Help a newbie decide between two?


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studentinohio
January 3, 2006, 10:03 PM
Hi all,

After weeks of reading this forum, I thought I would post a thread seeking some advice and opinion. Right now I am looking at purchasing my first pistol. As my first, I would like it to fit as many roles as possible (home, range, carry, etc.) After weeks of reading forums, opinions, and of course visiting the local shops and ranges, I have it narrowed down to two - the Sig 239 (9mm) and CZ 75 Compact (9mm). The Sig is used, with holster wear on the slide and only one mag. The CZ would be NIB. They would be roughly the same price. I love the feel of the CZ, amazing. If I carry, there is no doubt the Sig would fit better on my 5'5'' frame. I am looking for the most bang for my buck, something I will enjoy for a long, long time.

Any thoughts? Thank you.

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Flashpoint
January 3, 2006, 10:16 PM
I would go with the CZ Compact. I had a P239 and I don't think it would carry that much better then the Sig to sacrifice the capacity. They're both work horses and you've stated that you I love the feel of the CZ. Plus the CZ can be carried in single action.

david_the_greek
January 3, 2006, 10:55 PM
I was also in your situation when buying my first pistol. all my initial handgun shooting was done with top of the line hand guns. (kimber gold, browning HP, Sig) but when it came time to break away from my fathers guns and buy my own I was in a conundrum. I wanted a Browning HP. couldn't find a private seller. I found a private seller for a sig 226 and a cz pcr. I went with the CZ because it fit my hands so much better than the sig. I liked the sig and it most definately has alot of cool factor but the CZ just seemed like a better gun for me I could shoot better with the cz 75 than with the sig (a 228 or 229 though). The PCR is just gorgeous. It is light and fairly compact as well. Infact it is conceiled in my trousers right now as I am trying to figure out how long till my father notices and wants to run off to the range. I just picked it up today and am glad I picked it over the sig. Thanks to a fellow THRer "brad". Go with the CZ if it feels better because you'll probably shoot it better since 99% of shooters are not as accurate as their guns anyways. Good luck with that hard choice (easy once you feel that CZ hit your hand though...)

GoBrush
January 3, 2006, 11:27 PM
Since joining THR I have heard lots of talk about the CZ cant say I have ever seen one and know I have never shot one. Lots of people here think they are the best thing since sliced bread. I really need to check one out and see what the craz is all about they sound interesting.

With that said I own 2 Sig 239's one in 40S&W and one in 9mm love both of them and they have opperated flawlessly. I like the fact they are single stack magazines because they are easy to conceal. I am able to get very tight groups out of both of them. I know you would not go wrong with the 239 but just dont know anything about CZ to make a fair assesment. One question you may ask is how easy is it to get parts for CZ if you need them. I cant answer the same question about Sig because I have never needed parts for the 2 I have.

Good Luck

Werewolf
January 3, 2006, 11:35 PM
You'll get more bang for the buck with the CZ. Just as accurate as the SIG (actually more accurate IMO) and it'll be new.

OTOH in my experience the SIG will always - ALWAYS - go bang every time you pull the trigger. As good as CZ's are of the two I own one failed at right around 1000 rounds. The trigger locked up - hard. It was my carry gun. I function check my carry gun regularly. It scared the fecal matter right out of me when I checked it and it had failed for no apparent reason and I had been carrying it like that for the previous two days. I haven't packed a CZ since (they've been relegated to IPSC and range guns). I have no qualms about carrying my SIG.

kahr404life
January 3, 2006, 11:35 PM
CZ is a go!:D

Brian41
January 4, 2006, 12:10 AM
CZ!!!! one word (hypehnated) cocked-n-locked

Woody_in_MN
January 4, 2006, 12:28 AM
Student,

This is turning out pretty one sided. But of the two I'd go CZ 75 compact - but go with the black finish, or nickel - not the blue. The blue does not last as long. However, the Sig may retain its value better if you decide to sell.

I've shot Sig's but never owned one. I have owned several CZ's. My current CZ pistol is a 40P. It seems like all the CZ pistols are very accurate - even the little RAMI I had with a short barrel. Even that RAMI was very accurate.

However, I have another option for you. I am selling a like new Daewoo DH40 for $300 plus shipping. The Daewoo has a great trigger and is quite accurate. 40sw is a great caliber for defense. The only down side I can see is that the Daewoo is not as well known as some of the other manufacturers.

http://home.comcast.net/~bkail/dh40_1.jpg

If you are interested in that, send me a PM or email.

- w
bkail@comcast.net

el44vaquero
January 4, 2006, 01:23 AM
I'd vote for the SIG.

david_the_greek
January 4, 2006, 02:41 AM
Like Everyone here has said, both pistols are great. I love the little pcr I just bought but to tell you the truth I still wish I could find a high power ..... sigh.... Its the original and its most definately tried and proven. I seriously doubt that any other pistol (automatic atleast but probably revolver as well) in the history of warfare has seen so much use and been such a great performer. You would need a good holster to CCW though. They are top notch at the range and they hold their value. period. If you can save up the money (its a little more but its worth it) go for a Browning HP. It is high cap, has great ergonomic, looks sweet, shoots sweet, holds its value, has historical significance, and is steel. Steel is real (all those who bicycle as well as shoot will know what I mean). IMHO the BHP is the best. The CZ feels like a little less than the HP and the sig is cool too. It unfortunately was not my first choice after shooting it. I was kinda disappointed because they look so cool but I'm just not as capable with them.

studentinohio
January 4, 2006, 02:54 AM
I wanted to thank everyone for your opinions and suggestions. Since I am new to this, the only thing I know for sure is to ask people like yourselves who are much more experienced. Tomorrow I will hopefully return with that new CZ!

Thanks again!

armoredman
January 4, 2006, 12:54 PM
Way to go - CZ rocks!:cool:

studentinohio
January 15, 2006, 06:57 PM
All I have to say is thanks to those who recommended the CZ. I took it to the range yesterday and put 200 rounds of Blazer Brass through it, and some Cor-Bon JHP's. There was not a single glitch or malfunction. As for accuracy, it was way more accurate than I am, since the only rounds that didnt go into the bulls eye were the ones I knew I flintched or made some error on.

I do have one more question for those who have CZ'z, is the finish on the mags and mag well normally easily worn? After the 200 rounds, there are several places where the blue wore off on the mags, as well as scratches and wear on the front and back of the inside of the mag well. Is this normal?

Shear_stress
January 15, 2006, 07:05 PM
I am a big CZ fan, so I am glad you are happy with your decision. Nothing against Sigs, however.

I do have one more question for those who have CZ'z, is the finish on the mags and mag well normally easily worn?

The finish should wear in a couple of key contact points. I wouldn't worry about it.

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