Most gun friendly state


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brekneb
January 13, 2006, 03:30 AM
So which state is most gun friendly? Or do most states compare to one another in their friendliness?

How does the friendliness apply to:
Handguns, “assault rifles/weapons”, .50 BMG etc etc etc

You know, all the “bad” guns and all the other TYPES of things that are firearms related that have more restrictions upon them than most other things. I.e.; how many hand guns can be purchased at one time, how many hoops you have to jump through to get a handgun, etc.

What other issues can you think of that wouldn't be a problem in said state?

I wants to know so I can move to whatever state is the best for guns. :D

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R.O.F
January 13, 2006, 03:35 AM
Cripes, I'm just looking for you number aren't I? No problems in SD as far as I can tell. I think that when you start getting into the more populated states is when you start running into problems. EG. Minnesota, can only hunt with shotgun slugs whereas northern Minnesota can hunt with rifles....WHY... because of population. SD, ND, WY, MT, all these states and those like em, have EVERYTHING shooters could ever want.

EDIT: By invoking MN, I meant the southern half.

brekneb
January 13, 2006, 03:38 AM
Cripes, I'm just looking for you number aren't I?

:D Hah-ha. No, such is what happens when someone (me) posts another thread 2 seconds after the first.

Thanks yet again.

Cosmoline
January 13, 2006, 03:53 AM
Alaska, bar none.

solareclipse
January 13, 2006, 04:30 AM
laws say vermont.. in practice, it probably varies by county and city

Cosmoline
January 13, 2006, 05:39 AM
Meh. Vermont is a suburb of Boston.

LAK
January 13, 2006, 07:43 AM
Alaska and Vermont.

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El Tejon
January 13, 2006, 09:03 AM
ATFE publishes a catalog of state laws. Go get it and see which state has the fewest pages.

IIRC, Alaska or Idaho.

UWstudent
January 13, 2006, 09:14 AM
alaska is the answer...

can you still open carry there?

geekWithA.45
January 13, 2006, 09:20 AM
Lookup the Brady state grades.

Any state with a D or F from their gun bigotted perspective is darn friendly to gunowners.

States with A's are actively hostile to guns and their owners.

You take your chances with Bs & Cs


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=170224&highlight=brady+state+grades

stevelyn
January 13, 2006, 11:20 AM
Republic of Alaska.

VT style or CHL. Your choice.
Recognizes CHLs from all states. Don't have one? You can still carry when visiting.
Guns allowed in vehicles open or concealed, loaded or not (including long guns) your choice.
Open carry in all state and municiple jurisdictions. The Nazi Park Circus still prohibits carry in National Parks so stay away from Denali.
Very Class III friendly. Don't know of any CLEOs who won't sign off on the paperwork.
No restrictions on purchase other than federal.

carlrodd
January 13, 2006, 11:29 AM
delaware has very friendly gun laws....in my opinion. especially considering its proximity to new jersey, new york, maryland and dc.

kirkcdl
January 13, 2006, 11:52 AM
Excluding the Portland Metro area,Oregon is pretty much wide open on all weapon types,even auto knives...

TexasRifleman
January 13, 2006, 11:54 AM
From everything I've read over the years it's Alaska by a long lead......

Skeptic
January 13, 2006, 12:21 PM
The Peoples Democratic Socialist Utopian Republik of Maryland is not gun friendly.

Steelcore
January 13, 2006, 01:00 PM
You have to factor in other criteria.West Virginia is great for guns and other forms of outdoor recreation but really lousy for jobs.Virginia is not as good but has a much better job market.Gun freindliness shouldn't be your only criteria.

SilentStalker
January 13, 2006, 03:58 PM
Good old Alabama!

Lennyjoe
January 13, 2006, 04:43 PM
Arizona :D

Cosmoline
January 13, 2006, 05:46 PM
alaska is the answer...

can you still open carry there?

I do all the time. I even carry rifles openly in Spenard, at least from the car to the apartment. I've often wanted to try an experiment ditching all my firearms but a single rifle, and just carry that around openly in the city 24/7. But I'm not brave enough to try it.

MS .45
January 13, 2006, 05:48 PM
Mississippi has it pretty good at a 'D' rating. No waiting periods, no restrictions on weapons in vehicle (car is extention of home) and concealed carry permit with a little paper work. No open carry but I don't think I would anyway.

