What can people do when they want to protect themselves with a concealed gun


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AsianDragonPower
January 9, 2006, 03:57 AM
but want to carry it legally out in public?

is there a way you can do this?

i live in michigan

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swampsniper
January 9, 2006, 04:05 AM
but want to carry it legally out in public?

is there a way you can do this?

i live in michigan

Check things out at http://www.packing.org/

AsianDragonPower
January 9, 2006, 04:16 AM
Check things out at http://www.packing.org/

thanks for the info

hey do you know what can stop you from being able to have a gun license?

if you get arrested once but not convicted of anything can you get your eligablility of getting a gun license revoked?

BruceB
January 9, 2006, 04:18 AM
Michigan does have "shall-issue" concealed-carry laws now. If you meet
the requirements, (generally, a clean record) they MUST issue the license.

Go to packing.org as suggested, and find the list of states on that website. Click on 'Michigan' (naturally!), and you'll have a good summary of what's needed and where you may carry.

AsianDragonPower
January 9, 2006, 04:34 AM
Michigan does have "shall-issue" concealed-carry laws now. If you meet
the requirements, (generally, a clean record) they MUST issue the license.

Go to packing.org as suggested, and find the list of states on that website. Click on 'Michigan' (naturally!), and you'll have a good summary of what's needed and where you may carry.


i cant find the requirements

do you know what the requirements are?

fjolnirsson
January 9, 2006, 05:28 AM
You might also talk to the folks at http://www.combatcarry.com/vbulletin/index.php

They can help you with things like holster selection and various other tips and tricks.

swampsniper
January 9, 2006, 05:32 AM
i cant find the requirements

do you know what the requirements are?

You would make a better impression if you use the provided links, and find the info yourself. You are coming across as little kid, not someone mature enough for CCW.

fjolnirsson
January 9, 2006, 05:34 AM
Here ya go. From the Michigan State Police web site:

Requirements to Obtain a Concealed Pistol Permit after July 1, 2001

1. 21 years of age or older

2. Citizen of the United States or a Resident Alien

3. Resident of Michigan for at least 6 months

4. Successful completion of Pistol Safety Training Course

5. Cannot be subject to an order or disposition for any of the following:

* Mental health order
* Legally incapacitated
* Involuntarily hospitalized
* Been found not guilty by reason of insanity

6. Not subject to a conditional bond release where firearm possession prohibited

7. Not subject to a Personal Protection Order

8. Not prohibited by MCL 750.224f (felon in possession of a firearm)

9. Has never been convicted of a felony in Michigan or elsewhere

10. A felony charge is not pending against the applicant in Michigan or elsewhere

11. Has not been dishonorably discharged from the US Armed Forces

12. Has not been convicted of one of the following misdemeanors in the 8 years immediately preceding the date of application:

* Failing to stop when involved in a personal injury accident (257.617a)
* Operating Under the Influence 2nd offense (257.625(1)(8)(b))
* Drunk driving, commercial vehicle (257.625m(4))
* Reckless driving (257.626)
* Driving on while suspended or revoked (257.904(1)) (punishable as a second or subsequent offense)
* Operating aircraft with alcohol with prior conviction (259.185)
* Hindering or obstructing weights and measures enforcement officer (290.629)
* Hindering or obstructing weights and measures enforcement officer (290.629)
* Hindering, assaulting, or committing bodily injury upon director or authorized representative of the Motor Quality Fuels Act (290.650)
* Operating an ORV under the influence, second or subsequent offense (324.80334(5) or (6))
* Operating a snowmobile under the influence with prior conviction (324.82127)
* Operating a vessel under the influence, second or subsequent offense (324.80176)
* Possession of a controlled substance (333.7403)
* Operating a locomotive under the influence (426.353 (4))
* Displaying sexually explicit materials to minors (722.677)
* Assault or domestic assault or aggravated (750.81)
* Aggravated assault or aggravated domestic assault (750.81a)
* Entering without breaking (750.115)
* 4th degree child abuse (750.136b)
* Accosting, enticing, or soliciting, a child for immoral purposes (750.145a)
* Vulnerable adult abuse (750.145n)
* Solicitation to commit a felony (750.157b)
* Impersonating a sheriff, conservation officer, coroner, constable, or police officer (750.215)
* Illegal sale of a firearm or ammunition (750.223)
* Illegal sale of a self-defense spray (750.224d)
* Sale or possession of a mechanical knife (750.226a)
* Improper transportation of a firearm (750.227c)
* Failure to have a pistol inspected (750.228)
* Accepting a pistol in pawn (750.229)
* Failure to register the purchase of a firearm or a firearm component (750.232)
* Improperly obtaining a pistol, making a false statement on an application to purchase a pistol, or using false identification to purchase a pistol (750.232a)
* Intentionally aiming a firearm w/o malice (750.233)
* Intentionally discharging a firearm w/o malice (750.234)
* Possessing a firearm on prohibited premises (750.234d)
* Brandishing a firearm in public (750.234e)
* Possession of a firearm by a person less than 18 years of age (750.234f)
* Intentionally discharging a firearm aimed without malice causing injury (750.235)
* Parent of a minor who possessed a firearm in a weapon free school zone (750.235a)
* Setting a spring gun or other device (750.236)
* Possessing a firearm while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or drug (750.237)
* Weapon free school zone violation (750.237a)
* Indecent exposure (750.335a)
* Stalking (750.411h)
* Reckless, careless, or negligent use of a firearm resulting in injury or death (752.861)
* Reckless, careless, or negligent use of a firearm resulting in property damage (752.862)
* Reckless discharge of a firearm (752.863a)
* Violation of a law of the United States, another state, or a local unit of government of this state or another state substantially corresponding to a violation described above

