24 AM
The Internet is SERIOUS BUSINESS.

Janitor
December 28, 2005, 09:30 AM
Can we rise a bit above "you're a poopyhead"?
Hey. Wait a minute.

You don't have to use the term "poopyhead" for anyone if you don't want to, but it's one of my favorites, and I intend to continue using it. And just what in the h e double-hocky-sticks do you mean by "rise a bit above" it? Hmmm?
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Kramer Krazy
December 28, 2005, 09:46 AM
Are you saying that we have to become Politically Correct in our terminology to keep you happy? :rolleyes: .....Sometimes I believe people can take their PC issues and shove them where the sun doesn't shine (BTW, I don't use any of those terms that you mention....I just HATE people throwing PC issues in my face). :D

Trip20
December 28, 2005, 10:00 AM
White Horseradish,

I don't think the terms ("Billary," "Shrillary"...etc) are meant to be "clever.” More so, they're a substitute for things like "%$@&!##%", or similar explicit comment.

Certain members insulting the candidate for whom you'll cast your next presidential vote, is no reason to get on a soapbox and scold.

These people would be happy taking our guns. Do you not expect to encounter some hostility... on a gun board?

Might I suggest you take one of these?

pcf
December 28, 2005, 10:17 AM
White Horseradish

The New Yorker should stop printing childish cartoons, wherein political figures are portrayed as animals and given childish nicknames. The practice is most uneducated and low class. Maybe you should write them and let them know how immature they are.

50 years ago, you would have not dared to write a dissenting opinion and associated it with the name Joseph McCarthy. Not out of altruism or respect, but fear of persecution. Using a trite nickname would have been one of the few ways to associate your views with an unmentionable name.

Patrick Henry was more of oaf than I thought. He often referred to American supporters of the British as Torries. The British were already planning on hanging him, no need to use nicknames to be clever, he needed the people to hate Torries and rally behind his cause. A founding father, an immature name caller?

"Name calling" has it places, it's a reflection of the writer. If your offended by the percieved level of education and maturity on the forum, read elsewhere. Owner's manuals and a dissertations on radio wave propagation tend to be void of immature name calling.

Old Dog
December 28, 2005, 10:32 AM
More so, they're a substitute for things like "%$@&!##%", or similar explicit comment.Not the way some use 'em around here ... these silly names are being used as a substitute for actual thinking ...

Are you saying that we have to become Politically Correct in our terminology to keep you happy?KK, believe you've missed the point here ... it has nothing to do with being politically correct, yet much to do with actually promoting intellectual discourse which rises above the juvenile diatribes passing for actual reasoning on forums such as D.U.

I'm with White Horseradish on this one. If you want to be treated as a grown-up, then engage in intelligent debate, don't resort to using stupid nicknames. If one desires to show the world that gun-owners are not all immature name-calling simpletons, then one should display that ... even on -- yes -- the Internet ...

Flyboy
December 28, 2005, 11:18 AM
I'm with the OP. We're mostly adults here, many of us partially educated; can't we stick to facts, rather than namecalling? Isn't that what we complain about from the left (among other things)?

Calling the President a chimp is fine, just so long as you can provide medical evidence to back it up. Otherwise, take the high road.

Preacherman
December 28, 2005, 11:21 AM
Oh, I don't know... I still think that Hillary should marry Chuck Schumer. Then she could be in name, as well as by reputation, the Bride of Chucky...

:evil: :D :neener:

Spot77
December 28, 2005, 11:40 AM
Oh, I don't know... I still think that Hillary should marry Chuck Schumer. Then she could be in name, as well as by reputation, the Bride of Chucky...


Now THAT was funny :D


And I've never heard it before!

Trip20
December 28, 2005, 11:40 AM
Sometimes I think the world has lost it's sense of humor.

KK, believe you've missed the point here ... it has nothing to do with being politically correct...
This is a correct statement. Insofar as politically is the wrong adjective in the term "politically correct."

