[280PLUS]

its here!! its here!!

this oughta be enough for a little while...:D

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=214797

[280PLUS]

left = federal hy shok .32 h&r mag 85 gr jhp
middle = georgia arms .32 h&r mag 100 gr semi jhp
right = .32 acp

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=214808

[Jim March]

Yummie :).

I thought their website claimed 1,100fps for that stuff? So you oughta get 900 or maybe even 1,000?

What's your barrel/cylinder gap like on that thing?

Something else: I've heard that 32Mag is popular in some countries that class 38Spl as a "prohibited military caliber" :rolleyes:, and that's why there's a small but steady supply of the 32Maggie guns?

[280PLUS]

i'm curious to see if they go bang any louder than the federals

:D

the gap is pretty tight, i havent actually measured it though. maybe paper thickness? i believe its well within the limits you talk about in the checkout procedure.

i'll have to see if i can find the old feeler gage and actually check it.

interesting on the .38. , hope that means the ammo demand will pick up. i just paid $0.25 per round from georgia if you include the shipping, which is down a little from $0.30 for the federals locally. meanwhile i can get 9mm for $.10 a round (reloads)

i'm gonna have to learn how to roll my own i guess.

:what:

[rock jock]

i'm curious to see if they go bang any louder than the federals
GA .32 mag ammo is significantly more stout than the Federals.

[Tamara]

It is noticeably more zesty than Federal, even in a bigger gun like a Single Six...

[Alan Fud]

Based on comments made by Jim March (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17478#post215721), I just ordered two boxes and them I saw this thread :rolleyes:

I, also, own a 332 but correctly me if I'm wrong but doesn't the ammo have to be a full-jacket? Looking at your photo, it appears to be a semi-jacket.

Is that going to be a problem for the 332? Should I cancel my order?

-- Alan Fud

PS: I'm assuming that this stuff still kicks less than .38's out of the S&W342. Is that a correct assumption to make?

[Tamara]

It only has to be jacketed on the part that engages the case; the unjacketed portion on the bullet nose has no effect on jumping crimp or bore leading or anything else...

[280PLUS]

i been shooting all kinds of non-jacketed rounds through it, federal semi wad cutters, s&w long wad cutters. my range doesnt like jacketed rounds.

did i do a bad thing?

i know the wadcutters arent quite as accurate as the hy shoks but i haven't noticed any problems, yet...:uhoh:

never had a crimp jump with it...

well, of course i learned how tough it is to clean afterward :D

i won't be able to get to these until at least saturday, but i'll be sure to file the full report, stout,,,zesty,,,this is sounding good!

:)

oh, jim, the gap is way less than a piece of paper, still havent measured though

[Jim March]

280PLUS: sounds like your gap is pretty tight! Nothing wrong with that, so long as it'll go through at least five or six cylindersful without having to wipe down the back of the barrel and front of cylinder.

See, too tight a gap, and burnt powdercrud will get into the gap and slow the cylinder's rotation. First symptom will be the trigger feeling turning really crappy :).

My personal 38 snubbie will go around 40/50 rounds before experiencing this, which I feel is fine: in exchange for having to do a wipe now and again at the range, I get improved velocity. NO problem. Other people get itchy about this and feel the gun is "not reliable enough" :rolleyes:. I disagree. You're not going to shoot 40 rounds in a gunfight with a dang SNUB.

Now, different powder compositions will "gunk up" at different rates. The Georgia Arms stuff may crud up faster or slower than the Feds. Doesn't matter, so long as it'll do 30+ rounds at a stretch. (The 30round minimum is somewhat arbitrary; I feel that much is necessary for combat reliability. And note that when it starts gunking, you can still grind it through at LEAST another five or six rounds in a pinch; although it won't be pleasant, you're not "totally disarmed".)

As to jacketed rounds at the range: ehh...WHY do they set that limit?

In CAS/SASS shooting, it's for safety - they shoot at hanging steel plates and don't want hard ammo bouncing back onto bystanders. (They also limit velocity for the same reason, sub-1,000fps is the rule.)

If that's not what's up, they fear damage to the backstop materials (jacketed often punch deeper). But let's face it, this is potent enough for defense but it's no rip-snortin' demon either!

Plus, the GA load has an exposed lead nose to enhance expansion...that factor will reduce damage to steel deflector-plate backstops if that's what's up.

Upshot: look at the backstop. If it's VERTICAL flat steel (hanging or otherwise), then ya, your GA loads may be a problem. But that's unusual. For anything else, they'll prolly be fine.

Alan Fud: no, the GA ammo will be just fine in your gun. The load has some exposed lead at the nose to make expansion happen faster, which is fine (esp. for 2" barrel guns!). But that exposed lead doesn't affect the round jumping crimp, or cause barrel leading as the exposed lead is NOT in contact with the barrel. If the gun says "jacketed only", the GA load is fully compatible with your gun. Enjoy. At present, it appears to be the best load available.

[280PLUS]

i haven't had any problems with buildup in the gap yet, but thats good info to have, i think i put at least forty through last saturday of the semi wadcutters and it was ok,

i have had problems with crudding up the chambers shooting .32 longs so that i couldnt get the carry rounds back in without forcing them, which i won't do.

plenty of work to clean THAT up, let me tell you. i dont shoot those anymore.

as for jacketed rounds, they claim it's because the jackets have splashed back in the past and cut people.

at first i was told the backstop wouldn't handle it and there was some mechanism that traps the rounds and it doesn't like jackets.
i offered to beef up a couple of ports for them, thats when they came up with the backsplash story.

so who knows,,,

the plates are set atan angle to deflect the rounds upward into the trap. its supposed to be some kind of rotating barrel with lubricant inside. it's supposed to spin as the round travels around it inside of it and absorb the inertia of the round.

been back there, never seen nothing all fancy like that...:rolleyes:

:D

[Jim March]

Quoting:

i have had problems with crudding up the chambers shooting .32 longs so that i couldnt get the carry rounds back in without forcing them, which i won't do.

Ah. Ya, that's a different issue.

There's a possible safety problem there. The 32Maggie ammo will have a fairly heavy crimp at the end of the shell; the "crimp" is where the shell brass is "folded" at the end to hold the round until firing.

Well, if that "crud buildup" ahead of the 32S&W or whatever shells is heavy enough, it can prevent the magnum-length shells from UNcrimping on firing. This raises chamber pressures and under very extreme circumstances can cause a K-boom :eek:.

Lesson: if you shoot the short stuff, clean it at least moderately well before firing magnums. This applies to the 38/357 people, those shooting 44Spls in 44Mags, etc.

[Kentucky Rifle]

I called Smith & Wesson for something and they told me the "no lead thing" didn't apply to the .32 mag. I don't think the recoil is enough to "uncrimp" lead bullets.

KR

[280PLUS]

if you're forcing something, it just ain't right. first rule of mechanicdom. mechanicism? (not get a bigger hammer)

no, i know we don't want the pricey gun to disintegrate before our eyes, much less take any body parts with it, i've become fond of mine, i'd like to keep them a while longer, at least till i'm through with them,,,:rolleyes:

and thanx to kentucky for easin' my worried mind.

does anyone know the story of no lead guns and why, what ones?

nope, i haven't had one crimp problem with it.

:D :

[Kentucky Rifle]

I like the .32 H&R magnum in these AirLite revolvers. (I don't like pain.)

KR