Hawes Single Action .22 LR
WhoKnowsWho
April 7, 2003, 05:09 PM
I can't find much information about this thing. All I know is it is German, and goes by a couple of other names too.
Bought a .22 for real cheap, I can't pick it up until next week though, and would like to get some information on what I exactly bought. Since all I want it for is to go bang most of the time, I paid for it on the spot without doing my normal research, so hopefully, I didn't do to bad...
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Steven Mace
April 7, 2003, 09:16 PM
WhoKnowsWho, do you remember the specific model designation?
Steve Mace
EJ
April 7, 2003, 11:10 PM
A fine -- under rated and under priced revolver--
Manufactured in Bohn Germany by JP Saur & sons--
Imported through the sixties--
Same Saur as in Sig-Saur--
Superb barrels -- good mechanics-- Forged parts--
You done good-- ;)
WhoKnowsWho
April 8, 2003, 12:05 AM
Steven Mace: Sorry, I don't remember the specific model number.
EJ: You're making me feel better already! So I guess $85 wasn't too bad for it? (Didn't want to say the price until I had some idea if it was a lemon or not)
And it felt better than the Heritage Rough Rider... for half the price.
Hopefully it shoots well when I finally can pick it up. And I used the revolver checkup too, seemed to be okay.
EJ
April 8, 2003, 12:20 AM
They didn't really have model numbers--
They were just called different --"Marshall"s
IE --Western Marshall --Most common but center fire--
Montana Marshall, Texas Marshal, ETC ETC
I think maybe the 22 was called the Deputy Marshall -- Makes sense -- I'm not sure--
The Hawes series is better than ANY Heritage mpodel--
I think you'll be happy and plesently surprised--
Jim March
April 8, 2003, 04:14 AM
What they said :).
I don't *think* it'll have an internal safety (hammer block or transfer bar) but it might. To find out, pull the cylinder (should be a button near the center pin head that allows pulling the center ("base") pin out, then open the loading gate and it drops free. Slide the base pin back in with no cylinder, and you'll be able to see what the firing pin does (enters the frame window) as you lower the hammer with the trigger pulled or not. It'll be pretty obvious what's up. If it's a no-safety gun, cool, not a problem, carry it five-up like an old SAA. But it's best to know right off the bat what you're dealing with...on a no-safety old style gun, WATCH YOUR MUZZLE DIRECTION LIKE A HAWK WHEN LOADING/UNLOADING!!! These are where the term "going off half cocked" comes from.
It's almost certainly tough enough that you could have a gunsmith re-chamber the cylinder for 22Maggie if you want more power :). Not critical for a plinker/fun gun of course.
JoeHatley
April 8, 2003, 09:53 AM
I owned one back in the early 1980's. Bought it used for $75. It was acually a pretty well make little .22, and well worth what I paid for it.
Joe
Nick96
April 8, 2003, 11:41 PM
I've got one in .44 Mag. Though I'm uncomfortable with shooting .44 mag's out of it (only shot about 20 or so of those through it) - it's fine with .44 Spl's. As previously stated, mine is very well made. Only things that are kind of cheezy are aluminum trigger & back strap assemblies, and an aluminum push rod shroud. A lot parts are interchangable with Colt's and direct copies though. In fact, I modified a brass trigger & back strap assembly, and custom fitted a walnut stock for a CVA 1860 Colt reproduction - and it works & looks good. Also as stated, the hammer system is similar to the old original Colt's (no hammer blocking safety). Only difference is rather than the firing pin on the hammer (Colt design), this has a springed firing pin unit that screws into where the Colt's firing pin channel in the frame went. In other words, be careful loading it - and always leave the hammer down on an empty cylinder if carrying. And yours being a .22, I wouldn't dry fire it. You could damage the firing pin (slamming up against the chamber walls).
goon
April 11, 2003, 01:13 AM
My dad had a .357 Marshall back in the day that he sold to feed my when I was a baby.
He swears that it is the best gun ever made, but I haven't been able to replace it, yet.
I think that they used the old Colt style system, so carry with an empty chamber just to be safe.
Lloyd Smale
April 11, 2003, 06:11 AM
had one it was my first revolver It had a bur or something that caused to to cock hard and not lock up right. I didnt know much about guns then and had bought it cheap so I gave it to my brother in law. He had it fixed and has been using it for 20 years with not a problem.
Dennie Suman
April 11, 2003, 09:24 PM
I bought one of the .22s here in Ohio back in the late '60s-early '70s, at K-Mart, of all places! Worked pretty well. The main spring had a roller on the end that made the trigger pull very slick and light.
Loaned it to a friend while we were out plinking and within about 2 minutes he shot a hole in the ground right beside my foot!
Needless to say I got it back real quick!
No longer have the friend or the pistol, do miss the pistol a little.
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