[SilentStalker]

I have found a CZ 75B 9mm in great shape with 2 mags for $299. Is this a good deal or bad one? The only downside to this gun is that it has a blued finish which supposedly does not hold up as well as the other options. Should I take it or leave it?

[Seven High]

Are the magazines 10 round ones or standard capacity?

[Janitor]

$299 is a good price if the pistol is in excellent condition. The standard capacity (15 round) magazines shouldn't cost that much on today's market if the included ones are only 10 rounders, but it will probably be at least $40 for a couple of them.

A new 75B with two 15 round magazines should be just under $400 if you shopped around.

Is it a blued, or a poly finish?
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[Woody_in_MN]

$300 - $325

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[armoredman]

Buy.

[SilentStalker]

$299 is a good price if the pistol is in excellent condition. The standard capacity (15 round) magazines shouldn't cost that much on today's market if the included ones are only 10 rounders, but it will probably be at least $40 for a couple of them.

A new 75B with two 15 round magazines should be just under $400 if you shopped around.

Is it a blued, or a poly finish?
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From the pics, it looks like it is a blued finish but I could be wrong. I will find out more details today when I call about it. Thank you for everyone's help. Well, just found out it is blued. I think I will go ahead and get this thing sometimes in the next week. However, there is a gun show coming to town this weekend and I am wondering if I should hold off until then.

[Moonclip]

I saw one at $329 today and passed. Ok but not a steal as a new one goes around $400.

[AirPower]

Is there such a thing as a CZ75A? How's it different?

[Rube]

According to my reference, the CZ75 was designed in 1975 (imagine that), and the CZ75B came out in 1994 featuring pinned front sight, commander hammer, non glare ribbed barrel, and squared trigger guard.
Rube

[kent m. lane]

Thy were also the older ones dry fired 10,000 in some type of oil I have a cz75 with no import markings and it is stainless steel. The price is very good, about the the finish just like my sig p220 I live in fl. always hot and humid it stays in the A/C over oiled, I should of bought the K- Kote for a little more but one thinks when you pay over 700 bucks for a combat pistol it should not rust so easy.:mad: about my Sig every thig else is good with the gun, it is the cleanest shooting gun I have fire it 500 rounds take it apart ans it has very little residue.

[Cawdor]

More on the CZ 75 (http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg51-e.htm).

[Walt Sherrill]

The current gun is called a "B" model. It has a firing pin block, hence the 75B designation.

Folks call the older CZs "A" models, but that's not really a CZ designation.

If you've found a pre-B model in great shape for around $300, its a good buy.

The only problem with older pre-Bs is finding magazines that work -- as only true, older factory mags work well.

Try the trigger. I'll bet its very good.

Blued models exist, but are rare. The oldest ones have an enamel finish, which transitioned to a polycoat, which is very durable. You'll find a few that have been parkerized, along the way, too.

Check the CZ Forum for more info. http://p201.ezboard.com/bczechpistols82792

[SilentStalker]

The current gun is called a "B" model. It has a firing pin block, hence the 75B designation.

Folks call the older CZs "A" models, but that's not really a CZ designation.

If you've found a pre-B model in great shape for around $300, its a good buy.

The only problem with older pre-Bs is finding magazines that work -- as only true, older factory mags work well.

Try the trigger. I'll bet its very good.

Blued models exist, but are rare. The oldest ones have an enamel finish, which transitioned to a polycoat, which is very durable. You'll find a few that have been parkerized, along the way, too.

Check the CZ Forum for more info. http://p201.ezboard.com/bczechpistols82792

So you are saying that blued model CZ75's are rare?? This is a blued model for $299, so um your saying that this is a rare gun at a decent price?? It is interesting because I thought that people were saying to avoid the blued CZ75B's which made it sound like they had a crappy finish and were commonplace. However, you just stated that this finish on this gun is rare. I am lost now LOL which is it?

[Walt Sherrill]

Rare doesn't always mean more valuable, more desirable, or more collectible. Sometimes it just means "less common." If you like blued guns, go for it.

The newer CZs with a high-gloss blued finish are very attractive.

Blued guns are harder to keep looking nice than other finishes, but if you don't mind...

The gun in question may have been refinished.

(I have had a couple of pre-Bs but have not encountered a blued one; the ones I've seen that were blued were refinished; I couldn't guess as to whether the one in question is a factory finish or not.)

If you want to know if its a pre-B or not, the easist way to check is to see if there's a roll pin through the slide just about the safety. (If so, that's a firing pin retention roll pin, and its a "B" gun.) If there's no roll pin, then you should see a firing pin stop (a plate) around the firing pin, under the hammer.

Either way, it should prove to be a good solid gun, and a good price if in top shape, whether a "B" or pre-B.

[Navy87Guy]

I think somewhere along the way we crossed the discussion of the CZ 75B with the history of the CZ 75.

The original post specified a CZ 75B...that's a "modern" gun. The discussion about the older CZ 75 came up because someone asked about 75A.

The gun you described is probably a CZ 75B with the polycoat finish. It looks "blued" but when you hold it you can see it's an exterior coating. It's not evident from photos.

I seriously doubt anyone is offering a blued CZ 75 in excellent condition for $299.

I'd still take the CZ 75B for that price...expecially if it really is in excellent condtion. Those guns can stand up to a lot and you'd save yourself $100 with nothing really to lose.

Just my $0.02...

Jim

[Shootcraps]

Wait for the gun show. I bought a NIB CZ75 PCR for $329 last weekend. All of the CZ75xx models were that price from this vendor. Came with two 14-round mags. Love shooting it.

[tvick66]

Hello Silent,
I got my first CZ and 9mm, a P-01, in April and I love it. It shoots really well and I let new shooters learn with it because it makes a marginal shooter feel like an expert. Since then I have been looking at the CZ 75B. Academy has them new with standard 15 rnd mags for $389 which is an ok price. If you pass on this one, would you mind letting me know where you found it, I may be interested:) Unless it is at Gun Cellar.

[Litlman]

I paid for 350 for my 75 compact used with 3 high caps. I wanted it! I paid 339 for my 75 BD NIB. Gander Mt. had a NIB 75 BD for 349 the other day.

[briang2ad]

Stalker: Walt is the expert. But here is my two cents...

$300 is a very good price if in excellent shape, but hear me out.

High Gloss blue CZs are definitely out there, but in small numbers. They are very handsome guns - I have a Compact like that. If it is blue, and it is a B model, it will be in HIGH GLOSS - very different from the polycoat.

Recently I have seen some CZs go for VERY good prices new. USUALLY a NIB CZ 75B goes for about $400. But... I saw a few recently for less than $350. I think these may be some distributors inventory that was "sold off". I have seen Compacts also at great prices. But, this is not the norm.

Try the trigger! If it is very good, it will probably be a great gun. If you don't plan to beat it around, the blue finish is excellent.