Substitute "socially" in place of "politically," and we now have something just as sordid, just as haughty, and just as fashionable as “politically correct”.

twency
December 28, 2005, 11:58 AM
I find the nicknames mildly amusing or interesting the first couple times I hear or see them. Then they just get old. Whether it's Chucky Schumer or Leaky Leahy or Bu????ler, it just seems silly after a couple uses. But hey, if it makes you feel good, keep using it. It lets the rest of us know who you are and what you stand for.

-twency

twency
December 28, 2005, 11:59 AM
Hmm, I see that Bush + Hitler includes an automaticaly censored offensive word. Interesting.

Chimpy McHalliburton then, as somone previously mentioned.

-twency

Ezekiel
December 28, 2005, 12:17 PM
If you want to be treated as a grown-up, then engage in intelligent debate, don't resort to using stupid nicknames.

So, if the nicknames aren't "intelligent", neither is the discourse? And, if the nicknames are "intelligent", then everything is fine? :uhoh:

If one desires to show the world that gun-owners are not all immature name-calling simpletons, then one should display that ...

But many gun owners are "immature, name-calling simpletons." I don't think finding many in any slice of society is a state secret.

Wasn't there a recent (similar) thread wherein the overall acclamation was for folks to develop a more resilient hide? "My thoughts remain the same."

For the record, in all future correspondance, when I use the term "el Presidente", I will specify whether I mean "ours" or "theirs": it's much more specific and will disavow ay potential misunderstanding. :evil:

Molon Labe
December 28, 2005, 12:27 PM
Me thinks some THR members do not have a sense of humor... :rolleyes:

twency
December 28, 2005, 12:29 PM
Methinks some THR members fail to recognize when a joke gets very, very old. :)

chickenfried
December 28, 2005, 12:30 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Trip20
December 28, 2005, 12:30 PM
But hey, if it makes you feel good, keep using it. It lets the rest of us know who you are and what you stand for.
Feel free to meander through my post history. For the “rekert,” I don’t believe I’ve ever used any of the terms sited above to describe a politician.

I’m not here to defend the foolhardy names in use… make no mistake. I’m here because the idea of being “socially correct” with regards to what most view as bad comedy, is pompous.

Ezekiel
December 28, 2005, 12:40 PM
I’m here because the idea of being “socially correct” with regards to what most view as bad comedy, is pompous.

Or favoring Monty Python! :)

rick_reno
December 28, 2005, 12:46 PM
Oh, I don't know... I still think that Hillary should marry Chuck Schumer. Then she could be in name, as well as by reputation, the Bride of Chucky...

:evil: :D :neener:

Never heard it either, it's very good.

Lotta thin skin around here these days...probably a winter thing, will no doubt improve in the summer when we get that thick layer of burnt skin cells.

twency
December 28, 2005, 12:46 PM
But hey, if it makes you feel good, keep using it. It lets the rest of us know who you are and what you stand for.
Feel free to meander through my post history. For the “rekert,” I don’t believe I’ve ever used any of the terms sited above to describe a politician.
I mean this in the nicest possible way:

I wasn't talking to you.

Your post just happened to precede mine. I was referring to any person who habitually uses any particular nickname. As I said (and meant, believe it or not), if you (generically, not you Trip20) want to use a particular name, go ahead. It's your right, and it can offer a clue to where you are coming from. I just happen to think that a lot of the nicknames get old.

__________
-twency

chickenfried
December 28, 2005, 12:49 PM
Guys, with all these similar posts lately, maybe we should have a whining forum?

R.H. Lee
December 28, 2005, 01:02 PM
I agree, White Horseradish. Referring to these people in pejorative terms does nothing but make the poster look foolish and weak IMO. There are other, more intelligent ways to express disapproval and condemnation. Like pointing out the absurdity and hypocrisy of their actions.

EghtySx
December 28, 2005, 01:17 PM
If it happens that often, even on TV, how do the three people who disagree with it/hate it think they are right whent he majority seems to disagree with them? Who is being pompous now?

The names are harmless and do serve a point. It's like anything else, if you don't like it, dont participate in it.

So parental.