Libertyteeth
January 13, 2006, 05:59 PM
Montana is very good. You can open carry anywhere. You can carry concealed without a permit anywhere except in incorporated towns. (Except inside banks, bars, schools, gov't buildings.) You can carry concealed without a permit on your own property in your own business, even in town.

Permits are "shall issue".

You can carry in town if your gun is inside a purse, briefcase, backpack, etc, even without a permit. The requirement for a permit only applies to "concealed by an article of clothing".

There are no restrictions on carrying concealed or openly, loaded or not, in your vehicle.

There are no state restrictions on firearms type, including machine guns.

Montana has managed to exempt itself from the federal prohibition on carrying within 1000 feet of a school.

Montana has strong protections for shooting ranges, making them immune to complaints from neighbors. Also strong protections for the right to hunt, and prohibitions against hunter harassment.

Thain
January 13, 2006, 06:14 PM
Michigan gets a 'D+' which makes me pretty happy. You have to be 18 to possess or purchase a firearm. With "broad hunting exemptions" to quote the Brady Bunch, I can live these restrictions... even if Handgun Control, Inc. supports them too.

No laws punishing parents for storing loaded guns where they can be easily reached by the "poor widdle babies" my State expects me to teach my kids safety and isn't going to play nanny. Gunlocks must be sold with the weapon, but there are no standards (so they're the $.25 cheapies and barely impact price) and no law says I have to use one. (Although since my wife and I prefer soft cases for the longguns, we do lock them when in the car. BSTS.)

We're a reciprocal "shall issue" State, much to the dismay of the Brady Bunch, and the only preemption of state gun laws is that cities can restrict carry into public buildings beyond that of State laws.

The State did a fast end-run around handgun registartion, and just makes us apply for a "permit to purchase" for every gun we buy or transfer. This is really the only gun law on the books in Michigan that I don't like. Some hunters will b---h about the rule banning rifle hunting below a certain line in the Lower Mitten, but given the population density (and lower herd numbers) I have no issue with it. (It's also a DNR reg, not a gun control one.)

Lastly, Michigan has no namby-pamby "scary looking weapons" ban, and lawsuit sheilds for firearm manufacturers.

We also have the best forests, lakes, and rivers in the Union; We know hoe to appreciate real sports like hunting and hockey; and have just the right mix of urban and rural, left-wing hippies (Ann Arbor) and right-wing wackos (Michigan Militia) that things sort of balance out.

Heck, our state flag depicts a a man with raised hand and holding a long gun! Whichoffically represents peace and the ability to defend his rights! Si Quaeris Peninsulam Amoenam Circumspice

Car Knocker
January 13, 2006, 06:36 PM
Utah is shall issue.

Open carry.

Can CCW in bars, schools, state and local govt offices, the Capitol, public gatherings such as concerts and sporting events, churches unless the church has specifically prohibited CCW; essentially everywhere except secure areas such as airports, jails, courts, secure portion of mental hospital.

State Attorney-General is suing U of U over their prohibition of CCW by students and employees.

XLMiguel
January 13, 2006, 06:44 PM
For the East coast/mid-Atlantic region, Virginia is pretty good - 'shall issue', class III OK, etc. We have a few 'anomolies', e.g. no CCW in establishments that werve alcohol, but open carry is OK - go figure.

UWstudent
January 13, 2006, 06:54 PM
i swear i will move to alaska one of these days..

bigun15
January 13, 2006, 07:18 PM
California all the way baby.

Thain
January 13, 2006, 07:33 PM
:what:

Man, include a sarcasm smilie or something, I almost had a heart-attack.

DontBurnMyFlag
January 13, 2006, 08:26 PM
Go New Jersey!!!


ok, im lying.

hutch24
January 13, 2006, 09:24 PM
Alaska, we even advertise for concealed carry on the radio. :neener:

countertop
January 13, 2006, 09:28 PM
laws say vermont.. in practice, it probably varies by county and city

Nope, it doesn't vary at all. There are simply no gun laws on the books in Vermont.
Shall not be infringed means just that, shall not be infringed.

SomeKid
January 13, 2006, 09:31 PM
Mississippi has it pretty good at a 'D' rating. No waiting periods, no restrictions on weapons in vehicle (car is extention of home) and concealed carry permit with a little paper work. No open carry but I don't think I would anyway.