13. The applicant has not been convicted of one of the following in this state or elsewhere in the 3 years immediately preceding the date of application:

*
Operating under the influence (257.625)
*
Refusal of commercial vehicle driver to submit to a chemical test (257.625a)
*
Negligently fails to comply-Ignition interlock device (257.625k)
*
Circumventing an ignition interlocking device (257.625l)
*
Operating a commercial vehicle with alcohol content (257.625m)
*
Operating an aircraft under the influence (259.185)
*
Operating an ORV under the influence (324.81134)
*
Operating an ORV having consumed a controlled substance (324.81135)
*
Operating a snowmobile under the influence (324.82127)
*
Controlled Substances (333.7401 333.7461)
*
Operating a locomotive under the influence (462.353)
*
Disorderly person (750.167)
*
Embezzlement (750.174)
*
False pretenses (750.218)
*
Larceny (750.356)
*
Retail Fraud (750.356d)
*
Larceny from a vacant building (750.359)
*
Larceny by conversion (750.362)
*
Defrauding lessor (750.362a)
*
Malicious destruction of property (750.377a)
*
Malicious destruction of real property (750.380)
*
Failure to obey police direction (750.479a)
*
Receiving stolen property (750.535)
*
Malicious use of telephones (750.540e)
*
Violation of a law of the United States, another state, or a local unit of government of this state or another state substantially corresponding to a violation described above


14. The applicant has not been found guilty but mentally ill of any crime and has not offered a plea of not guilty of, or been acquitted of, any crime by reason of insanity.

15. The applicant has NEVER been subject to an order of involuntary commitment due to a mental illness.

16. The applicant does not have a diagnosed mental illness at the time the application is made regardless of whether he or she is receiving treatment.

17. The applicant is not under a court order of legal incapacity in this state or elsewhere.




Welcome to THR.

markdaniel
January 9, 2006, 09:34 AM
Go to your local P.D. they should have a kit that has everything you need. You can also ask they may have a list of instructors

hoppinglark
January 9, 2006, 11:40 AM
markdaniel +1

Owen
January 9, 2006, 11:56 AM
Here ya go. From the Michigan State Police web site:

Operating a locomotive under the influence (462.353)




Well I guess my hopes and dreams have all been crushed mercilessly by the statists in Michigan! All I hit was the terminal!!

Sheldon J
January 9, 2006, 10:13 PM
Has been a hot topic for a very long time and coverd in great detail at this web site MGOUC (http://www.mgouc.com/phpBB2/index.php) there are several Mi pro gun lawyers there. It would be grand of you could carry out in the open like I do when in Az, however you will very likely be stopped and questioned by the police, save the open cary for your property.:D

gezzer
January 10, 2006, 08:48 PM
Should add breathing to the list of offences Geesh!!!

Trebor
January 10, 2006, 10:01 PM
ADP,

Send me a PM. I'm in Michigan. PM me and we can set up a e-mail correspondance to see where you stand.

Rob

AsianDragonPower
January 11, 2006, 03:54 AM
Should add breathing to the list of offences Geesh!!!

really

does anybody know if you have a disposition, but if the charges are dropped from you,

will the disposition be taken away and will your record be cleared?

because i got a note from the michigan state police saying that i may not be able to get a pistol license because I have a diposition against me, but i can ask if the record can be deleted.

so since the charges are dropped, the disposition accusal of me should be deleted right?


thanks if n e body knows, very important

i hope i can still get a license, in the most dangerous city in america next to camden nj lol

SixForSure
January 12, 2006, 03:44 PM
Don't Feed the Troll!

scout26
January 12, 2006, 05:03 PM
SFS,

I don't think that Mr. DragonPower is a troll. He has asked legitmate questions regarding CCW in his state (Michigan) seeking more information. His has not thrown the typical "All You Gun-Nuts are Evil Idiots." stink bomb, like the one over in the hunting forum now.

I attribute his "keyboarding" skills as more likely due to English being his second language, however I do not totally discount that he could be somewhat too young to legally CCW.

I do hope that Trebor (and/or anyone else in MI) can help him through the process, if he is eligible for CCW.

JMHOWIWWYPFI.

10 Ring Tao
January 13, 2006, 03:19 AM
You might have better luck with michigan specific questions if you asked them in the michigan section of glocktalk.

http://glocktalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=112

Lots of extremely knowledgable people, and even some dedicated 2A activists who are on the front lines.

Plus, we organize meetups and range trips all the time. Come on over.

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