What I don't like is people acting like they are so above everyone else just because they have an opinion. We all have opinions, stop disrespecting everyone else's.

grnzbra
December 28, 2005, 01:17 PM
I find the tone of this thread quite offensive. If someone wants to talk about Amerika or Billery, Hildabeast, DiFi or Chucky, that is their choice. If that, in you mind, brands them as immature, childish, neanderthal or Archie Bunker, fine. That is your choice. However, who in the heck do you people think you are to look down your noses at the Archie Bunkers of the world?

That type of attitude is typical of the liberals. If you really feel that way, I suggest you turn in your guns and move to New York City, where you too can kiss the ground trod by Hillary Rodham Clinton, the smartest woman in America, and worship the the famous New Yorker cartoon that shows that nothing exists in America west of the Hudson River, except for little pimples where Chicago and San Francisco should be.

R.H. Lee
December 28, 2005, 01:27 PM
So parental.

What I don't like is people acting like they are so above everyone else just because they have an opinion. We all have opinions, stop disrespecting everyone else's.
You have no idea how contradictory, thus funny, that is, do you? :p

I find the tone of this thread quite offensive. If someone wants to talk about Amerika or Billery, Hildabeast, DiFi or Chucky, that is their choice. If that, in you mind, brands them as immature, childish, neanderthal or Archie Bunker, fine. That is your choice. However, who in the heck do you people think you are to look down your noses at the Archie Bunkers of the world?

That type of attitude is typical of the liberals. Again, contradictory and funny. Liberals resort to pejorative terms and name-calling because they're devoid of ideas.

White Horseradish
December 28, 2005, 01:28 PM
Dang. It seems there's a lot of people that totally missed the point...

Far be it from me to forbid anyone anything. You wanna talk like a Teletubby - be my guest. Just don't be surprised that you're not taken as seriously as you'd like.

I am not against humor. I am against stale and stupid humor. Just because someone does not find your particular joke funny doesn't automatically mean they are completely humorless. More often than not it means your joke sucks.

Aw, heck. Look at Preacherman. Learn from him. Be creative.

Janitor, I think "Your Exalted Poopyheadedness" should be a step or two above palin old "poopyhead". Do you disagree?

Kramer, there is quite a bit of difference between "non-PC" and "annoying".



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Hawkmoon
December 28, 2005, 01:29 PM
Possibly a rhetorical question, but ...

What does this thread have to do with "Legal & Political"?

Carlos
December 28, 2005, 01:32 PM
As a side note, I find "Swinestein" to be particularly annoying since to me "Feinstein" is a typically Jewish name and remaking it into something derisive using a synonym for pork is not, well, kosher.

Pun intended, I'm sure. :neener:

Well, WhiteHorseradish I disagree and the gunners from the boards all over the place probably disagree as well. Please do, get over it!!!

Hitlery will always be Hitlery. Swinestein couldn't be more descriptive of the descructive, hateful 3#@$ she truly is.

I'm sorry your little feelings were hurt by all this. :neener: You'll get no sympathy from me, and I don't particularly care about your feelings.

LMAO. Trying to PC the gunboards. ROFLMAO.

R.H. Lee
December 28, 2005, 01:37 PM
Possibly a rhetorical question, but ...

What does this thread have to do with "Legal & Political"?
If you want to make a salient and persuasive point, you've got to elevate your argument above the rhetoric of name calling. Whenever I see 'Shrub' or 'chimp', for example, I picture the author as a bitter little gollum creature at the keyboard, angry and impotent, unable to otherwise express himself.

grnzbra
December 28, 2005, 01:40 PM
Again, contradictory and funny. Liberals resort to pejorative terms and name-calling because they're devoid of ideas.


No, liberals resort to perjorative terms because they feel superior to nonliberals. Some of the anti-nickname usage comments here are taking the same tone.

I picture the author as a bitter little gollum creature at the keyboard, angry and impotent, unable to otherwise express himself.


And, because you can express yourself eloquently, your ideas are sooooo superior to his?

Old Dog
December 28, 2005, 01:43 PM
Those who begin flinging the label of "thin-skinnedness" are missing the point.

Satire has long been a uniquely American tradition, beginning with the master, Benjamin Franklin, continuing with people such as Francis Hopkinson, Thomas Nast, H.L. Mencken, Mark Twain, Ambrose Bierce ... through today with minds such as Dave Barry, P.J. O'Rourke, etc ... heck, even David Letterman.