Not quite.

http://www.opencarry.org/

You CAN OC in MS, except for in cities which ban the practice.

Cosmoline
January 13, 2006, 10:23 PM
Nope, it doesn't vary at all. There are simply no gun laws on the books in Vermont.
Shall not be infringed means just that, shall not be infringed.

But there *ARE* a lot of people from certain states we shall not mention here living in Vermont. Which makes what laws are or are not on the book a moot point. I have a hard time believing I could whip out my SKS and shoot down trees for New Years in rural Vermont without causing a major uprising.

georgeduz
January 13, 2006, 10:27 PM
nj, ca, de,dc ,put them at the bottom.most crime and drugs ,rape, murder.put them at the top.

carp killer
January 13, 2006, 11:15 PM
I think there are some gun laws up here in ND. But I haven't seen any lately.:neener:

yomama
January 13, 2006, 11:19 PM
Quote {Excluding the Portland Metro area,Oregon is pretty much wide open on all weapon types,even auto knives...}


Auto knife's are illegal in Oregon.



166.240 Carrying of concealed weapons. (1) Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, any person who carries concealed upon the person any knife having a blade that projects or swings into position by force of a spring or by centrifugal force, any dirk, dagger, ice pick, slungshot, metal knuckles, or any similar instrument by the use of which injury could be inflicted upon the person or property of any other person, commits a Class B misdemeanor.

(2) Nothing in subsection (1) of this section applies to any peace officer as defined in ORS 133.005, whose duty it is to serve process or make arrests. Justice courts have concurrent jurisdiction to try any person charged with violating any of the provisions of subsection (1) of this section. [Amended by 1977 c.454 §1; 1985 c.543 §2; 1989 c.839 §21; 1999 c.1040 §15]

Rockrivr1
January 13, 2006, 11:30 PM
I'd also have to chime in on Vermont. No gun laws, they honor CCW permits from any state and yes, you can whip out your SKS and start mowing down trees on New Years Eve. There are common sense restrictions if I remember right. You have to be on private property or a large parcel of public property designated for shooting and I think there is a distance rule you have to follow to make sure your not shooting close to someone's house or a public road. Otherwise then that, your pretty much ready to go.

mrmeval
January 13, 2006, 11:32 PM
With a permit you can carry any firearm you want under your coat, the jury may disagree if you use it. You can't carry a switch blade, a throwing star period.

NFA registered sawed of shotguns are ok with a pistol grip, no shoulder stock allowed.

There is no restriction on any other weapon unless the feds restrict it.

There is a funding program for public ranges and quite a few private ones.

So which state is most gun friendly? Or do most states compare to one another in their friendliness?

How does the friendliness apply to:
Handguns, “assault rifles/weapons”, .50 BMG etc etc etc

Cosmoline
January 13, 2006, 11:37 PM
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1911HOP
January 13, 2006, 11:50 PM
mississippi does perment open carry you can walk to your hunting spot toting rifle shotgun pistol openly!

Kodiaz
January 13, 2006, 11:57 PM
Man I have to say the great state of FL. CCW shall issue and no duty to retreat anywhere. The weather is a lot better than Alaska but here the hunting sucks.

poortrader
January 13, 2006, 11:58 PM
Pennsylvania but also Indiana. I used to live there.

pokey074
January 14, 2006, 01:26 AM
You'd be hard pressed to find a better state than South Dakota. Plus, it's not as far north as Alaska.

rangerruck
January 14, 2006, 01:33 AM
i think n.h. is they are about to make it a felony if anybodly tries to conf guns as they did in n.o. after Katrina hit. and you can carry just about anywhere, from what i understand.

Cosmoline
January 14, 2006, 01:37 AM
You'd be hard pressed to find a better state than South Dakota. Plus, it's not as far north as Alaska.

Yeah, but it's colder and flatter than we are :D

pokey074
January 14, 2006, 01:52 AM
Yeah, but it's colder and flatter than we are :D

Flatter? Definitely. Colder? I've heard of some insanely cold temps and winds in AK. Is windy here, that's for sure.

cbsbyte
January 14, 2006, 01:58 AM
By far the "most gun friendly state" is Massachusetts...of course that was 200 years ago. :p I would say now it would be a toss up between Alaska or Vermont. If you like roughing it in the last frontier where the sun never sets and the polar bears roam...Alaska is your place; if you like wearing brekinstocks, going to Phish concerts, smoking/growing dope and eating alot of Ben & Jerry's ice cream than Vermont is your place. :neener:

Essex County
January 14, 2006, 12:39 PM
Vermont, No question Check the ATF's book ofstate laws and ordinances. Now I hope Cosmoline isn't pissed at Me.......By the was Dean is a carpetbagger from N.Y. and a disgrace to all good Vermonters.........Essex

xdoctor
January 14, 2006, 01:13 PM
Wyoming is another that is extremely friendly to gun owners.

