a question of range etiquette...


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ziadel
January 6, 2006, 04:05 PM
ok, so new years day, we're at the gun club, we're the only ones on the ranges, and the only other person there was the club president who was plowing out the club roads (but was not plowing at the time, he was in the club house doing something)

but anywho, so we get to the rifle range, I unload my CETME and goto work just letting loose as fast as I can... and we all start hooting and hollering, becaue its new years, and well, we were just happy to be there...

keep in mind, there is NO one else on the firing range,, ANY of the firing ranges...

so the club president comes up in his truck, and says, "What's all the hollering about" and we just told him, eh, we're just having a good time and he replies, "oh, cause one of the neighbors just called, they thought someone was shot" and we were like oh really, and he goes, "no, I'm just kidding"


anyways, does this seem like a REALLY stupid thing for someone to say, especially the club president? I don't think it was really funny at all, and I KNOW the neighbors were not bothered because the only neighbor in earshot of the club is my aunt, who actually looks forward to the ridiculously loud rapid firing as a sign of my impending arrival.


thoughts anyone?

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ziadel
January 6, 2006, 04:07 PM
oh, and I wasnt bump firing, just ripping loose shooting in a sighted position at a IDPA silhouette at 50 yards.

fluffygrrl
January 6, 2006, 04:14 PM
well, hooting and hollering while letting loose can be as distastefull as someone was shot jokes. i guess you deserve each other.

Pilgrim
January 6, 2006, 04:16 PM
I suppose gun club presidents are entitled to a certain degree of restraint and maturity on the firing lines.

Pilgrim

ziadel
January 6, 2006, 04:16 PM
well, hooting and hollering while letting loose can be as distastefull as someone was shot jokes. i guess you deserve each other.



like I said, range was empty, ALL ranges were empty, I wouldnt hoot and holler or blast off the CETME like that with other people around.

Rembrandt
January 6, 2006, 04:17 PM
I unload my CETME and goto work just letting loose as fast as I can... and we all start hooting and hollering....

If a person has tatoo on their forehead and dances around naked, people are probably going to stop and look......I'd say you drew attention to yourselves, and got it.

ziadel
January 6, 2006, 04:20 PM
I'm not saying we did'nt give him a reason to investigate, it's jsut the 'somebody got shot comment' comment that has me miffed.


oh, and the gun club is gated, you cant get in without a magnetic access card.

Pilgrim
January 6, 2006, 04:24 PM
I would say you are working on a reputation in the gun club you won't be proud of.

Pilgrim

f4t9r
January 6, 2006, 04:34 PM
I would say act the same at the gun range if anybody else is there or not , you never know who is watching . maybe its guys who get a laugh or some new kid who is watching somebody act silly.
You know when you make alot of noise you are going to draw attention.

ka50
January 6, 2006, 04:46 PM
holler back woo-woo :neener:

lycanthrope
January 6, 2006, 06:20 PM
Sounds like dry humor.

I thought it was kind of funny.

tuna
January 6, 2006, 06:27 PM
Maybe the pres. was trying to tactfully tell you to knock the crap off, without saying so directly. It may have been something to get you thinking that maybe a neighbor COULD call in something like that, and cause a hassle for the whole range.

We all know that it only takes one idiot to ruin things for everyone, so while you weren't REALLY doing anything wrong, you were acting kinda idiotic.

ball3006
January 6, 2006, 06:27 PM
What was the pres going to plant?......chris3

Nio
January 6, 2006, 06:46 PM
I'd have taken that as a nice way of him telling you to knock it down a notch.

Nio

MrTwigg
January 6, 2006, 06:50 PM
What was the pres going to plant?......chris3


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Horakster
January 6, 2006, 06:53 PM
I'd like to echo what Tuna said. I think the Pres was doing a good job of telling you to quite making a fool of yourself. The only reason you got "miffed" was that you knew he was right.

also, the Pres wasn't plowing the dirt (this is January!), I'm thinking he was probably clearing snow. Let me guess, you're from the south:D ?

Snagglepuss
January 6, 2006, 07:08 PM
Wouldn't have bothered me in the least. Just dry humor and a chance to talk with someone.;)

bosshoff
January 6, 2006, 07:09 PM
Why don't you go back and ASK him why he said this, and straighten it out yourself. That would be the best way I can think of to iron out any hard feelings, and keeping yourself from gaining some weirdo reputation.

Wllm. Legrand
January 6, 2006, 08:46 PM
The club's president has a dry wit, and was telling you that you were acting foolishly.

We had some fool "hootin' and hollerin', actually kids with him were doing so. We (the others on the range) thought that someone HAD been shot. We collectively told him to knock that crap off, as it was unnerving the other members. Plus, no matter where you go, you need to keep your kids under control.

That was immature behavior on your part. You have no cause whatsover to get ruffled over the president. Go to a sports bar and watch some football game on a Sunday and do that, not at a gun range.

The advice about always act as if someone may watching was very good.

trickyasafox
January 6, 2006, 08:52 PM
i thought he response was funny too. and to be honest i probably woulda been a bit of a smart ass too:) not that you were doing anything wrong, just humour is a good way to start conversation.

ziadel
January 6, 2006, 08:55 PM
ok, again, the only neighbor in earshot was my aunt, who is actually a bit moffed over what he said too....

also, THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE AT THE CLUB, no one to disturb, I'm getting the feeling you guys think I would have acted that way no matter what, but like I said, we were the only ones there, there was no one else to bother.



also, I dont really mind having the reputation for being a weirdo, because, well, I am a weirdo.

trickyasafox
January 6, 2006, 09:05 PM
i think he said it because you were the only one there. i said i didnt think you were in the wrong, i think he did it for teh conversation. he was probably bored. probably not a lot of traffic on new years day and he just was sayin hi in a dry way. i wouldnt have taken it personal, just seen how his day was going or shot back a round of my own dry sarcasm:)

Mal H
January 6, 2006, 09:07 PM
Gotta say I agree with what the pres did. He might have thought someone had gotten hurt himself and he said a neighbor thought someone had been shot just paraphrasing his own thoughts. The fact that he drove to the range to see what had happened shows his concern.

