Penn & Teller B.S.


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Mot45acp
January 7, 2006, 05:09 AM
If this is a dupe sorry.

I just saw the Penn & Teller BS show on gun control. It Made up for sitting through Texas SWAT. They expressed a view rarley seen on the tube. It wasnt just for hunters, or LE's. If you own a gun you need to see this episode.Or even more so show it to an anti. Maybe someone with better cpu skills than I can post a link.
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JMusic
January 7, 2006, 08:53 AM
I saw it this morning too. A refreshing veiw of gun control, preformed with a sense of humor and some interesting facts. I recomend veiwing also.
Jim

Mal H
January 7, 2006, 10:30 AM
What network/cable channel was it on?

BTW Mot45acp, the thread title sounds negative, yet the text sounds positive. Did you mean for that to be or is "BS" the name of the show?

slide
January 7, 2006, 10:32 AM
Showtime. I think Penn & Teller needs to be required viewing at all schools.

For some annoying reason, they pepper their shows with four letter words making it inaccessible for the regular nets or schools, but the research and logic are usually very good.

If you liked Gun Control, run, don't walk to see them blow the lid off of PETA.

joebogey
January 7, 2006, 10:50 AM
That's the name of the show. They debunk different myths and rumors.
If you have sensitive ears, you may not like it as they can get pretty raunchy, but they are very informative.

Mal H
January 7, 2006, 11:12 AM
Serendipitously, I just viewed a link of the episode on PETA a few minutes on TFL (The Hunt forum). Excellent exposé on the group and P&T's fact finding was admirable. Yes, the language is coarse, but it sure fits the subject well.

Now I'm going to try to find the Gun Control episode. (I don't get Showtime.)

gfen
January 7, 2006, 11:27 AM
www.wimp.com/petaprotest/

Watched ti just a little bit ago..

Kurush
January 7, 2006, 12:09 PM
If you have a bittorrent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bittorrent) client you can get a torrent for the gun control episode here: http://tinyurl.com/9x3dq

If you don't have a bittorrent client get one here: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

HKUSP45C
January 7, 2006, 01:49 PM
If you have a bittorrent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bittorrent) client you can get a torrent for the gun control episode here: http://tinyurl.com/9x3dq

If you don't have a bittorrent client get one here: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/


Careful here Kurush. What you're essentially doing is providing information to obtain copyrighted material, illegaly. I'm no prude, but the site could get into some hot water.

Kurush
January 7, 2006, 01:54 PM
No, the wimp.com link is a link to copyrighted material, a torrent file contains no copyrighted information. Use it or don't. I have a hard time seeing getting worked up about sharing a Penn&Teller episode :rolleyes:

jlbraun
January 7, 2006, 02:01 PM
Where can I buy the Season 3 DVD of Penn and Teller? I havn't been able to find it anywhere.

Soybomb
January 7, 2006, 03:31 PM
Season three isn't out on dvd yet and won't be til sometime in spring i don't think. Personally I see no ethical problem in downloading the show, and buying the dvd set when it comes out. Legally you're on your own. Its a great show and seasons 1&2 are worth watching. They tackle everything from dr phil, bottled water, religion (sure to offend many I'm sure), recycling, peta, and the war on drugs. If you're a libertarian, this show is for you.

jlbraun
January 7, 2006, 04:03 PM
Season three isn't out on dvd yet and won't be til sometime in spring i don't think. Personally I see no ethical problem in downloading the show, and buying the dvd set when it comes out. Legally you're on your own. Its a great show and seasons 1&2 are worth watching. They tackle everything from dr phil, bottled water, religion (sure to offend many I'm sure), recycling, peta, and the war on drugs. If you're a libertarian, this show is for you.

That was precisely the point I'm trying to make. I might buy it when it comes out, but if downloading it now is the only way to see it I have no problem doing so.

Mannlicher
January 7, 2006, 04:52 PM
who the heck are Penn and Teller?

