45 ACP Revolver Options?


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dracphelan
December 30, 2005, 09:12 AM
I'm looking at getting my first revolver. In order to keep ammo loading/purchasing simple, I want 45 ACP. I want to know what all of my options are. So far I have:
Taurus Tracker
S&W 625, 1917
Ruger Blackhawk

Are there any other options?

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TexasRifleman
December 30, 2005, 09:19 AM
In order to keep ammo loading/purchasing simple, I want 45 ACP

I am assuming this is because you already shoot 45 in some auto pistol?

I am on the lookout for a 610 for the same reason.

I would go with the 625. I like the N Frames and if you plan to use it for self defense the single action would not be my first choice.

For your first revolver a S&W is never a wrong choice.

dracphelan
December 30, 2005, 09:32 AM
I shoot 45 in both an auto pistol and a carbine. So far, it's looking like either the S&W or the Ruger. The ruger is due to the fact that I'm looking into Cowboy action shooting and it can be converted to 45LC. With 45 LC I can also go pistol hunting.

P0832177
December 30, 2005, 10:16 AM
A 625 is a dream gun! The gun handles great! The action can be slicked up! Most of all they shoot! And shoot! And shoot! I have three! The gun to get is the 625 JM model, and the reason I say that it has the DX front sight system to make swapping front sights easy! You fiber optics for outside! Nice Gold bead in doors! I do not like the JM grips, but I just plain like the Hogue Monogrip!

jacobtowne
December 30, 2005, 10:31 AM
Difficult to compare a Blackhawk with a M25 - one is SA only, the other DA/SA.
What will the revolver be used for?
JT

Dr.Who
December 30, 2005, 10:31 AM
Go with the 625.... I have a pc version and love it... Shoot IDPA with it.

As for you conversion to shoot 45 long colt out of a 625 45acp... Won't work. S&W makes both types of 625's (mountain gun) but you can not mix to rounds in the same gun. In addition, the 625 would not be usable for the CowBoy Action Shooting.... It is a double action gun, SASS rules dictate a single action revolver. That means you now have the excuss to buy 2 more single action pistols on top of your new 625.... A gun collection can always stand one more gun....:evil:

By the way I use a pair of 357 Ruger Vaqueros (old style) in SASS...

riverdog
December 30, 2005, 10:53 AM
As I read that post he's looking to use the Ruger Blackhawk for Cowboy Action in 45LC, not the S&W Mod 25.

If I could find the right Mod 25 I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Tom C.
December 30, 2005, 11:01 AM
I have a Model 25-2, that has a Performance Center Action Job and a 5Ē barrel, a brand new 625JM, and several Ruger Blackhawks in stainless with 5 ĹĒ barrels and spare .45 ACP cylinders.
Surprisingly, there really isnít much difference in performance. They are different, of course. I used the Blackhawks for cowboy shooting, and I have used the 25-2 in IPSC. I may use the 625JM in IPSC/IPDA.
You canít go wrong with the Smiths and Rugers. My personal preferences donít include the Taurus.

3006mv
December 30, 2005, 11:41 AM
s&w 625 for target/plinking or 325pd for carry. taurus is good too but they have the 5 shot and you have to buy their moon clips and I heard that 45 auto rim cartridges may not work in them. What carbine .45acp do you have dracphelan?

dracphelan
December 30, 2005, 11:51 AM
s&w 625 for target/plinking or 325pd for carry. taurus is good too but they have the 5 shot and you have to buy their moon clips and I heard that 45 auto rim cartridges may not work in them. What carbine .45acp do you have dracphelan?

I have one of the MechTech 1911 Carbine Conversion Units. I love it.

Peter M. Eick
December 30, 2005, 02:18 PM
What about the pre-25?

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/pre25_best_target.jpg

Any gun that can let me put 50 shots in a group like that at 15 yards is a keeper! Don't rule the pre-25's out, but they are expensive and pretty collectable!