Malone LaVeigh
January 14, 2006, 04:04 PM
Mississippi has it pretty good at a 'D' rating. No waiting periods, no restrictions on weapons in vehicle (car is extention of home) and concealed carry permit with a little paper work. No open carry but I don't think I would anyway.
Actually, according to that list, we went from D- to F in 2003. Now, that's my idea of progress.

mississippi does perment open carry you can walk to your hunting spot toting rifle shotgun pistol openly!
I remember doing exactly that in downtown Gulfport in the 70s. I'd be a little nervous trying it now, though. Oops, just noticed you said "hunting spot." I was thinking about taking my pump-action to the repair shop.

Gun_nut
January 14, 2006, 04:49 PM
im in oregon and i thinkk oregon is one of the most gunfriendly states...i went to a gun show and i saw me a fully automatic G3A3 there...for sale and a sers of submachine guns and assault rifle includeing ak's and sks's and some m16's there yes indded i think oregon is the state up there:)

1911Tuner
January 14, 2006, 06:15 PM
Don't know about now, but used to be that Vermont WANTED you to conceal the gun. The cops didn't want to see it in plain sight. Said that it might upset folks. No gun laws on the books indicates that they don't care if you have one or carry one as long as you don't bust somebody with it...unless of course, you have to in order to stay alive and healthy. Pretty friendly, I'd say.

smince
January 14, 2006, 06:27 PM
I'd still say Alabama. We went from a D+ to an F on the Brady scale.

I know of no restrictions except the standard NFA stuff. Although we aren't considered a "shall issue" state, unless you live in Jefferson county (Birmingham), or are a Person of Interest, it is reatively painless and quick to get a permit. I personally don't know of anyone without a record who has been denied. About 10 minutes and $25 in my county. The states we don't have reprocity with are states that I don't really plan to visit anyway.

parpat
January 14, 2006, 07:35 PM
Well Hawaii has to be near the BOTTOM of the list, maybefore Caliphony and Massawhochits ...:)

gezzer
January 14, 2006, 08:11 PM
Nope, it doesn't vary at all. There are simply no gun laws on the books in Vermont.
Shall not be infringed means just that, shall not be infringed.

Can't have no silencers in VT whats so great about that?

Gun_nut
January 21, 2006, 07:12 PM
i think that oregon is one of the most gunfriendly state you can buy i belive any rifle and get a full auto with a class 3 liscense and i think that to carry you neede a concealed wepon but you can buy any semi and any sized mag for that wepon and to shoot it also beleave you dont have to be in city limits too shoot it


*please pm me if im wrong on aything*

1c3d0g
January 21, 2006, 10:42 PM
Awesome information in this thread. :) God I wish I lived in Alaska... :cool:

Luku
January 22, 2006, 07:53 PM
If you don't want to move to vermont or alaska (the 2 most friendly IMHO), you might want to check out kentucky.

Pretty good gun laws. Open Carry, Gun laws at the state level only, no AW Ban.

Northwet
January 22, 2006, 09:59 PM
Listen to the scanner in Oregon sometime. If you have a CCW and have a traffic stop, when your driver's license is run the dispatcher will notify the officer that you have a CCW. Been that way for more than 20 years.
North"wet"

Dtron
January 22, 2006, 11:48 PM
In Shelby Co, Alabama all I had to do to get a Concealed Permit was print & fill out the form from Sheriff's website, send it in w/ $20 Money Order, and I received the permit in the mail 2 days later (good for 1 year).

No limit to amount of guns owned (or purchased at one the time that I know of). No wait period. No permit needed to purchase a gun. Just fill out the form, they call it in, and I walk out with my new gun 5 min later.

AR's & AK's and the like are easily obtainable (as long as they adhere to ATF Regulations.)

Doesn't get much easier than that!

Edit: Also scored an "F" on the Brady Scale. First time I've been happy to get an "F" :)

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