"Guns are not toys," so why toy guns for kids?


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Richard.Howe
December 28, 2005, 08:25 AM
I got to thinking about this while shopping for Christmas presents for my 2-1/2 year old boy. Fortunately, he's young enough that I didn't have to reach a conclusion this year -- but we will need to before next Christmas!

I grew up around both real guns and toy guns, and can remember many afternoons of playing cops/robbers, cowboys/Indians, etc. I had little chromed revolvers and wood & steel cap rifles. Nerf guns, water guns, you name it. Never shot anybody, never had an accidentical discharge, never carried a gun to school and shot the place up.

Cars are not toys and can hurt or kill the people in/around them. Yet no one would argue that children should be kept from playing with toy cars.

My question remains, though: if guns are not toys, and it's so critical to teach this to our kids, then how is it consistent to provide them with toy guns? Is there a break between the kinds of guns that are OK (i.e. super-soaker, Nerf, etc.) and those that are not (i.e. replicas)?

Would you enforce Rule #1 when your kids played with toy guns -- why or why not?

Rich

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Rabid Rabbit
December 28, 2005, 08:36 AM
Although my kids like to pretend they still know the difference between real life and pretend. Apparently some adults are not capable of the distinction and thus the evil toy idiots.

1911 guy
December 28, 2005, 08:42 AM
I'm no shrink, but here's my take on it. Males of the species have a natural propensity to resolve things physically. Not always appropriate to act on this, but no man can say he's never been tempted to do such and such to so and so. These games kids play is basically getting it out of the system and preparing them for adult life when most situations cannot nor should not be handled this way. Little boys have the same frustrations men do, but we have the maturity to deal with them in an appropriate way. Little boys don't, so squelching the impulse merely lets it fester and pop up in some other way, possibly later in the teen years when things more dangerous than a cap gun are in hand.

As far as pointing toy guns at people, the rule my Dad had for me and I will likely have for my son in a few years is this: If anything comes out of the barrel, it is a gun and will not be pointed at anyone or anything that isn't meant to be shot for real. This included the little plastic pistols that fired soft sticky darts.

feedthehogs
December 28, 2005, 09:21 AM
Rabid Rabbit nailed it.

It seems that some folks just can't tell real life from make believe anymore.

I really believe its the plain failure of men to take responsibility for their actions, kids, work, being married, etc.

The last few generations have been taught if it becomes hard on you quit, run away, find something easier.

I see it in my employees everyday. They quit at the slightest bump in the road and stand there with this helpless look on their faces.

The end result is generations of children who grow up in make believe worlds trying to cope with useless, irresponsible, selfish parents trying to ease the pain of isolation.

They can't tell where make believe stops and reality begins.

shane justice
December 28, 2005, 09:29 AM
Elmer Keith had some thoughts on this and I agree with him.

Shane

Richard.Howe
December 28, 2005, 09:52 AM
Elmer Keith had some thoughts on this and I agree with him.

For those who don't know Elmer's thoughts, would you share? :)

Thanks,
Rich

TexasRifleman
December 28, 2005, 09:59 AM
For those who don't know Elmer's thoughts, would you share? :)

Thanks,
Rich


He ranted against toy guns, as he ranted about many things. Remember however that Elmer Keith, although a very good gun guy, was not a child psychologist. Interestingly enough he admitted to having toy guns when HE was a child, and it clearly didn't impact his ability to deal with real guns.

There are a few paragraphs on the subject in "Sixguns".

Camp David
December 28, 2005, 10:20 AM
if guns are not toys, and it's so critical to teach this to our kids, then how is it consistent to provide them with toy guns?

You need to build clear distinctions in children between toys and real tools; between make believe and reality. Toy guns are not the problem here; parents are. Far too many parents fail to teach children how to distinguish between fantasy and reality.

There is no harm in toy guns and toy cars. Real guns and real cars present a different set of issues that children should be introduced to and learned. Parents are pivotal in this understanding.

We provide toys to children as recreational tools; later, when they grow, we provide them real tools (guns, cars, etc.) and teach them how to handle them. There is no hypocrisy or inconsistency here; simply good parental skills necessary for children to mature.

waterhouse
December 28, 2005, 10:30 AM
The way my dad explained it was: "this is a serious tool and it needs to be treated with respect. It is not a toy. It is not to be 'played with.' If you want to play with something, you have toy guns for that."