Deer Hunter
December 30, 2005, 02:28 PM
Get a 625. I've got one, it's an amazing gun. Rugged and accurate, it'll never disapoint you. I would suggest a 625 over many automatics.

Croyance
December 30, 2005, 08:40 PM
I thought that Colt also had a .45 ACP revolver?

Gordy Wesen
December 30, 2005, 08:52 PM
Shame on you Peter for posting that picture.
Don't ever do it again.














now i want one

dracphelan
December 30, 2005, 09:26 PM
I thought that Colt also had a .45 ACP revolver?

They only list long colt, no revolvers in ACP. :(

TOADMAN
December 30, 2005, 10:13 PM
How bout the Thunder Ranch Model 22? Not here yet! Something to consider.

wundudnee
December 31, 2005, 12:07 AM
Shame on you Peter for posting that picture.
Don't ever do it again.














now i want one

Yep, I do too, to go with this one. Here is my Pre-26 .45 model of 1950.
http://www.fototime.com/{218FB845-A174-46BA-B065-546E314A8C81}/picture.JPG

;)

Gordy Wesen
December 31, 2005, 03:54 AM
that gun is a real daisy.
gee, a nice deep blue and no trigger lock.

P0832177
December 31, 2005, 04:49 AM
Colt made a 45ACP DA/DA along what I believe to be 1917 New Service?They only list long colt, no revolvers in ACP. :(

smince
December 31, 2005, 04:54 PM
How bout the Thunder Ranch Model 22? Not here yet! Something to consider.

They are here! I didn't know of their existence until I saw my dealers' personal one yesterday at his shop. I want one, but his cost on one was $30.00 more than his cost on the Miculek model. He said he felt like they were charging an extra $100.00 for the TR grips and case.:D

Evidently there have been some front sight issues, also. Check out this link:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/530103904/m/411105428

brasskeeper
December 31, 2005, 08:45 PM
Colt made a 45ACP DA/DA along what I believe to be 1917 New Service?


You are correct !!!! :)

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=41978994

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=41842394

TOADMAN
December 31, 2005, 09:31 PM
They are here! I didn't know of their existence until I saw my dealers' personal one yesterday at his shop. I want one, but his cost on one was $30.00 more than his cost on the Miculek model. He said he felt like they were charging an extra $100.00 for the TR grips and case.:D

Evidently there have been some front sight issues, also. Check out this link:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/530103904/m/411105428
I figured the guy that started this thread would be all over the Model 22. I am gonna get me one...For sure!

S&W44
January 1, 2006, 05:10 AM
Here's the S&W 22

REP1954
January 4, 2009, 01:46 AM
Colt has a 45 ACP cylinder available for thier Single Action Army but I think only as an option to be added later to the 45 Colt. I have a 45 Colt and I ordered a 45 ACP cylinder from Peacemaker Specialist that is a Colt part not an after market item. During WW2 Colt sent the British Colt SAA's chambered for 45 ACP under the Lend Lease Program when other guns were in short supply.

S&Wfan
January 4, 2009, 10:38 AM
I'm partial to my long barreled Model 25-2 target revolver from 1980. Mine was chopped, back "in the day," to a sweet-handling 3 1/4" and the action slicked up for fast, double action work and for carry purposes. Several gunsmiths were doing this in the '70s and '80s to the 25-2s because S&W seemed clueless to the awesome sales potential of offering a short barreled, super-fast reloading moon-clipped .45ACP revolver.

Finally, S&W "got it" and offered the 625 stainless guns with 3, 4 and 5" barrel options!

However, I like the handling properties of my chopped 25-2 in matches vs. the full, heavy underlug of the new guns, plus I've grown fond of the blued guns, so I foolishly sold off my very early 1990s era 625. However, this 25-2 is my favorite handgun of all time.

Funny . . . it still thinks it is a target revolver . . . shooting ragged little single hole groups, standing/unsupported at ten yards!

To the OP, pick up a 625, 25-2 or any other adjustable sight S&W .45ACP revolver. You will never regret it!

