Soldier Ebaying to afford Body Armor


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Drysdale
January 12, 2006, 06:25 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5852126163&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Fcgiurl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.com%252Fws%252F%26fkr%3D1%26from%3DR8%26satitle%3D5852126163%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1

With my deployment to Iraq, also comes with dangers and it is my hopes that with the proceeds I receive from selling some of my items on ebay, I will be able to purchase a brand new Interceptor Body Armor to replace the Vietnam-era flak jackets that have been issued, for my tour in Iraq. Thank you for your Support! - John

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Stiletto Null
January 12, 2006, 06:28 PM
Well, I'm not buying, but read that comment that someone sent him.

I don't understand the kind of hate it takes to send messages like that.

thorazine
January 12, 2006, 06:50 PM
Close to five thousand hits on his auction as of this post. Word must be getting around fast.

middy
January 12, 2006, 06:55 PM
Hmmm... I'd like to know why a medic is being issued a "Vietnam-era flak jacket".

Any veterans care to comment?

BADSBSNF81
January 12, 2006, 07:03 PM
Interesting. I'd be curious to know which Mobiliztion Station or CONUS Replacement Center is training him. Might have had a grain of truth in the early days of the GWOT (IBA shortages), but, not lately.

Drysdale
January 12, 2006, 07:05 PM
yeah, I wasnt' 100% buying the story, but I wasn't 100% denying it either.

Firethorn
January 12, 2006, 07:09 PM
Hmmm... I'd like to know why a medic is being issued a "Vietnam-era flak jacket".

Any veterans care to comment?

Just got back from Iraq last year. Went over there with a flak jacket(best our base had), was promptly issued lvl IV w/plates. Had to turn it back in when I left.

I'm air force, with no prospect of leaving the base. If I'm issued it, the medic will be as well.

They were also starting up a program so that all you'd go over with would be your uniforms and any professional equipment. All armor and stuff to be issued at a staging base.

atomchaser
January 12, 2006, 07:43 PM
He'll be issued Level IV when he hits the ground if not before. There are warehouses full of body armour over their now.

strambo
January 12, 2006, 07:47 PM
I'm very skeptical...I'm National Guard, but I have the latest body armor vest. All I need is the plates...but the vest was just standard stateside issue. I'm sure I'll get the plates when I deploy. Might be true though...

AFhack
January 12, 2006, 08:08 PM
IMO the ebay story is just so much bull. Either that or the guy is either national guard or reserve and is very poorly informed. The way it's written I think it's the former rather than the later.



I'm a unit deployment manager in the USAF (active duty) and this just doesn't ring true at all.

joab
January 12, 2006, 08:21 PM
I used to sell a lot of cars in the local newspaper.
I always put divorce, deployment, or baby forces sale
I got more responses that way
Either people feeling sorry for me or thinking they could lowball me

spaceCADETzoom
January 12, 2006, 08:22 PM
I kinda feel skeptical as well. They don't pay me enough to know who gets issued what, but I've no reason to believe any soldier's getting deployed without IBA...in 2006...

Even if the story holds, it's mildly distatesteful to be putting that preface to all his auctions. It's like, "I'm serving my country, buy stuff from me!"...who does that? I don't...but I guess he's not me...

I'm not hoisting the BS flag...just an eyebrow raised, is all. Hope no one misinterperets what I'm saying and calls me anti-american or something...I'm an Army reservist too.

joab
January 12, 2006, 08:31 PM
I heard today that the pentagon is alowing the issue of the type armor he is trying to buy.
Problem is the soldiers don't want it
One soldier stated that he needed his arms free for climbing walls and jumping over barricades and the armor would be too restricting

1 old 0311
January 12, 2006, 08:55 PM
Read the feedback. This guy just BOUGHT MP3 accessories 6 days ago. It is a con job:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Kevin

spaceCADETzoom
January 12, 2006, 09:00 PM
I heard today that the pentagon is alowing the issue of the type armor he is trying to buy.
Problem is the soldiers don't want it
One soldier stated that he needed his arms free for climbing walls and jumping over barricades and the armor would be too restricting

in a word...