So yes, guns are not toys. Toy guns are toys. No problem there.

psyopspec
December 28, 2005, 10:45 AM
So yes, guns are not toys. Toy guns are toys.

Took the words right out of my keyboard.

Hawkmoon
December 28, 2005, 10:51 AM
I am old enough that when I was in grammar school we could wear holsters and carry cap guns, and actually shoot at each other during recess. Back then, a lot of kids went to day camp (or overnight camp) in the summers, and the camps taught both riflery and archery. We knew the difference between a toy gun and a real gun.

To be honest, with the way movies and television are going I think it is more difficult today for kids to discern the line between real and fantasy. So I would have no problems letting a child play with toy guns (in fact, I would encourage it), but I would enforce the safety rules and not allow him/her to point the toy gun at real people, or even real animals. (Maybe just not pets -- pointing at pests like squirrels could be could preparation for hunting.)

USMCRotrHed
December 28, 2005, 01:22 PM
My daughter is 4 1/2. Lately she has been getting curious about my guns. I have been telling her they are dangerous and only big people need to touch them. I always get the infamous WHY?

I got her a BB gun for Christmas. I justified it by the fact that I will use it to teach her safety arund guns of all types. She is not allowed to touch it unless I am around. It even gets locked in the safe with the rest of the arsenal (makes her feel important).

I think it is taking away some of the mystery, and she will be much better off in the long run with a healthy respect for firearms when that day comes...if at all, she is a girl. Wouldn't it be nice if she could outshoot any of her boyfriends though!

Time to go post a new target....

grizz5675
December 28, 2005, 01:29 PM
Like TED NUGENT mentiond on the DONNY DEUTCH show last night we need to educate our kids about guns not to exclude them form guns.Guns are going to be around for along time so lets not keep them a big mystery from children only to be unraveled by curiouse young teenagers without an adult around to teach them safety.

spaceCADETzoom
December 28, 2005, 01:35 PM
Cars are not toys and can hurt or kill the people in/around them. Yet no one would argue that children should be kept from playing with toy cars.


I don't get it. Didn't you just answer your own question there? Toy cars, toy tanks, and toy guns, are not REAL cars, REAL tanks and REAL guns.

As far as enculturating kids to "violence or aggression"..I don't know about you guys, but my dad would have slapped me upside the head if i'd point toy guns at my sister... You're falling into thae antis trap. Guns are not by default about violence. Theyr'e tools, nothing more. Next time you let your kid play with hot wheels, think about Death Race 2000. oh NOES! :)

trueblue1776
December 28, 2005, 01:40 PM
I had toy guns and bubblegum cigarettes when I was little, I'm not a bad man, I just don't vote Democrat :) (or repub for that matter)

antsi
December 28, 2005, 01:43 PM
Although my kids like to pretend they still know the difference between real life and pretend. Apparently some adults are not capable of the distinction and thus the evil toy idiots.

My grandfather had this same rule. He was willing to teach us to shoot, and we could have own pellet guns and .22's, but he did not tolerate toy guns.

I think he was capable of distinguishing between reality and fantasy. He served in the Pacific in WWII and I think he just did not regard guns as an appropriate subject of "play." To him, guns were serious business, to be taken seriously.

mnrivrat
December 28, 2005, 01:47 PM
but I would enforce the safety rules and not allow him/her to point the toy gun at real people, or even real animals.

I think the "fun" is in shooting the bad guys and the charging lions .

Safty rules are for real guns in my opinion . No hitting your sister over the head with that thing may apply though !

Going back to earlier mention --- toys are not real , they are for fantasy play. If a child doesn't understand that , they need help . Either from a parent or from a professional.

Little Jane cooks on her play stove , and not the real one in the kitchen. Little Jack plays with the toy guns, and not the real ones in Dad's gun cabinet.

Just that simple , and it has been working well for a long long time.

Zundfolge
December 28, 2005, 02:13 PM
People really underestimate the ability of children to tell fantasy from reality :rolleyes:

I understand why antis and liberals do, because they desperately want children to not be able to tell reality from fantasy so they can be easily controlled, but why is it so many here are willing to go down that silly road?

