Harvard: "Expert Panel Debates Gun Control"


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cuchulainn
April 9, 2003, 09:20 AM
from the Harvard Crimson

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=347456Published on Wednesday, April 09, 2003
Expert Panel Debates Gun Control

By ALEXANDER J. FINERMAN
Contributing Writer

The Second Amendment deserves a B-minus in draftmanship, according to Frankfurter Professor of Law Alan Dershowitz, who debated the constitutional issues surrounding gun ownership at Harvard Law School (HLS) last night.
In front of an audience of about 200, Dershowitz advocated heavy regulation of gun purchases, saying that the amendment would prevent guns from being banned altogether.

Joining him in debating were Dennis Henigan, director of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence’s Legal Action Program, and Eugene Volokh, a professor at UCLA School of Law. Elena Kagan, an HLS professor chosen last week to be the school’s new dean, moderated the debate.

The debate comes as Congress is considering a bill to limit the liability of gun manufacturers in civil lawsuits.

Blasting the bill, Henigan said representatives will wrongfully “wrap themselves in the Constitution and hide behind the Second Amendment myth” of gun-ownership rights to justify voting in favor of the bill.

Volokh defended the legislation, drawing a parallel between making gun-manufacturer Glock liable when its gun is used in a murder and making Ford and Absolut vodka liable when its products are involved with drunk-driving deaths.

More broadly, Henigan asserted that the Second Amendment, which grants the right to bear arms, is inapplicable in the modern era. He said the amendment does not apply today because a militia no longer exists, eliminating the rationale for gun ownership.

“If Madison wanted a broad use of the Second Amendment,” Henigan said to the audience, “why did he include this qualification at all?”

Citing a battery of statistics, Volokh made a vigorous argument for the desirability of private citizens owning handguns.

“People use guns to defend themselves hundreds of thousands of times per year,” he said. “Guns have no equal as self-defense tools.”

Arguing that more stringent gun control or handgun bans would only deny firearms to law-abiding citizens, he said that criminals would have no reason to respect the laws and could find a way around the restrictions.

“The choices are: should only criminals have guns, or should law-abiding citizens have guns too,” Volokh said.

Dershowitz said that he is not an expert on the Second Amendment and has never held a pistol, but joked about his experience as a defense attorney.

“I can’t say that about all of my clients,” he quipped.

Dershowitz said that “a narrow right to own guns for self-protection” existed but that there is still room for substantial government regulations.

Dershowitz, however, called the Second Amendement an “anachronism” because if America had the choice today it would not choose to be an “armed society.”

“The Second Amendment has no place in modern society,” he said.

Dershowitz said that ideally he would like a gun ban, but would settle for significant restrictions.

At the same time, he voiced his opposition to “constitutionalizing” the gun control debate by leaving it for the Supreme Court to decide. Dershowitz said he would prefer that controls are worked out through the legislative process.

Copyright © 2003, The Harvard Crimson Inc.

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Jeff White
April 9, 2003, 09:54 AM
At the same time, he voiced his opposition to “constitutionalizing” the gun control debate by leaving it for the Supreme Court to decide. Dershowitz said he would prefer that controls are worked out through the legislative process.

Could it be that the good professor is afraid that the Supremes might rule we do actually have a constirutional right to bear arms and that constitutionalizing the gun control debate would be the end of his side of the arguement?


Dershowitz said that “a narrow right to own guns for self-protection” existed but that there is still room for substantial government regulations. No professor Dershowitz, we can't let a little thing like the constitution get in the way of what you want to do. How come there is room for substantial governement regulations on gun ownership, but not for substantial government regulations on speech, abortion, etc.?

Jeff

redhead
April 9, 2003, 10:01 AM
Well, isn't this special. "experts" debate gun control and the Second Amendment. I am soooo impressed. I remember when I first started college, was young and overly impressionable. I thought my professor were sooooo smart, and figured that if they had doctorate degrees that they knew more than most people and that their opinions were worth more. And, they were flamin' liberals. Well, I finally grew up and realized how wrong many of these people were, and purged my brain of the leftist, anti-liberty nonsense.

UnknownSailor
April 9, 2003, 10:38 AM
If Alan Dershowitz is a 2nd Amendment expert, I'm the POTUS.

There aren't enough :barf: in the world to cover what I think about this "debate".

OF
April 9, 2003, 10:56 AM
"Expert Panel Debates Gun Control"

"Dershowitz said that he is not an expert on the Second Amendment and has never held a pistol"


Hmmmm...

- Gabe

Pilgrim
April 9, 2003, 11:23 AM
During the O.J. Simpson murder trial, Dershowitz was a minor player on the defense team. He stated that all cops lie on the witness stand in varying degrees.

I am sure he also expects all cops to protect him from his mouth regardless of who he is pissing off at the time.

Monkeyleg
April 9, 2003, 06:19 PM
Dershowitz's primary source of income is from doing Woody Allen impersonations on TV talk shows. Beyond that, he's an idiot.

Also, doesn't the 2-1 advantage for the anti's seem less like a debate and more like tag-team wrestling?

English John
April 9, 2003, 07:56 PM
Yeah, right. The people don't want guns. How come 33 states have "shall issue" CCW, more states have issue CCW, and then there is Vermont.

Jrob24
April 9, 2003, 09:32 PM
This is the same Dershowitz dork that wants us to have national I.D. cards :fire:

Standing Wolf
April 9, 2003, 09:57 PM
...Henigan asserted that the Second Amendment, which grants the right to bear arms...

Wrong. The Bill of Rights recognizes and protects rights, but in no way grants them.

tyme
April 9, 2003, 10:18 PM
Sounds like a top-notch "expert panel" to me. Out of three people, only one understands the legal authority of an amendment, only one understands 18th century english, only one understands the issues surrounding firearm ownership and carry, and only one understands the rationale behind the BoR.

What a joke. Not surprising that Harvard would host it. Those top-flight schools seem to be suffering Icarus' fate.

pittspilot
April 9, 2003, 11:48 PM
Eugene Volokh is one of the good guys.

Go here for this blog (http://volokh.blogspot.com/)

STW
April 10, 2003, 01:07 AM
In many cases a Phd is just someone learning more and more about less and less until they know everything there is to know about nothing.:evil:

Frohickey
April 16, 2003, 09:50 PM
Constitutionality of Gun Ownership (http://media.law.harvard.edu:8888/ramgen/hls_target_shooting/spring_03/2003-04-08_an_0400-0600.rm)

Pro 2A vs Anti 2A
Eugene Volokh vs Dennis Hennigan
Eugene Volokh vs Alan Dershowitz

Hmm... wonder why there is only one for our side, and two for them? I guess they wanted to make it fair. :D

nsf003
April 16, 2003, 10:58 PM
Antis and their bias, not a suprise.

nsf

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