What do all these people have in common? They were actually funny, and knew when to stop using tired, hackneyed old buzzwords and phrases.

Clearly, there are many here who believe that (in their minds) cute nicknames, clever puns and tired rhetoric pass for actual thinking and worthwhile ideas ...

sfhogman
December 28, 2005, 01:44 PM
Oh great. Now I'm gonna have a picture of Chuck Schumer and Hillary in my head all day.....:scrutiny:

Biker
December 28, 2005, 01:45 PM
Personally, the only nick that I can recall using is Jorge when referring to Bush. Why? Jorge Bustamante is the nickname that Fox gave to Bush shortly after he was first elected. I figure that if Bush smilingly accepts it from a Mexican citizen, then an American citizen should be able to use it with the same approval.
As an aside, it accurately represents Bush as the Greatest President that Mexico has ever known.
Biker

Werewolf
December 28, 2005, 01:50 PM
Quite often perjorative nicknames are used as a means of achieving brevity.

Calling Hillary Clinton, for example, Hitlery expresses more about what a poster thinks about her politics in one simple word than having to explain it in a paragraph or two ever could.

In verbal communications studies have indicated that more info is passed between people via non-verbal visual means than the actual words said. Internet forums are a word intensive medium where non-verbal visual cues simply do not exist (smilies are a poor substitute at best and highly misleading at worst). Thus about 80% of our ability to successfully communicate with others is taken away. Using nicknames can act in many cases as a substitute for the non-verbal visual cues missing from written communications.

On the other hand:
If using nicknames offends some then tough. THR has an IGNORE function. Use it - I do.

thereisnospoon
December 28, 2005, 01:51 PM
booboo:neener:

Carl N. Brown
December 28, 2005, 02:06 PM
To people who don't know the issues, the name calling makes the
name caller look offensive.

Too much of the "pet name" crowd come across like junior high school
cliques repeating names for outcasts just to appear to be cool and in.

R.H. Lee
December 28, 2005, 02:19 PM
Words mean things; they convey ideas to the reader/listener. The key is in their judicious and thrifty use. If pejoratives are just parroted over and over again, they lose their usefulness.

Jorge- Overused, but still valid. Conveys disdain for GWB's open borders policy and his acquiescence to illegal immigration.

Hitlery- Way overused, but still has some validity as it points out the similarity between liberals and Nazis. Read "Modern Fascism" by Gene Edward Veith for a further explanation.

Chucky- Conveys no particular meaning that I can discern. I prefer 'Upchuck' Schumer or 'ambulance chaser' as more descriptive of his smarmy persona.

Shrub- No meaning that I can discern, except to convey disdain for the fact that his father was President also. The overriding message, however, is angst and bitterness about the 2000 election. Get over it already.

chimp, chimpy- This one is totally worthless, completely overused, and boring beyond belief. John Kerry looks a lot more like a long faced, depressive, sad sack horseface than GWB looks like a chimpanzee. Sorta like Mr. Ed, but not as entertaining.

White Horseradish
December 28, 2005, 02:25 PM
On the subject of thin skins - in all the years on all the boards I have been I have never used the ignore list. Ever. Don't think I'll start now.

EghtySx, if you wish to follow the herd, that's your right. I prefer to think for myself. And yes, I do think that having my own opinion is superior to parroting some TV host. Incidentally, there is no way for me to know what is used on TV or not as I don't watch it. I believe this thing on my shoulders is a bit more than a fancy hat rack with a food receptacle.

grnzbra, please point out where I have said that people should not be allowed to say what they wish. And what the hell do liberals have to do with anything? If you assume me to be one, I'd like to know what you base this on. Or can't you have a discussion without somehow mentioning the evil liberals? It almost seems like you're trying to start your own argument rather than take part in this one.

Carlos, are you telling me I have no right to my opinion and I should not express it? Also, when you say you don't care, I don't believe you. You cared enough to post.


It's funny how many people just told me to shut up because my point of view is not that of the majority...