Toy guns are clearly toys, and that coyote falling off the cliff is clearly fantasy (and damn funny ... especially to a small child).



Political correctness and our overly litigious society are really starting to take the joy out of existence. :cuss:

Wayne D
December 28, 2005, 02:20 PM
Elmer Keith was against toy guns because he believed it taught kids improper gun handling habits. The liberals are against toy guns because they don’t want kids to like or accept guns. They want them to be scared of guns and go running crying to Momma every time they see one. That’s why they are against the NRA’s Eddie Eagle program, it doesn’t demonize guns.

Thefabulousfink
December 28, 2005, 02:20 PM
Cars are not toys and can hurt or kill the people in/around them. Yet no one would argue that children should be kept from playing with toy cars.
Rich

I think the reason that there aren't many people driving their cars into things on purpose is that when they grow up, they are instructed in the proper use of a car, use it every day, and learn that it is a tool not a toy.

I think the reason that you have never missused a gun is that some one took the time to teach you the same things about guns. Most of the people that I have heard of shooting themselves/others seem to be the type who still see guns in an artificial light. They still think of them as toys or in the Hollywood vison where guns are glamourous and/or dangerous. These are the people who want to try diving through a window, firing two Berettas or an automatic AK one handed.

No one has ever taken the time to teach these people about proper gun handling, and they are the dangerous one. There are plenty of dangerous things in the modern world, but we live with them because we teach people about them. Guns are no more dangerous to a 2 year old than a bottle of bleach and if you follow the same percautions, your child should be safe from both until he/she is old enough to use them safely

pax
December 28, 2005, 02:22 PM
Lot of issues here.

Most kids know the difference between "pretend" and "real." This despite what the child-development experts tell us. If you give them toy guns, they know the toys are only toys. But whether you give toy guns to your kids or not, you absolutely must explain to your child what to do if they come across one and aren't absolutely, 100% certain it is a toy gun.

Apart from that basic safety issue above (which applies whether your kids have toy guns or not), it ain't the kids you need to worry about, it's the grownups.

The reason toy cars are okay where toy guns scare people is obvious when you think of it: toy cars are not life size and no one has ever mistaken a toy car for a real one, except maybe in one of those terrible Japanese horror flicks so beloved during my childhood.

The line between "toy gun" and "real gun" has been badly blurred by the advent of very, very realistic airsoft guns. I defy anyone to so much as glance at one of the toy revolvers from the old days and mistake it for a working revolver. But most airsoft guns are designed to very effectively mimic real weapons, and do it so well that it's fairly common online for discussion threads to go for days debating whether a given picture is of an airsoft gun or an actual firearm.

Even non-functioning toy guns are available in very realistic shapes (though it's hard to find 'em in realistic sizes). Worse than that, even the fake-looking ones look real to people who didn't themselves grow up around guns, who haven't held a toy gun since they were in grade school (if then), and who have never held a real firearm in their entire lives.

People have gotten stupider. It's not the fault of any individual person, and individually most people are still bright enough to keep the drool off their own chins, but the culture has changed so much that people don't expect to see a 6-year-old playing with a cap gun in his front yard anymore. At least, there are enough people that don't expect to see it that someone is likely to call the authorities and scare the crud out of the kid when Officer Unfriendly shows up to find out what's going on.

For all the above reasons, when my kids were old enough to play with toy guns, we greatly preferred to give them plant misters instead of squirt guns (plant misters shoot further, hold more, and break less often anyway). They made plenty of Lego guns & stick guns & such; again, we figured none of those could cause even the most vaporish nanny type to call the cops in a panic.

We didn't let our kids have "real looking" toy guns until they were old enough to buy their own, at which time we explained that they wouldn't be allowed to play with toy guns anywhere visible from the road, or at anyone else's house unless their parents knew & approved both of the guns & of our rule about staying away from public view. We encouraged them to shoot at "invisible" bad guys rather than at each other.

Oh, for a very long time we didn't allow toy guns that really fired stuff (Nerf balls, darts, etc). But that wasn't really a "kids & guns" issue. We just got tired of settling fights about 'em. How do you figure out who is really a noncombatant, or who was just trying to get his brother in trouble? We gave up...

