Bolivian Election


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slzy
December 31, 2005, 12:59 PM
the new president of Bolivia is the long time head of the coca growers association,is a socialist,says he will be the US biggest nightmare,and will make his first state visit to meet Castro. as did the socialsist president of venezuela. according to fox,28 columbian soldiers were ambushed and killed by the FARC,the armed contingment of the columbian communist party. the soldiers had been securing a coca field as it was being eradicated.[wonder if the FARC was emboldend by the recent election?] Mexico will elect a new president July 2,2006. the leading candidate is closely associated with the Mexican communist party. any thoughts on these developments,as far as US immigration goes,and,did any this type of political enviroment in Soth America influence the Brazilian gun grab referendom?

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quiettype
December 31, 2005, 08:10 PM
I don't see how anybody or anything in Bolivia could be more than a miniscule annoyance to the US. We just took away all of their portable missiles.What other threat could they possibly present?

denfoote
December 31, 2005, 08:16 PM
Two Marines and a humvee could take care of Bolivia.:evil:

longeyes
December 31, 2005, 08:19 PM
What other threat could they possibly present?

Much of our hemisphere is leaning more and more to the Left. I wouldn't call that a positive development for our future. Of course if we end the WOD--good idea--we will probably only accelerate that slide leftward since most of these countries would be utter basket cases economically without their narco-dollars. We need to figure out how to shore up our own society on all levels, stay well-armed, and contain any foreign threats to our national security. My own view is that America needs to put away childish things and mobilize--if it wants to survive long-term as a free nation.

quiettype
December 31, 2005, 08:59 PM
I could'nt agree more.

Standing Wolf
December 31, 2005, 09:58 PM
...most of these countries would be utter basket cases economically without their narco-dollars.

Oh, gosh! We don't dare cancel the famous War on Some Drugs, or our neighbors to the south will have to go to bed hungry!

gc70
December 31, 2005, 10:02 PM
Let's go ahead and cancel it since they are already going to bed hungry...

SIGarmed
December 31, 2005, 10:14 PM
This guy is just another case of a leader full of hot air in regard to blaming everything on the US. He can’t very well admit that his country is screwed up from the inside. These marxists want to have a way out and blame the US for everything. Just another case of bread and circuses.

The US needs to hurry up and finish that wall.

Zundfolge
December 31, 2005, 10:44 PM
Two Marines and a humvee could take care of Bolivia.:evil:
Hell, Robert Redford and Paul Newman with a couple of single action Colts could probably take care of Bolivia :evil:

Car Knocker
January 1, 2006, 03:02 AM
Two Marines and a humvee could take care of Bolivia.:evil:

I recall a bunch of people saying essentially the same thing about Iraq a while ago.

Kodiaz
January 1, 2006, 09:20 AM
Ok I'm missing something If we cancel the WOD doesn't that mean legalization? Then their drugs will become their No. 1 export. Also WOD money only goes to those countries' power structure and does nothing for the bottom rung of the ladder. Also as far as South America voting more left what do you expect? Opportunity there, is a chance to walk to the U.S. and slip the border and walk across a desert in Arizona. I am an A/C man and once in a while I have to do new construction (hasn't happened in years thank God). I've seen kids below 18 working construction on these jobs and have spoken to them most can't read or write and really they can barely speak spanish. Where they came from there were no roads and they never saw a car or a plane until they came here. Which is why after they make enough money here to buy a nice place in their home country they never go back. They stay here working because they have no interest in going back home to live.


So suppose your an illiterate coca farmer down in Bolivia. The govt has shafted you for only God knows how long. You can't read, your kids can't read, there are no public schools. If you get sick from almost anything you die because you can't afford a doctor. So now some guy, a farmer like you a little better off but he's still a farmer, comes along talking about what's going on in Venenzuela and then he says hey look at Cuba they have problems but they're kids don't die from the Flu and if they get to the U.S. their education is so good that they can continue being a doctor or an engineer like they were in Cuba and not a laborer or a migrant farmer. So really what do you expect??