My 25-2, alongside a Model 36 J-frame to show contrast . . .
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/363/363373/folders/277718/2217523IMG2446.JPG


. . . and all dressed up with American Elk Stags by Patrick Grashorn of Greeley Colorado . . .

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/363/363373/folders/277718/2250454198025-2.jpg

Tom

Glockman17366
January 4, 2009, 12:23 PM
I must admit I'm a huge fan of Taurus revolvers!
I do own a Tracker (in .357 Mag) which is sweet.

That said, if I were to buy a double action revolver in .45 ACP, it would be the S&W 625. Shot a buddy's 625 (4" barrel)....nice gun!!!

Another alternative, but unlikely to fit your needs, would be a Ruger Blackhawk .45 Colt/.45 ACP convertable. Also nice, if you're into single action.

bluetopper
January 4, 2009, 01:20 PM
I think Freedom Arms has either a 454 or 45LC that they make a 45acp cylinder for.
I've often wished Freedom would make double action wheel guns.

BlindJustice
January 4, 2009, 05:45 PM
S&W Current Production
-----------------------------
625 Pro Shop with 5 1/4" Bbl. Len. and
forged hammer and trigger.
625 JM - 4" Bbl. but not the full underlug
with JM wood grips.
22 - carbon steel blued with 4" tapered bbl.
and ejector shroud - fisxed rear sight, made up
to look like the 1950 Army.
22 Model of 1917 - same frame as the 22 above
S&W scrulpted the front of the frame ot look like
the pre-war N-frames chambered in .45 ACP/Auto RIm
The 1917 has a 5 1/2" Bbl. and a lanyard ring at the
base of the grip like the original M1917 built for WWI

Then the Scandium framed models
325 TR = Thunder ranch with a light rail
on the 4" Bbl.
325 PD same as TR but no light rail.
325 NG - Stainless Steel cyl. and 2 1/2" Bbl.
Cyl. & SLide extreme duty fixed rear sight. night
sight dot ramp front. pachmayr grips.

S&W Out of Production
Blued carbon steel w/square butt.
25 - S&W lists a 3" Model but it was a
Distribuor run of 300 for Lew Horton
Blued or Nickel Back in the 80s, gunsmith
Jovina also made some of these

25 aka 1955 Target, 6 1/2" Bbl. len.
with Target hammer, and Target Trigger with the
high polish blue finish. Most came in a wood
presentation case. adj. rear sight patridge front

1950 Target - the Bbl. is same len. as the 25 but
a bit slenderer adj. rear sightm patridge front

Pre-WWII - S&W changed from the long DA action
to a shorter DA action inner workings post WWII.

1937 Brazilian Contract. - Id'd by the Brazil crest
stamped into the RH side of the frame behind the
cylinder. Brazil contracted for 37,000 of these for thier
military.

M1917 - built for the doughboys of WWI, Mr. Smith
at S&W inveneted the moon clip for the rimless ACP
cartridge and some 150,000+ were built
The M1917 refers to the N-frame S&Ws as well as the
large frame Colt "New Service" revolvers chambered in
.45 ACP, and are stamped "Property of the US Gov."

and Post WWI, Colt stopped making the New Service,
but S&W kept making small numbers of the N-frame "M1917"
for the civilian market. 1920 marked the introduction of the
.45 AUto RIm cartridge in order to have ammo to use and not
have to use moon clips.

Randall

Guillermo
January 4, 2009, 06:15 PM
Were it me I would go lurking for an old model 25.

Mr.Revolverguy
January 4, 2009, 06:29 PM
Guillermo,

I could not agree more. A model 25 Target 1955 just has to be in every revolver fans collection. If you ask me there is not a better 45acp revolver ever made.

http://www.digitalrage.org/pictures/45Cal-Model1955.jpg

Dr.Rob
January 4, 2009, 06:51 PM
Colt ceased New Service production in WW2, not WW1. Civilian models in 45 acp are pretty common, but usually pricier on the used market than a Smith n Wesson.