When we purchased our oldest son's first little BB gun, we also purchased a $10 "document safe" from WalMart, one of those cheesy metal boxes that comes with a couple of keys. He learned to lock it up when it wasn't being used and got a kick out of doing so. With the BB guns, we began practicing obeying the Four Rules at all times; I always thought of BB guns as being like the training wheels on a bike.

And every time I brought a new real firearm into the house, I made a point of gathering the kids together and introducing it to them. "This one's not a toy, kids, it fires .22 ammunition. If you see it lying around, what do you do?" They'd tell me the rules, and I'd go lock the gun away.

Probably more issues to consider, but those are the chief ones that come to mind right now.

pax

Sheldon J
December 28, 2005, 02:39 PM
he showed interest in the .45 Blackhawk at the bed side. So I asked him if he wanted to see it. He responded yes he did, so I made a big show of carefully unloading it and showing him the bullets, letting him examine each round carefully. After making the gun safe I let him hold and look at it in detail. At which him if he would like to shoot it and again he said yes. ;)

So out to the back stop we went, I grabbed a nice big pumpkin for a target. I put on my hearing protection showed him as I was loading the gun that now it was unsafe. I stepped behind him and held on to the gun with his little hands holding as best he could. Taking careful aim over his shoulder (note I did not say I put any hearing protection on him) I cocked the hammer and he pulled the trigger. BLAM :eek: and he made a face that was one of total surprise, :what: and he thought he was done. Nope I told him I made him empty the remaining rounds into the pumpkin. :uhoh:

When we were done I took him to examine the pumpkin and made great pains to show him the little holes in the front, and how the back of the orange orb were was no longer there. I asked the question if he thought that the pumpkin was going to ever become whole again, he shook his head no. I explained to him that this was reality, that when something is shot in the real world that it is destroyed forever. That it will not come back like on TV, that guns are dangerous, and if he ever wanted to shoot again all he had to do is ask and we would go shooting.:cool:

About a month after this he was watching some show on TV and this kid took a gun from the house, he thought it was a toy and was going to play cops and robbers. My boy was having a panic attack when the kid loaded it and started pointing it at people and pulling the trigger (he only had one bullet and it was a revolver). I knew then that my lesson had worked.:evil:

Hes 19 now and very pro gun active, life NRA, works at a sporting goods store behind the gun counter, never had any problems with him and guns as he was growing up, and he burned a lot of brass with me at his side.:D

M2 Carbine
December 28, 2005, 02:44 PM
There is real life and there is pretend.

There are real guns and there are toys.

There was The Three Stooges pretending to poke each other in the eyes and actually poking another kid in the eyes.

As a young kid I don't remember ever having any trouble telling the difference.:)

Thefabulousfink
December 28, 2005, 02:54 PM
Hes 19 now and very pro gun active, life NRA, works at a sporting goods store behind the gun counter, never had any problems with him and guns as he was growing up, and he burned a lot of brass with me at his side.:D

See, proper parenting beats Nanny-State politics every time.:)

f4t9r
December 28, 2005, 03:10 PM
You need to build clear distinctions in children between toys and real tools; between make believe and reality. Toy guns are not the problem here; parents are. Far too many parents fail to teach children how to distinguish between fantasy and reality.

There is no harm in toy guns and toy cars. Real guns and real cars present a different set of issues that children should be introduced to and learned. Parents are pivotal in this understanding.

We provide toys to children as recreational tools; later, when they grow, we provide them real tools (guns, cars, etc.) and teach them how to handle them. There is no hypocrisy or inconsistency here; simply good parental skills necessary for children to mature.

Right on

Parker Dean
December 28, 2005, 05:11 PM
We knew the difference between a toy gun and a real gun.

Exactly. Kids do know the difference between toys and real items.

It should be noted that kids will say anything they think will get them out of trouble and if they think saying they thought an item was a toy will work, then they'll say that without the slightest pangs of conscience.

I also think that this idea of not being able to tell the difference between fantasy and reality (for those not mentally ill) is due to lawyers saying whatever it takes to get their clients off.

Standing Wolf
December 28, 2005, 07:38 PM
If I'd had kids, they'd have had real guns.

I'm gradually being convinced there's nothing wrong with toy guns, but still believe real guns are better.

pax
December 28, 2005, 08:00 PM
We knew the difference between a toy gun and a real gun.
Your parents probably didn't own any guns this size:

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Or any superlightweight guns in colors like these:

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Whether you let your kids play with toy guns or not, it is very, very important that you teach them what to do if they see a gun and do not KNOW for sure that the gun is a toy.