Chris Rhines
January 1, 2006, 10:47 AM
Ok I'm missing something If we cancel the WOD doesn't that mean legalization? Then their drugs will become their No. 1 export. Are you kidding me? Legalize cocaine, and the price will drop like a pair of trousers at a bordello. The Bolivians will probably have to go back to transshipping coffee and grey-market emeralds, and the drug cartels, well, they'll throw an internal hissy-fit that will make the St. Valentines Day massacre look like a BB gun war.

- Chris

utahminirevolver
January 1, 2006, 03:17 PM
Good post, longeyes.

Agreed we should stop the failed War On Drugs to take money out of the hands of criminals and terrorists. And stay well-armed to counter foreign threats, along with getting serious about our borders and enforcing existing Immigration laws. But what is 'mobilize'? Putting us all in uniform, under martial law?

We seem to be living in those 'intersting times' of the ancient Chinese curse.

slzy
January 1, 2006, 09:58 PM
are the elected officials who voted against the fence,and those who favor guest workers the useful idiots Lenin spoke of? and from what i have read of the South American and Mexican communist parties,they take a Maoist slant on Marxism,just like our strategic partner China as clinton liked to call them.

mountainclmbr
January 1, 2006, 10:24 PM
And now we have Schmucky Schumer, Hillary and that Kerry creature with visions of god-like tyranny sugarplums dancing in their heads.

kage genin
January 2, 2006, 04:02 AM
...and from what i have read of the South American and Mexican communist parties,they take a Maoist slant on Marxism,just like our strategic partner China as clinton liked to call them.

The way China is doing things is VERY different from Mexico, and I'd say much better. China has discovered and is using the gifts of capitalism, it's people are WORKING HARD to improve their country and their government is encouraging them to do so. China's economy is growing so fast they the government's greatest concern is how to SLOW IT DOWN. Can't say that about Mexico. Mexico is a screwed up sumphole, and it's encouraging it's people to LEAVE and send money back rather than fix their own country. Mexico has miles and miles of coastline and natural mineral resources. It's all wasted on the Mexican government. I have no respect at all for Mexico's government, but I have built up a kind of respect for the Chinese government. The greatest difference may be the plainest, simplest one. CHINA DOESN'T BLAME ANY OTHER COUNTRY for any of it's own problems. Yeah, there's a lot about the Chinese government I don't agree with but give me them over Mexico anytime!

IndianaDean
January 2, 2006, 04:51 AM
I'm not 100% certain, but I think Bolivia has very relaxed gun laws. I believe just about anyone there and have guns. Our military could handle them, but it might take more effort than we think.

McCall911
January 2, 2006, 06:04 AM
Quick! Name 3 famous Bolivians!

Er..well...

Okay, then...

Quick! Name 3 famous people who might be able to point out Bolivia on a map!

:D

slzy
January 3, 2006, 12:17 AM
andres obrador is the candidate for president of mexico and has been endorsed by 3 parties thus making him the favorite at this time.those parties are the labour party,and i got all this off the net,but it seems to be reliable,was founded on maoist principles,the convergence party,who describe themselves as social democrats,and the democratic revolution party,which started as part of the communist party of mexico.and today a group alined with the zapatistas started a campign trek wearing ski masks,proclaiming the enemy had many faces,but they were all capatilists.

longeyes
January 3, 2006, 12:57 AM
I have no respect at all for Mexico's government, but I have built up a kind of respect for the Chinese government. The greatest difference may be the plainest, simplest one. CHINA DOESN'T BLAME ANY OTHER COUNTRY for any of it's own problems.

China isn't Mexico, that's for sure, but let's not get TOO carried away. China's been illicitly buying technology under the table for years, finding no lack of disloyal Americans willing to sell it to them. And then there's the small matter of their egregious rip-offs of intellectual property. If there's one thing capitalism isn't supposed to be, it's theft.

slzy
January 3, 2006, 01:32 AM
Lenin always said the capatilist will sell us the very rope we hang them with.

jungle
January 3, 2006, 01:36 AM
I actually lived in Bolivia for a while. It is a beautiful country and I met many interesting people.

Their politics are some of the worst in the world and they have had more changes of leadership than any other country in the world, something like 160 in the last hundred years or so. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not far off.

What they do down there will have little effect on us, but when all of South America is going socialist(except the leaders) it doesn't bode well for their future.

Castro has collected a 500 million dollar personal fortune, Chavez is not far behind. These are men of the people just like our own lovable Kerry.

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