Ok I did a google search, and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_and_Teller

I do not see anything that would make them experts on firearms. I do see that they are associated with libertarians and athiests. Hmmmmmmmmmm

Alex45ACP
January 7, 2006, 05:41 PM
A few mistakes, but overall a pretty good episode.

Carl N. Brown
January 7, 2006, 05:48 PM
I sometimes find them by accident using my cable remote info
button to see whats on other channels and they are usually
worth watching.

Penn and Teller are a Vegas Night Club magic act who decided
there was a market for debunkers of urban legends and other B.S.

I believe they did one on psychics and seances, another on taste
tests of bottled water in NYC that was actually their NYC tap water
(water "gourmets" could not tell the difference).
They puncture hot air ballons and eventually gore anyones sacred cow.
But they do their homework and have usually stuck to countering
B.S. with hard fact prersented entertainingly, if a bit vulgar.

If anything is a load of B.S. it is guncontrol and PETA.

Hey attorneys: if I subscribe to cable with showtime and miss an
episode, is it "fair" to download the missed episode? (I suspect
unless Showtime has a download site, the answer is no).
"Pirate" downloads = no pay and no Nielson ratings for P&T.

dmftoy1
January 7, 2006, 06:33 PM
My favorite episode (so far, haven't seen the gun control one yet) was the one on environmentalists. They got a whole bunch of supposed environmentalists who were spouting off their knowledge about the environment to sign a petition banning water. (They use the term di-hydrogen monoxide - aka H2O) They didn't lie about any of the things that water does but were able to convince all these people that water killed 10's of thousands of people every year, was infesting all of our fruits and vegetables, etc.


Have a good one,
Dave

Lupinus
January 7, 2006, 07:20 PM
Went onto showtime on demand and watched it, love the show but I seemed to have missed the specific episode.

Was great. While I disagree with them sometimes all in all its a great show.

Mot45acp
January 7, 2006, 09:06 PM
I saw them on my honeymoon. They explain all their "tricks" except the final one.
They brought 2 members from the audience had each one write their name on the casing to a .357 and then draw a symbol of thier choice onto the actual bullet. Penn & Teller then stepped behind 2 panes of glass about 30' apart facing each other. The revolvers had laser sights. They pointed the revolvers at eachothers mouth and fired. Both panes of glass fragment and fall. They then come to the front of the stage and spit the bullets into the volunteers hands and remove the brass from the gun. The bullets pictures and names on the brass matched up.
Prrrretttttyyy Trrriiccckkkyyy
All in all a good show. Highly recomended. It is a show that you can take kids to. They dont curse (they even mentioned that in the show) like they do on Showtime.

Hal
January 8, 2006, 06:40 AM
For some annoying reason, they pepper their shows with four letter words

Comedian Jackie Mason's comment was (IMNSHO) 100% appropriate:
"Anyone who believes in gun control is a (efing) idiot!"
:what: :what:

The program led off with an interview with Roger Rosenblatt - who would like to see a complete ban on private firearm ownership. I almost changed the channel. They more than made up for it later on though. Amost every time they referred to Rosenblatt they were quick to mock or insult him.

All in all it was (IMHO) very pro gun/ pro RKBA slanted.



Suzanna Hupp in tight jeans alone is worth watching!
(Holy Moses is she good looking!!! I gotta tell you - still pictures of her do her no justice @ all.)


http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/topics.do?topic=gun

ecos
January 8, 2006, 06:50 AM
My favorite episode (so far, haven't seen the gun control one yet) was the one on environmentalists. They got a whole bunch of supposed environmentalists who were spouting off their knowledge about the environment to sign a petition banning water. (They use the term di-hydrogen monoxide - aka H2O) They didn't lie about any of the things that water does but were able to convince all these people that water killed 10's of thousands of people every year, was infesting all of our fruits and vegetables, etc.
Have a good one,
Dave

lmao. ive got to see that one

45Broomhandle
January 8, 2006, 12:46 PM
I've gotta' find that gun control BS show!!! Somehow I missed it. Saw the PETA one. For all you who "admire" PETA's work like I do, feel free to use the little "NO PETA" symbol (below) that I use on ALL my postings.

