(Boston) New ‘gun court’ to hear firearms cases only


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Desertdog
January 6, 2006, 03:08 PM
which would provide a judge that deals only with cases involving firearms violence, Most of the items quoted in the story are simple possession, not violence. Just think how they could reduce their police work by making firearms legal. Catch someone with a gun, check to see if it is stolen, turn the person loose. No paper work or court appearence.

New ‘gun court’ to hear firearms cases only
By Michele McPhee/ Herald Exclusive
http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=119966

Gun cases will now be prosecuted in a court session dedicated exclusively to firearms prosecutions after Suffolk County District Attorney Dan Conley hammered out a deal with the Boston Municipal Court Chief justice, several sources told the Herald.

Conley is slated to meet with Chief Justice Charles Johnson this morning to solidify the plans for the gun court, which would provide a judge that deals only with cases involving firearms violence, the sources said.

“It’s a done deal,” said one law enforcement source.

Conley would not comment about the gun court yesterday, other than to say prior meetings have been very productive. Conley has been pushing for the gun court for months, as the city marked its highest body count in a decade.

Last year, the number of people busted with illegal guns jumped 40 percent, with 751 suspects arrested from Jan. 1 to Dec. 29, according to Boston police statistics. During the same period in 2004, 538 people were busted with illicit firearms.

Boston cops also recovered 890 illegal firearms, including 14 that were used in homicides. Of those guns, 74 were “found” weapons, or believed to be stash guns — a staggering 196 percent jump over the same period in 2004 when BPD only recovered 25 “found guns.”

Investigators believe more thugs are using these so-called “community guns,” which are stashed around neighborhoods and in homes, borrowed for a shooting, and returned. Community gun cases are difficult to prosecute.

On Tuesday, two men were arrested for carrying loaded handguns by Boston cops. In Roxbury, Edwin Jones, 20, was spotted in the area of Warren and Waumbeck streets carrying a loaded .32 caliber handgun.

An hour later, police found a man riding in the back seat of a car that ran a stop sign; in the vehicle, police say, they found another loaded .32 caliber handgun.

This week, Boston police Commissioner Kathleen O’Toole urged mothers to turn in their children if they are carrying guns.

“We need to get the message out that they can possibly save their child’s life by working with us,” O’Toole told the Herald last week.“There is no question about it, we are concerned about the increase in gun violence.”

Last year, more than 338 Bostonians were hit by gunfire. Of those victims, 51 died and another 287 were seriously wounded, many handicapped for life.

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gc70
January 6, 2006, 03:17 PM
338 Bostonians were hit by gunfire
51 died
287 were seriously woundedI suppose there are no "minor" wounds in Boston.

Standing Wolf
January 6, 2006, 04:13 PM
There is no question about it, we are concerned about the increase in gun violence.

Yep. No question about it: the city of Boston still hasn't figured out the obvious fact that violent crime is cause by criminals, not guns.

You couldn't pay me to live in such a socialist hell hole.

odysseus
January 6, 2006, 04:23 PM
And they have plans also to spend more taxpayers money on vehicular violence courts, and blunt weapon courts too.

:barf:

What a waste of time.

Camp David
January 6, 2006, 04:23 PM
I like this part=>

"Investigators believe more thugs are using these so-called “community guns,” which are stashed around neighborhoods and in homes, borrowed for a shooting, and returned. Community gun cases are difficult to prosecute."

Community Guns?

"Hey man... can I borrow the Uzi tonight... I promise to return it..."

Massachusetts is so hopelessly socialist and off-the-wall stupid that I wonder why anyone would choose to live there!

Manedwolf
January 6, 2006, 04:40 PM
Most of the items quoted in the story are simple possession, not violence. Just think how they could reduce their police work by making firearms legal. Catch someone with a gun, check to see if it is stolen, turn the person loose. No paper work or court appearence.

New ‘gun court’ to hear firearms cases only
By Michele McPhee/ Herald Exclusive
http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=119966

Gun cases will now be prosecuted in a court session dedicated exclusively to firearms prosecutions after Suffolk County District Attorney Dan Conley hammered out a deal with the Boston Municipal Court Chief justice, several sources told the Herald.

Conley is slated to meet with Chief Justice Charles Johnson this morning to solidify the plans for the gun court, which would provide a judge that deals only with cases involving firearms violence, the sources said.

“It’s a done deal,” said one law enforcement source.

Conley would not comment about the gun court yesterday, other than to say prior meetings have been very productive. Conley has been pushing for the gun court for months, as the city marked its highest body count in a decade.

Last year, the number of people busted with illegal guns jumped 40 percent, with 751 suspects arrested from Jan. 1 to Dec. 29, according to Boston police statistics. During the same period in 2004, 538 people were busted with illicit firearms.

Boston cops also recovered 890 illegal firearms, including 14 that were used in homicides. Of those guns, 74 were “found” weapons, or believed to be stash guns — a staggering 196 percent jump over the same period in 2004 when BPD only recovered 25 “found guns.”

Investigators believe more thugs are using these so-called “community guns,” which are stashed around neighborhoods and in homes, borrowed for a shooting, and returned. Community gun cases are difficult to prosecute.