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Art Eatman
December 28, 2005, 02:36 PM
"Shrub" is an old thing, probably from Molly Ivins or Ann Richards, I forget which. In Texas, "Dubya" was the common nickname from way back.

The name-calling stuff tends to detract from the substance of a post, when there is actually a discussion. When it's just an interjected slam in a thread, it's the same sort of annoyance as a mosquito inside the tent...

And there are just so darned many entertaining ways to phrase one's distaste for some politico without merely calling names.

Art

Janitor
December 28, 2005, 02:52 PM
Janitor, I think "Your Exalted Poopyheadedness" should be a step or two above palin old "poopyhead". Do you disagree?
Can't disagree at all. I've actually used that form before.

Unfortuantely, one is often dealiing with sombody that simply doesn't deserve the extra respect.

:)
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JJpdxpinkpistols
December 28, 2005, 03:02 PM
"And there are just so darned many entertaining ways to phrase one's distaste for some politico without merely calling names.


+1

I had to teach my 8 and 4 year old to not call people names, and instead call the "beast by it's true name".

Maybe its just me, but there is nothing quite as menacing as addressing the person by their proper name or title, and then insulting them as politely as you might order tea from a kindly waiter or waitress. "All kindsa un-nervin'" says Jayne. I prefer my daughters to be that menacing and "dangerous".

I am afraid that once I see those terms in a post, it just "sounds" like its coming out the mouth of a 4 year old, no matter how valid the point (and they are often *valid* points). However, YMMV. If you wanna sound like a 4 year old, go to it. Free country, over 18, blah blah blah.

Tequila_Sauer
December 28, 2005, 03:16 PM
The term "tax cuts for the rich" annoys me a lot more than Dubya, Rummy, or whatever else.

I think it's time to relax a bit. I couldn't care less what people call politicians. If the person is using it as some kind of a debate tool, it only discredits them. If used merely in jest or casual conversation, I really don't care.

Molon Labe
December 28, 2005, 03:46 PM
I am not against humor. I am against stale and stupid humor. Just because someone does not find your particular joke funny doesn't automatically mean they are completely humorless. More often than not it means your joke sucks.White Horseradish:

Lots of things bother me. But I don't get bent out of shape every time I encounter something that bothers me. I simply ignore it and move on.

Trip20
December 28, 2005, 04:00 PM
Oh, the drama. :banghead:

It's funny how many people just told me to shut up because my point of view is not that of the majority...
No one has told you to shut up - disagree with you, yes - but "shut up," no. I don't mean to interfere with your victim status. :neener:

Old Dog
December 28, 2005, 04:01 PM
Ah, I find it so ironic that so many of our staunch defenders of the Bill of Rights are not debating the issue of use or usefulness of nicknames, rather, they're more interested in attacking the original poster's motives and character (by calling him politically/socially correct and thin-skinned, labeling him a liberal, implying that he feels "superior" to others or takes offense too easily, etc.) ...

I'm sorry your little feelings were hurt by all this. You'll get no sympathy from me, and I don't particularly care about your feelings. Yessir, way to stick together guys. How quickly we turn on each other ... how easy it shall be for the antis to thwart the RKBA movement when we cannot even conduct civilized discourse among ourselves without resorting to childhood schoolyard taunting ...

White Horseradish
December 28, 2005, 04:46 PM
Lots of things bother me. But I don't get bent out of shape every time I encounter something that bothers me. I simply ignore it and move on.

When was the last time you've seen me bent out of shape? Do you have a list of things that bother me? I don't see how you can possibly have enough information to make such a judgenment.


No one has told you to shut up - disagree with you, yes - but "shut up," no. I don't mean to interfere with your victim status

Oh, let's see. Post#34 - "Do get over it". Post#30 - That one's even better. Apparently, I'm a liberal and not only should I shut up, I should give up my guns and move to NY.

Now we can get to your very own #10. "Take a chill pill" sure sounds like a synonym to "Shut up".



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Ezekiel
December 28, 2005, 06:06 PM
not debating the issue of use or usefulness of nicknames

Because it is a non-issue. Would you have us debate the use or usefulness of firearms? No? Why not? Because they are, in general, protected: regardless of any perceived annoyance factor.