The episode where they use the petition AGAINST THE USE OF WATER was hilarious. Shows what a bunch of ignorant A-holes the Libertarians actually are. Or, as Bugs Bunny would say, "What a maroon!!!"

Whoever said they "peppered" their comments with too many expletives to make it fodder for a larger audience, is absolutely correct. That's the ONE thing I've got against them. However, check the title of the show, and go from there.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/356839.jpg

If God hadn't intended us to eat animals why did he make them taste like MEAT???:confused:

slide
January 8, 2006, 01:32 PM
The water episode didn't show anything at all about Libertarians. The signers where college kids who were idealistic leftwingers environmentalists. This is the polar opposite of Libertarians.

For those w/o Showtime, they had a petition at some Green rally asking to outlaw dihydrogen oxide which has shown to cause drowning, dependency, etc.

I said their show was too peppered with four letter words to show kids. My complaint is that the use of these words adds nothing to the show yet takes audience away. I'd like my daughter (13) to develop a skeptical mind about various claims, but I can't very well show her P&T. She'd just turn off due to the language.

Kurush
January 8, 2006, 02:09 PM
I agree that the language detracts from the show. It's a sign of laziness that they throw obscenities at the people they're criticizing. Anyone can call names, it takes talent to make a cutting satire.

obm
January 8, 2006, 02:33 PM
The episode where they use the petition AGAINST THE USE OF WATER was hilarious. Shows what a bunch of ignorant A-holes the Libertarians actually are.
i think you're mistaking Libertarians for some other group. Libertarians believe guns should be regulated by personal responsiblity not by government. P&T are Libertarians as well as many others on this board.

Sheldon J
January 8, 2006, 06:35 PM
so when I went to Vegas in September I went to see their show. Penn N Teller stop and talk to every one after the show so I questioned them a length about this eppisode. Teller who is not as short as he looks on stage is a very articulate individual and related about how Penn and himself put a great deal of effort into that episode and how strongly they felt about the US constitution and the second amendment. Penn was dittos on this and is one tall guy at 6’6” (m 6’4”) both are real decent people and I’m proud to have had the opportunity to have met and talked with them.:D

GunnySkox
January 8, 2006, 07:12 PM
Earlier in the thread, someone made a passing complaint about the harsh language that proliferates in Penn and Teller's BS. Two things:

A) If you watch the first episode of the first season, Penn explains the basic concept of the show. Paraphrasing: "Y'see, if you call people liars or quacks or thieves, they can sue the hell out of you for slander or libel... But calling them c**ks**kers or m*****f**kers *he shrugs* no problem!"

B) Talking @#$% about @#$%$#@#$s is ##$%' funny! :D

~GnSx
P.S.~ I don't intend anyone any offense by this, I'm just cracking wise for a laugh and to explain why there might seem to be a greater than normal proliferaiton of profanity in the program.

P.P.S~ Owned! Alliteration bonus points!

Peet
January 8, 2006, 07:20 PM
I can't believe no one has posted this.

The original DHMO website: http://www.dhmo.org/

I first saw this about five or six years ago when my lil bro pulled it on the family. You could clearly see the left-center-right split by our reactions. It seems to be a spoof that separates thinking v.s. non-thinking (feeling!) folks: i.e. the lefty/sane split...