On Tuesday, two men were arrested for carrying loaded handguns by Boston cops. In Roxbury, Edwin Jones, 20, was spotted in the area of Warren and Waumbeck streets carrying a loaded .32 caliber handgun.

An hour later, police found a man riding in the back seat of a car that ran a stop sign; in the vehicle, police say, they found another loaded .32 caliber handgun.

This week, Boston police Commissioner Kathleen O’Toole urged mothers to turn in their children if they are carrying guns.

“We need to get the message out that they can possibly save their child’s life by working with us,” O’Toole told the Herald last week.“There is no question about it, we are concerned about the increase in gun violence.”

Last year, more than 338 Bostonians were hit by gunfire. Of those victims, 51 died and another 287 were seriously wounded, many handicapped for life.


Here's an idea. If a criminal is caught with an illegal gun, put the CRIMINAL away, not the gun? You know, if they got one illegally, they'll just get another?

How stupid can these people be? How stupid?

Igloodude
January 6, 2006, 04:41 PM
And how much do you want to bet that the judge on that court is going to be the most hoplophobic "tough-on-crime" judge they can find in all of Massachusetts?

I suppose, on the upside, that perhaps they'll simply enforce existing gun laws rather than trying to pass more useless restrictions. Wait, nevermind, this is Mass we're talking about here. :banghead:

Manedwolf
January 6, 2006, 04:43 PM
And how much do you want to bet that the judge on that court is going to be the most hoplophobic "tough-on-crime" judge they can find in all of Massachusetts?

I suppose, on the upside, that perhaps they'll simply enforce existing gun laws rather than trying to pass more useless restrictions. Wait, nevermind, this is Mass we're talking about here. :banghead:

MA's weapons laws are simple: Only criminals are armed.

Women who walk alone to work/school/etc even have to get a concealed permit to carry pepper spray to prevent being raped.

But penalties for illegally carrying AND using an illegal weapon (for repeat offenders, at that) can be summed up as "revolving door".

What's wrong with this picture?

tuna
January 6, 2006, 05:34 PM
I remember seeing in the paper once where someone was arrested (can't remember just what for) and had an unlicensed firearm. Fine was $25, my permit cost $35!!!! ***? (permit is now $100 - fine is probably down to a quarter)


.....where's the smiley with blood shooting out of its ears?

Spot77
January 6, 2006, 05:37 PM
[QUOTE]["Hey man... can I borrow the Uzi tonight... I promise to return it..."/QUOTE]


Of course proper etiquette dictates that you return it with fresh ammo and lightly oiled.

lbmii
January 6, 2006, 06:20 PM
Community Crime Weapons, even the crooks in Boston are a bunch of Pinkos.

CAS700850
January 6, 2006, 06:41 PM
Wait a minute...set up a court specifically aimed at only gun crimes. I assume they mean crimes committed using guns, and possibly illegal possession and/or illegal gun cases. AS a prosecutor, I often need to handle and test evidence for work purposes. Sounds to me like I need to get that job. Shoot other people's guns while getting paid to do it. yeah, right. :barf:

I handle plenty of gun cases now just fine through a regular court. Don't need a special court. Waste of money. Unless it's paid to me. :D

taliv
January 6, 2006, 07:08 PM
you know... the community gun concept might not be a bad idea. i wonder if we could make that work

Waitone
January 6, 2006, 07:44 PM
How is it a gun will speak with its lawyer?

Ripley's needs to be in court. Might get to see an inanimate object carry on a conversation. :D

hammer4nc
January 6, 2006, 08:32 PM
Now we see how the federal "Project Safe Neighborhoods" concept has metasticized...I guarantee the "gun court" will deal 99% with illegal possession cases (passive, paper violations), as opposed to actual violence. Who wants to bet this gun court is funded by federal grants? Right now, ATF wastes the bulk of their resources prosecuting felon in possession cases (passive, paper violations). All under the misnamed umbrella of "gun violence". Words have no meaning.

Turkey Creek
January 6, 2006, 08:35 PM
Specialized firearms court?- is this anything related to Kangaroo court? :neener:

Desertdog
January 6, 2006, 10:09 PM
you know... the community gun concept might not be a bad idea. i wonder if we could make that work
Sounds good to me.

Ryder
January 6, 2006, 10:22 PM
Last year, more than 338 Bostonians were hit by gunfire. Of those victims, 51 died and another 287 were seriously wounded, many handicapped for life.

Less than one per day in a city of how many millions of people? Wow! I had no idea Boston was so safe. Still wouldn't go there though. Might end up in jaywalking court or something.

Crosshair
January 7, 2006, 02:29 AM
I think I have a use for those "Liberator" Pistols. Make a few thousand and air drop them over Boston. My guess is that the crime rate would not increase significantly, just the number of crimes commited with a gun. BTW, don't include the instructions with the gun, let them figure out how to load it.:D

Kaylee
January 7, 2006, 02:54 AM
As I recall, the authorities in Boston have something of a tradition regarding collecting up private citizen's arms. :scrutiny:

It never ceases to boggle my mind how the place that was once a hotbed of Liberty has become such an authoritarian cesspool.

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