Those old Colts shoot shockingly well.

If I was buying NEW only, I'd go for the current SW 1917 model.

orionengnr
January 4, 2009, 07:09 PM
You do know taht you are replying to yet another three-plus year old thread resurrected from the dead by a first time poster (Post #24). Why, I continue to ask myself?
If I had a dollar for every one I've seen in the last year I'd go buy me a pre-lock M-625...

Billy Shears
January 4, 2009, 07:13 PM
I've got one Colt M1917 and 2 S&W M1917s. The Colt and one of the S&Ws are both original, the 2nd S&W I picked up just a couple of weeks ago for slightly over $300. It had already been modified by a previous owner. The barrel had been cut down to about 3 1/2 inces, and what looks like the sight base for a sporting rifle put on, which covers the rollmark on the upper surface of the barrel -- or rather what's left of it, since cutting the barrel down would have cut that in half. It would be a good carry gun, except that whoever had the work done inexplicably put a sharp edged target sight on it, tailor made to catch on clothes. I bought the gun with the intention of changing the barrel for a 4 inch one, and putting a ramp sight on it, to make a replica of the revolver Harrison Ford carried in Raiders of the Lost Ark (and I'd never butcher one in original condition), but I kind of like the short barrel and sight base, so now I'm thinking I'll just change that target sight for a gold bead.

Gary A
January 4, 2009, 07:20 PM
I know it's an old thread and I know most folks want double-action, but a Ruger Blackhawk convertible does everything I want a .45 acp revolver to do. Also the Cimarron Model P can be had with a .45 acp auxilary cylinder and so can the USFA SAA.

bluetopper
January 4, 2009, 08:52 PM
I'm really not a big Taurus fan. but these two 45acp's served me well. What I really like about them as they are K frame sized.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o182/bendebval/tauruss2.jpg

Guillermo
January 4, 2009, 09:00 PM
Mr. Revolver Guy,

She is a beauty

stevenorlando
June 15, 2010, 08:14 AM
Difficult to compare a Blackhawk with a M25 - one is SA only, the other DA/SA.
What will the revolver be used for?
JT
what is an M25?

Steve

harmon rabb
June 15, 2010, 09:06 AM
Any gun that can let me put 50 shots in a group like that at 15 yards is a keeper! Don't rule the pre-25's out, but they are expensive and pretty collectable!

holy crap nice group. remind me not to piss you off :o

Bill B.
June 15, 2010, 12:33 PM
I could not agree more. A model 25 Target 1955 just has to be in every revolver fans collection. If you ask me there is not a better 45acp revolver ever made.

I gotta agree as the S&W 1955 Target is a favorite of mine also. Got mine unfired but could not bear to keep it that way! Wonderful shooting revolver that really shines with lead handloads rather than the full metal jacket 45 ACP.

Dave T
June 15, 2010, 02:36 PM
what is an M25?

The Model 25 is an N-frame 6" or 6.5" (both barrel lengths were offered) six shot double action target revolver. It started as the Model 1950 45 Target with a 6.5" tapered barrel which in 1957 became the Model 26. In 1955, at the request of target shooters, Smith also introduce a heavy barrel version that was initially called the 45 Cal Model of 1955. It became the Model 25 in 1957.

Dave

Boxhead
June 15, 2010, 02:46 PM
I recently picked up my first DA 45 ACP, a S&W M25-2. Beautifully put together and still available at relatively decent prices given the quality.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1055658/M25-2andBFR017.JPG

ClemY
June 15, 2010, 03:25 PM
I recently got my third .45 ACP double action revolver, a 625PC to go with my 625JM and 25-2.

Marc257
June 15, 2010, 08:03 PM
How bout the Thunder Ranch Model 22? Not here yet! Something to consider.

+1 on the TR M-22. I use one for IDPA. Love to shoot it and it shoots well. :)

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