Until such time as a moderator indicates that the clamorings of an annoyed percentage of the population outweigh the use of sarcastic pronouns, this whole thing is a non-starter.

I think that "el Presidente Jorge Shrub" does a pretty good job of shrinking paragraphs' worth of diatribe into four words. That's damned effecient, I'd say: there becomes no need to preface any contextual argument beyond such as the argument can commence directly with background in place!

(If someone wishes to debate said context, they can, but I've saved us both typing.)

Trip20
December 28, 2005, 06:09 PM
Now we can get to your very own #10. "Take a chill pill" sure sounds like a synonym to "Shut up".
Chill Pill is no synonym (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=synonym) for "shut up." As much as you may wish to be spoken to in that manner - being the victim and all - it hasn't happened.

Chill Pill refers to your condescending first post, which not only talks down to those with whom you disagree, it's blatantly flippant and begging for a sour response. Admit it.

If you're going to tell me you truely believe your opening post is written with respect, is one that is in good tone, and should be well received by those to whom it is directed... Yikes.

jefnvk
December 28, 2005, 06:28 PM
I'm in agreement with WH on this one.

The first few times, it is funny. When it becomes either a common replacement for their name, or for an explicative, it becomes old fast.

Secondly, this is a site where fence sitters come for information. I can't believe when they stumble upon a thread where there are 20 responses that all refer to someone as sKerry, or feinswine, or King Jorge II, they can take this side as being serious. I know personally, as soon as I come to one of these cliches, I automatically disregard anythign else in that post.

I am just not a big fan of name calling, even if the other side is doing it. This is The High Road, after all, and the high road in this situtation is remaining calm and civil, and not degenerating into a bunch of school kids.

Old Dog
December 28, 2005, 06:56 PM
Would you have us debate the use or usefulness of firearms? Why, as a matter of fact ... yes, I would ... Is not that why most people came here in the first place? We debate the use or usefulness of firearms in every conceivable context and every possible way on a daily basis here. You choose to make this an issue of semantics while refusing to see the big picture.

I think that "el Presidente Jorge Shrub" does a pretty good job of shrinking paragraphs' worth of diatribe into four words. Opinions vary. And in my opinion, all a phrase such as that does is indicate the user's negative feelings about the man; there are precisely zero facts presented in that phrase, only shrill emotion. Which, as JefNvk points out so well, is a no-longer-funny political opinion not germane to the greater issues of the right to keep and bear arms -- it's a phrase guaranteed to foster divisiveness, which will also inevitably cause alienation, and will win no hearts and minds to our movement. Stick to the real issues, Ezekiel. If you favor the cynical little political petnames, perhaps you can make a living making campaign signs during election season ...

Standing Wolf
December 28, 2005, 07:51 PM
I believe laughter can be far more devastating than a punch in the nose.

Colonel
December 28, 2005, 07:55 PM
Dear Lord, how many hours of our collective time has this thread consumed so far?

Here's hoping some moderator declares this horse officially DEAD.

Me, I'm gettin' back to watchin' the cars rust.

another okie
December 28, 2005, 08:09 PM
Wait, wait, don't kill it yet! I just thought of this.

The original post said:

"As a joke, it's dead. It's passed on. It has ceased to be. It is not funny."

To which I say: "It's not dead. It's just stunned."

f4t9r
December 28, 2005, 08:12 PM
What gun we talking about here ? or is it some other gun related item ?
I might be interested if its a SIG

cropcirclewalker
December 28, 2005, 08:54 PM
So, I was gonna reply with a post from way upstring but since there was so much civility and politeness, I fell asleep.

I personally invented the term "Her Hillariousness". I am the only one to my knowledge that has used it. I will continue to use it till I get tired of it.

I don't care what anybody here thinks about it, but when I see "PRK" I know instantly of where they speak. Sometimes words become so commonly used that they are no longer colloqualisms. Google it.

Oh, yes It's funny how many people just told me to shut up because my point of view is not that of the majority...


This post has been brought to you by Your Friendly Neighborhood Spellenk Nuzzy and the letter U (not me, not him, you) Sorry, it's not funny. Neither one of them.

Maybe it's a slow discussion day.

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