No.

joab
January 12, 2006, 10:08 PM
How about some more words

SilentStalker
January 12, 2006, 10:13 PM
What is wrong with buying MP3 accessories?

Firethorn
January 12, 2006, 10:29 PM
What is wrong with buying MP3 accessories?

It sounds like he's using the whole 'deployer needing body armor' thing as a sob story to try to get a few more bucks out of people in his auctions.

As scams go, it's very minor.

UWstudent
January 12, 2006, 11:50 PM
scam scam scam

Dannyboy
January 12, 2006, 11:53 PM
in a word...

No.
Um, no what? No, nobody wants less body armor? If that's what you mean then, in a word, yes. There are people who want less, or at least, no more body armor. Here's an article for ya. http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=82376 Protection or mobility. Both would be great but that ain't happening today.

tater_salad
January 13, 2006, 04:15 AM
Sorry all, I had to raise the B.S. Flag. I deployed for OIF II-II and they wouldn't even think of sending anyone over there w/out the Lvl. IV intercepters anymore. Hell, we were training in them w/ plates in for 3 months before we even left CONUS. He's full of crap. If this puke even is in the Army, he knows that too. Not trying to start a fight here, but when I was in BIAP before and after operating in our A.O., there were soldiers that were pogues, they sat on base all day and they had better equipement than we had. This kid's a disgrace and I let him know it. If you disagree, I've got some great swampland I'd like to sell ya... :barf:

solareclipse
January 13, 2006, 04:23 AM
another ebay scam along the lines of

"this is my wife's dress", "my puppy died", "i saw a shape in my toast" etc

it's sad suckers are still falling for it. or as ebay goes, people bid and don't pay.

Tequila_Sauer
January 13, 2006, 12:53 PM
Yuck.

The worst I've seen from EBay is the scandal with Alisher.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10619447/

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&items=25&page=2&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off


You must have an EBay account for that second one. The guy scammed hundreds of people out of items over Christmas. It's really sad to read the negative feedback on his account of all the people that sent 300 bucks for an MP3 player and recieved nothing.

AK-74me
January 13, 2006, 01:43 PM
Yuck.

The worst I've seen from EBay is the scandal with Alisher.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10619447/

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&items=25&page=2&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off


You must have an EBay account for that second one. The guy scammed hundreds of people out of items over Christmas. It's really sad to read the negative feedback on his account of all the people that sent 300 bucks for an MP3 player and recieved nothing.

That guy deserves to be tortured, that is one of the most miserable things I've ever seen done......... all those people right before Christmas.

wingnutx
January 13, 2006, 01:45 PM
We train with old crappy flak vests here, and get issued Interceptors when we hit Kuwait, before proceeding to Iraq.

When we leave, we leave the vests in Kuwait.

jlbraun
January 13, 2006, 04:48 PM
Yuck.

The worst I've seen from EBay is the scandal with Alisher.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10619447/

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&items=25&page=2&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off


You must have an EBay account for that second one. The guy scammed hundreds of people out of items over Christmas. It's really sad to read the negative feedback on his account of all the people that sent 300 bucks for an MP3 player and recieved nothing.

I find it amazing how anyone would ever send Western Union or a personal check as payment to someone they've never met. Every one of those auctions was paid that way. He has all of the culpability for the wire fraud and these people don't share the blame for that, but they were not responsible to themselves in that they didn't use common sense.

Langenator
January 14, 2006, 01:41 AM
I spent Sep-Dec training Guard units preparing to go over to OIF on convoy live fires. These units, company size, came from all over the country-CA,NM, KS, AR, WA, SC, IA, and others I can't remember. To a man, they all had IBA-even the one medic who was 6,6" and 350 lbs. (Dude's neck was as big as my thigh. Who do you think us trainers 'judged' to be the first casualty? :evil: )

Hell, even my unit (AC/RC), which is so far down the equipment totem pole that we still have PVS-5s (NVGs, about 2.5 generations removed from current) has IBA, albeit without the plates.

Dude's full of fecal matter.

SAG0282
January 14, 2006, 05:57 AM
Bit tough to take seriously....my bro is an OIF vet w/ the Marine Corps, and he said the Interceptor stuff was plentiful enough to go around, and the Corps is generally not as well-equipped as it's Army counterpart.

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