That is all.

pax

harvester of sorrow
December 28, 2005, 08:11 PM
Wow, I'm glad my parents didn't take some of these approaches when I was growing up. My brother and I always had the most realistic toy guns you could find, but my father made it clear that these were TRAINING AIDS. We played with them all time, shot a metric ton of those paper cap rolls, etc., but we weren't allowed to point them at any of our friends or each other. I got a BB-gun pretty much as soon as I could walk, I still have vague memories of my grandfather cocking it for me since I wasn't big enough. We got real guns as early as possible, and it was always treated as a system: shooting the REAL guns was the reward for handling the TRAINING AIDS properly. The one exception was water pistols, which even back then were pretty clearly NOT guns, even to a 4 year old.

Also, I was every bit as obsessed with guns when I was 3-4-5-6 years old as I am now. My parents didn't try to hide them from us or frighten us with painful negative reinforcement, they simply told us that any time we wanted to look at or handle the guns, all we had to do was tell them and they would unload them for us so that we could look at them together. I could look at and handle real guns anytime I wanted to, so there was no mystery in them for me. Guns were in view in most rooms of the house, but my brother and I never even considered picking them up without getting one of our parents first....why would we need to?

Mannlicher
December 28, 2005, 08:15 PM
My Dad never let us kids have cap guns. He always felt that playing with guns was just not a good idea. There were always real guns around, in a corner, or a closet. Even at very young ages, we could touch them, as long as we asked, and Dad was with us.

strambo
December 28, 2005, 08:24 PM
I agree with PAX regarding kids need to be 100% sure the gun is a toy and that is harder to do these days. I disagree with the airsoft comments though. Airsoft guns most assuredly are not toys! They say so on the box. They are airguns and should be treated the same as firearms. The main difference is in Rule #4 because airsoft guns have many more suitable targets and penetration isn't an issue. The rule still applies, just lots more stuff can qualify as a suitable target/backstop.

Airsoft guns by law have orange tips (that lots of folks paint over). This is irrelevant to me because they should be treated the same as real guns anyway and if anyone is stupid enough to run around in public pointing a gun (air or otherwise) at people well, Darwinism comes into play. If parents teach their kids about firearms and restrict access to airguns until old enough and have a proven track record with them then it shouldn't be a problem. "Toy gun" mistaken ID shootings have been happening a lot longer than airsoft has been around.

Now, as to airsoft games/simulated training...again the same rules as real guns apply. You ensure all guns are in fact airsoft before starting. You ensure everyone has safety gear and you have safety rules in place. Same as if you were using real guns with simunition or military type blank/MILES gear training. The difference is once you ensure all guns are airsoft with no firearms present in the area, airsoft is infinitely safer than simunition/blanks because it is impossible for them to fire a real bullet by mistake.

cracked butt
December 28, 2005, 11:04 PM
I bought a toy rifle for my son when he was 2 1/2. Its a not too realistic looking lever action thats blue in color. He won't go for a ride on his bigwheel or bike down the street without it, in case there are some geese to shoot in the ponds down the street. It scares the bejeebers out of the blissninnies on my street.:evil:

Ryder
December 28, 2005, 11:08 PM
I have no problem realizing toys don't endager others. The problem is that others have a problem realizing toys won't hurt them. Police are known shoot kids who point toy guns at them. These days we have lots of CCW holders. Go read Packing.org on the subject. There are people don't care how old a kid is. There are people who don't care if it's even a toy. People these days seem to be so fearful for their own safety that I would not let a kid treat a toy as though it were not real.

I don't think toy guns are a bad thing. I personally used them as a teaching aid. My kids were taught safety and shooting techniques at a very young age using toys. It didn't take long and they've always done great with real guns.