45Broomhandle
January 8, 2006, 08:31 PM
i think you're mistaking Libertarians for some other group. Libertarians believe guns should be regulated by personal responsiblity not by government. P&T are Libertarians as well as many others on this board.

obm IS QUITE CORRECT. I WAS MISTAKEN AND I APOLOGIZE TO ALL LIBERTARIANS. I'm so accustomed to hearing left-wingers in the public media claiming to be Libertarians that I've become brainwashed. That being said, following the dictionary definition, I would also have to consider myself a Libertarian as well. Stupidly I never bothered to look it up. :banghead:

http://img498.imageshack.us/img498/9238/fouremblems1ax.jpg

IndianaDean
January 8, 2006, 08:41 PM
I've been watching P&T: BS since it first came on. The environmentalist episode was great, along with the ones where they exposed magnetic therapy. My favorite episode was a different one however.

slide
January 8, 2006, 08:51 PM
I've been watching P&T: BS since it first came on. The environmentalist episode was great, along with the ones where they exposed magnetic therapy. My favorite episode was a different one however.

the secret episode?

Carl N. Brown
January 9, 2006, 03:52 PM
Showtime is advertising a P&T BS episode early Wed morning.
Anyone know which one it is (my cable info did not display
details)?

444
January 9, 2006, 05:50 PM
Even our local celebrities are pro-freedom.

dmftoy1
January 9, 2006, 08:52 PM
Showtime is advertising a P&T BS episode early Wed morning.
Anyone know which one it is (my cable info did not display
details)?

From what I can see there are shows on Wednesday at 12:30am, 3:30am, 10:00pm, and 10:30pm on Showtime, ShoW, Sho2, and Sho2 respectively. (Directtv). The topics are Signs from Heaven (first 2), Circumcision, and Family Values.

Have a good one,
Dave

Sheldon J
January 9, 2006, 09:50 PM
I can't believe no one has posted this.

The original DHMO website: http://www.dhmo.org/

I first saw this about five or six years ago when my lil bro pulled it on the family. You could clearly see the left-center-right split by our reactions. It seems to be a spoof that separates thinking v.s. non-thinking (feeling!) folks: i.e. the lefty/sane split...
that it is amost new again, they even did a session on it on some tv gag show.:evil:

ZeroX
February 26, 2006, 09:52 PM
I love this show. The PETA and environmental hysteria episodes have been fun (haven't got to Gun Control yet). I found this link where you can watch streaming videos of every episode (in the order of their airing) 24/7. Just copy and paste the link below into a media player like Windows Media Player or Winamp.

http://38.113.141.19:8010;stream.nsv

c_yeager
February 26, 2006, 10:25 PM
I said their show was too peppered with four letter words to show kids. My complaint is that the use of these words adds nothing to the show yet takes audience away. I'd like my daughter (13) to develop a skeptical mind about various claims, but I can't very well show her P&T. She'd just turn off due to the language.



They cuss so much cause its kinda funny, and Penn and Teller are all about being kinda funny. I love the show, and the swearing is a part of it. I agree that it limits the audience a bit.

That reminds me that one of the best shows they have done was actually about swearing/cencorship, it came after the whole Janet Jackson thing. The woman they had on who was on the anti-swearing side might have been the single dumbest human being I have ever seen.

ZeroX
February 26, 2006, 10:36 PM
Penn Jillette: [Penn explains why there is so much vulgarity on the show] You'll notice more obscentity than we usually use. That's not just because it's on Showtime, and we want to get some attention. It's also a legal matter. If one calls people liars and quacks, one can be sued and lose a lot of one's money. But "mother****ers" and "???????s" is pretty safe. If we said it was all scams, we could also be in trouble. But BULL****, oddly, is safe.So forgive all the bull**** language. We're trying to talk about the truth without spending the rest of our lives in court because of litigious mother****ers!

BigRobT
February 26, 2006, 11:28 PM
I don't know what the uproar is about swearing. Obviously people haven't listen to a group of eighth graders lately. Granted, there are better ways to couch one's words, but vulgarities seem to be the "in" thing. I was a career Sailor and I'm sometimes flabbergasted!! t makes me angry that some channels that are NOT aired and available only on cable feek the need to bleep out certain words. It's just stupid. I can see abiding by FCC regs when they have to, (broadcast), but a cable only channel?? Come on, let's get real. Are we really that naive??