You've said several times in various ways, "THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE AT THE CLUB, no one to disturb". Not true, the president was there and it sounds like he was semi-worried about what had transpired at the range.

Let me hasten to add, I don't see anything wrong with blasting away, but it was probably the hollering that got the attention.

Wllm. Legrand
January 6, 2006, 09:25 PM
also, I dont really mind having the reputation for being a weirdo, because, well, I am a weirdo.

Let me guess..you're under 26 years of age.

Having a good reputation, or a reputation of good values shared by others, is something that is of value to mature people. "Not minding" about having the reputation of a weirdo is contrary to this way of thinking.

I hope you are being sarcastic.

ARperson
January 6, 2006, 10:07 PM
Sounds like dry humor.

I thought it was kind of funny.


Me too.

Of course, I wouldn't think it was funny as he was saying it. But I would probably laugh about it shortly thereafter. Then again, I used to be a very "serious" personality and had real trouble laughing at myself. Still not as "loose" as I should be, but I'm getting better.

Likely the Prez was just poking fun at a bunch of adults cavorting about like kids. At least he didn't end the fun for the day because he's a stick in the mud.

garrett1955
January 6, 2006, 10:31 PM
I think you are very lucky to have a pres. that will allow rapid fire and hollering. the local range wont let us even think about shooting more than one round per 30 seconds. so we drive an hour to the good range when my friend is gone being a marine. usuialy we shoot at his property and do what we want.

f4t9r
January 7, 2006, 01:24 AM
ok, again, the only neighbor in earshot was my aunt, who is actually a bit moffed over what he said too....

also, THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE AT THE CLUB, no one to disturb, I'm getting the feeling you guys think I would have acted that way no matter what, but like I said, we were the only ones there, there was no one else to bother.



also, I dont really mind having the reputation for being a weirdo, because, well, I am a weirdo.

no matter what are opinions are , you are not going to change your thinking (we know you were the only one at the range and your Aunt is the neighbor) You see no wrong sooooo lets move on !!!!!!!

beaucoup ammo
January 7, 2006, 01:50 PM
Although some idiots might deserve his uncompromising approach!


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GRB
January 8, 2006, 12:11 AM
Ziadel,

I get the distinct impression you had a range official who was quite concerned when he heard all that rapid firing immediately followed by hooting and hollering. It is quite possible that this rather unorthodox behavior on a (private or public firearms range that is open either to memers or to the public) had him concrened. One of his concerns may well have been that someone had just been shot therefore the hooting and holering asfter the shoting. maybe he thought there was even a shootout. He then has the unmitigated audacity or should I just not be sarcastic and say what I am really thinking - he was concerned enough and was brave enough to check this out. When he arrives he probably realizes that all is ok. He asks about the shooting and hollering to be certain all is ok, and not wanting to seem like a worrying old ninny or fool he adds on that a neighbor of the range called in a silly complaint (that may have been based on his actual initial fear of someone being injured). Then he immediately says this was a joke because he does not really want to lie. Of course I could have it all wrong, maybe he was just being humourous because he was nervous over how to handle a situation where grown men had firearms and were hooting and hollering like a bunch of maniacal wildmen - maybe he felt humor the best way to keeps things calm as he approached an uncertain situation. If you find this range official's actions, or statements, are in any way offensive put yourself in his shoes as being responsible for what goes on at the range and then having to investigate the scene as you described it. He may not have the people handling skills of a public relations expert but, I think he took the responsibility of properly responding to and investigating what many may believe to have been rather irresponsible behavior on the part of you and your friends.

I think it pretty audacious on your part to be upset with anything the range official did. The only really questionable behavior at the range that day seems to be that of you and your friends. Had you not acted the way you did, no one would have come to check it out in the first place. Please do not bother responding that no one else was at the range. It does notmatter if there was a hundred other shooters there, if there were 50 neighbors nearby, or not. You actions were what mattered. Your actions were, in my opinion, irresponsible. All factors considered as you described them - that is it plain and simple.

Blue Jays
January 8, 2006, 01:46 AM
Hi All-

Hootin' and hollerin' while shooting firearms is silly and immature behavior that can occasionally be attributed to alcohol consumption. I'm betting that the Range President doesn't particularly care whether the dear sweet aunt is the neighbor, anyway.

It is my belief that he successfully used humor and restraint in a good way to inform some kids to knock it off with the shouting and to also determine if any drinking was taking place.

~ Blue Jays ~

psyopspec
January 8, 2006, 01:54 AM
The comment made by the presidente was not funny, but it wasn't that big of a deal, either.

beaucoup ammo
January 8, 2006, 10:29 AM
We need to Follow The Rules regardless.

Ever been in the country..on a flat stretch..stopped at a red light.. remote intersection with nothing for miles. Go ahead and stop. We all need to consistantly follow the safety rules..lest a slip up spell disaster.

Who knows? There could always be a LEO lurking..and down comes the hammer!

Take Care

280PLUS
January 8, 2006, 11:15 AM
You shoulda went to this one. :p

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