GRB
December 28, 2005, 11:33 PM
Many 'real' things are not toys yet toys are fashioned after the real deal. You left out an awful lot of them in the original post. There are real and toy:

Archery Sets
Guns
Knives
Bombs (or were such toys when I was a kid - of course we still have ral ones)
Army Tanks
Jet Fighters
Bombers
Army Men
Navy Ships
Ambulances
Fire Trucks
Cop Cars
Get-away Cars
Good Guys
Bad Guys
Dogs
Cats
Animals of all sorts
Ovens
Refridgerators
ladders
tool sets
power tools
babies (as in dools for this and the next four also)
Boys
Girls
Men
Women

Heck, the list goes on an on and on of the real things in life mimicked by toys. Nothing wrong with any of them as a toy so long as the child playing with them knows there is a difference between real item and toy item and so long as the adult makes sure the real deal is secure as it should be from prying little hands. As the child grows older, the difference get explained more and more until the time when the child is old enough to actually handle the real deal. This goes for any of the above toys although the child may no longer nbe a child when he or she is old enough to handle the real McCoy oif whatever it is (such as in the case of bombs).

As for applying any of the firerams safety rules (I am guessing that is what you mean by rule number 1 although I strongly doubt that your rule number 1 and mine are at all the same regarding handling firerams) I think it would be ridiculou to teacha child that firearms safety rules apply to toy guns (I am not talking BB guns as toys but mean cap guns, light guns, water guns). Toys have there own safety rules, which are pretty much what you teach every child about safe play. These would be rules like: Play nice, share your toys within reason, don't poke other kids eyes, don't fight, don't run with sharp objects, don't play with things that are not toys, if you are not sure if it is real or a toy then do not touch it ask an adult, etc... In other words toy rules and play rules apply to toys, firearms safety rules and shooting rules apply to firearms - two different sets of rules. You teach one at play so the other is later easier to teach seriously 9can apply to guns or anything that is taught later in life). There is no inconsistency in giving a child a toy and letting them play with it and at the same time keeping them knowledgeable of the fact that the real deal is no toy and is potentially dangerous if mishandled.

All the best,
GB

jtward01
December 28, 2005, 11:34 PM
I had toy guns up until I turned seven. (At age seven I graduated to a .22 LR Steven's Favorite rifle.) Even with the toys I was not allowed to point them at people and gun safety rules were drilled into my head, the first being "never point a gun at something you don't want to kill."

I have a photo of myself at about age four. I'm sitting in a chair holding my Daisy BB pistol. The muzzle is pointed at the floor and my index finger is alongside the frame, not on the trigger. Even at that age I knew to keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction and my finger off the trigger until ready to fire.

Toy guns are fine, if they are used to teach children proper and safe gun handling skills.

To this day I cannot pick up a gun without checking the chamber, even if I know absolutely that the gun was empty when it was put away. I've tried to ignore the compulsion but I can't, at least not for more than a few seconds. I have to check. I HAVE to check. I can't help it. Thanks Uncle Bill.

harvester of sorrow
December 29, 2005, 12:04 AM
I think it would be ridiculou to teacha child that firearms safety rules apply to toy guns (I am not talking BB guns as toys but mean cap guns, light guns, water guns).

Heh, my father would disagree with you.;)

Stevie-Ray
December 29, 2005, 12:07 AM
I think for most kids, the gap between toy guns and real guns is a couple years. My first exposure to firearms was at 11 and I quit my toy guns at about 9 or so. Still liked guns, just thought I was too old for toy ones. After my adventure with the Mossberg semi-auto at 11, (Thanks always, Jim) I begged my folks for my own. It came on my 12th birthday, a Stevens bolt.

There was some growing in those 2 years. With that growing came respect for firearms. But I wouldn't give up all that time with toy guns for anything in the world. My childhood was the best.

Dave R
December 29, 2005, 12:14 AM
Would you enforce Rule #1 when your kids played with toy guns -- why or why not? I didn't mean to do this, it just turned out this way...

Many years ago, my (then) 9 year old son was playing with a toy pistol. On a lark, I asked him if he wanted to learn the safety rules adults used whan handling guns. He seemd interested, so I taught him the 4 rules. Told him not to point it at any real person. Walls, dolls, imaginary enemies are OK. But an adult would treat a toy gun like a real gun, and never point it at a person.

A couple weeks later, I heard his 4-year old sister say "Hey! Finger off the trigger till sights are on the target!"

I went to investigate.

Seems he had taught her the 4 rules, too. Probably to show her how grown up he was. She called him on it. I was pretty pleased.

So, by hindsight, I think it was a good thing to do. ;)

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