I'll be looking for that P&T show via On Demand. I never saw the gun control one. I have seen the PeTA one.

adaman04
February 26, 2006, 11:31 PM
It's saved to my desktop. A good watch I agree.

trickyasafox
February 26, 2006, 11:32 PM
trying to get a hold of it right now. I had no idea that penn and teller were so active, i just assumed there were your average las vegas comedy act

slide
February 28, 2006, 10:05 AM
The 'thing' about the swear words is that the shows can't be seen in any public venue where children are or even most adults. That needlessly limits the shows to late night cable where folks only stumble across it accidentally.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if this show, less the idiotic f**k this or s**t that narratives was on instead of 60 Minutes? Yet it can't be because of the pointless wording. I really do mean pointless because it doesn't make any of their points.

Penn either has no legal info or was joking if he said that if he calls someone full of bulls**t isn't not slander where if he said they are a liar it is.

Soybomb
February 28, 2006, 11:49 AM
The 'thing' about the swear words is that the shows can't be seen in any public venue where children are or even most adults. That needlessly limits the shows to late night cable where folks only stumble across it accidentally.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if this show, less the idiotic f**k this or s**t that narratives was on instead of 60 Minutes? Yet it can't be because of the pointless wording. I really do mean pointless because it doesn't make any of their points.
Its not late night cable, the season premier is like april 3rd at 7pm or something like that, its one of their best shows. If penn and teller wore bunny suits and sang kids songs there is no way the show could be on broadcast tv in place of 60 minutes. Even expanded cable is doubtful. You're talking about stations that are paid for with advertising dollars. Did you watch any of the shows dealing with the bible? How about the circumcision show? Or the one where they talked about what terrible things mother theresa and ghandi had done? You'd have a show boycotted and pulled in time. Being on premium cable is the only way the show can exist, even then I'm surprised sometimes at what showtime will let them do.

Lobotomy Boy
February 28, 2006, 01:16 PM
I just watched all of season one at my cousin's ice-fishing "shack" on Lake of the Woods this weekend. It is enough to get me to subscribe to Showtime. I have to figure out how to get the gun control episode because I can't wait for it to come out on DVD.

sithanas
February 28, 2006, 02:04 PM
If anyone downloaded the file from the torrent, would you mind climbing back on board as a seed for a sec? I'm 512kb (2 blocks) from finishing the file and no one has the two blocks I'm missing.

Thanks.

ATAShooter
February 28, 2006, 02:33 PM
They also did a trick where someone picks a card, puts it back into the deck... the deck is then put into a bracket made onto a football helment and he shoots the deck with a Python and the bullet stops at the card that was drawn.

cdcmj
February 28, 2006, 03:07 PM
Penn and Teller, though performers, are extremley intelligent individuals who use intellect and common sense to prove their points. Best episode is about how recycling is BS. THese guys dont have an agenda and just tell it how it is-episode on the war on drugs is extremley convincing- Penn who talks, explicitly makes it known that he has never consumed alcohol or drugs, but his arguments appear as if they are from someone who has-once again, intellect and common sense.

c_yeager
February 28, 2006, 03:11 PM
I just watched all of season one at my cousin's ice-fishing "shack" on Lake of the Woods this weekend. It is enough to get me to subscribe to Showtime. I have to figure out how to get the gun control episode because I can't wait for it to come out on DVD.

If you get digital cable showtime makes the show available on their on-demans system, so you can catch the shows that you missed. I caught the whole first season like this when I was housesitting for my parents who have every cable feature imaginable.

tenbase
February 28, 2006, 03:16 PM
I just noticed the gun store shown in this episode is the same one from this thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=185359).

Herself
February 28, 2006, 03:37 PM
double tap, please see next.

Herself
February 28, 2006, 03:37 PM
I just noticed the gun store shown in this episode is the same one from this thread. ("NRA Board member loses his Gun Store")

Why, what a coincidence! Nothing at all sinister about that, hey? (Must...find...tinfoil...hat!)

Seriously weird.

--Herself

tenbase
February 28, 2006, 03:45 PM
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