What States Deny CCWP For Traffic Violations


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Mizzle187
January 13, 2006, 06:35 PM
I came across an old thread in which a guy from S.C. was denied his renewal of his CCW permit becuase of a number of speeding tickets in the prior 4 years. It wasnt becuase he hadnt paid these tickets(which would of created warrants for his arrest which would make him ineligable anyway) becuase he had but its was because he had received these tickets and since they were considered misdameanors. He was then denied both appeals. I quit reading after that becuase it was a very long thread and it pissed me off. What other states use speeding violations(where tickets were paid)against you. I know Florida and Louisiana dont deny for this but what other states do or could?

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sumpnz
January 13, 2006, 08:38 PM
Not AZ.

ArmedBear
January 13, 2006, 08:42 PM
I came across an old thread in which a guy from S.C. was denied his renewal of his CCW permit becuase of a number of speeding tickets in the prior 4 years. It wasnt becuase he hadnt paid these tickets(which would of created warrants for his arrest which would make him ineligable anyway) becuase he had but its was because he had received these tickets and since they were considered misdameanors. He was then denied both appeals. I quit reading after that becuase it was a very long thread and it pissed me off. What other states use speeding violations(where tickets were paid)against you. I know Florida and Louisiana dont deny for this but what other states do or could?

Multiple misdemeanor speeding violations do show a certain, shall we say, lack of judgment?

Mizzle187
January 13, 2006, 08:46 PM
Multiple misdemeanor speeding violations do show a certain, shall we say, lack of judgment?


Oh I agree but even if someone got one speeding ticket a year I wouldnt personally say they used bad judgement. Plus it would suck if speeding was a misdemeanor in Louisiana.

RealGun
January 14, 2006, 09:36 AM
I came across an old thread in which a guy from S.C. was denied his renewal of his CCW permit becuase of a number of speeding tickets in the prior 4 years. It wasnt becuase he hadnt paid these tickets(which would of created warrants for his arrest which would make him ineligable anyway) becuase he had but its was because he had received these tickets and since they were considered misdameanors. He was then denied both appeals. I quit reading after that becuase it was a very long thread and it pissed me off. What other states use speeding violations(where tickets were paid)against you. I know Florida and Louisiana dont deny for this but what other states do or could?

SC does, because SLED is allowed regulatory discretion. Without a specific provision by the legislature, I think it is consistent for SLED to say that their role should ensure that licensees are "law abiding" people. Yes, we don't like it, but I fault the legislature for allowing SLED to make all the rules. It is noteworthy that at least our laws found it necessary to specify "shall issue". I will assume that if given their way, SLED would prefer that only they or their official superiors would or could have guns or carry them.

I don't regard the desire to drive as fast or irresponsibly as one pleases to be an entitlement. I wouldn't support using traffic tickets as a way of harassing people. I will say that we need more enforcement of traffic laws, judging from how defensive one must be and how blatant the violatons are that one can observe.

I don't support State licensing in the first place and am not an apologist for the State Police. Compared to some other States, we do have a tolerable status quo. It's just that I have to be especially conscientious about my driving, protecting my ability to renew what SC calls a "CWP". That doesn't please me, but I am already a careful driver and am not very sympathetic to those with chronic problems with traffic tickets.

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psyopspec
January 14, 2006, 09:52 AM
North Dakota doesn't, or I likely would have been denied.

Multiple misdemeanor speeding violations do show a certain, shall we say, lack of judgment?

Combine that with the two company pens I stole, and I'm on real crime streak.;)

PCGS65
January 14, 2006, 10:30 AM
Mizzle187, The way I see it it's just another way toward disarming us.:rolleyes:

Mizzle187
January 15, 2006, 03:18 PM
SC does, because SLED is allowed regulatory discretion. Without a specific provision by the legislature, I think it is consistent for SLED to say that their role should ensure that licensees are "law abiding" people. Yes, we don't like it, but I fault the legislature for allowing SLED to make all the rules. It is noteworthy that at least our laws found it necessary to specify "shall issue". I will assume that if given their way, SLED would prefer that only they or their official superiors would or could have guns or carry them.

I don't regard the desire to drive as fast or irresponsibly as one pleases to be an entitlement. I wouldn't support using traffic tickets as a way of harassing people. I will say that we need more enforcement of traffic laws, judging from how defensive one must be and how blatant the violatons are that one can observe.

I don't support State licensing in the first place and am not an apologist for the State Police. Compared to some other States, we do have a tolerable status quo. It's just that I have to be especially conscientious about my driving, protecting my ability to renew what SC calls a "CWP". That doesn't please me, but I am already a careful driver and am not very sympathetic to those with chronic problems with traffic tickets.

I would like to recommend use of a the spell checker. You can install either Spellbound for Firefox or IESpell for Internet Explorer, both free.


Ill stick with my own spelling capabilities. Makes me feel a little more human! Thanks for the concern though! Im glad you support those ideas. Honestly! Me on the other hand Im not perfect. I speed sometimes. Somtimes knowingly others not. But for that to be the judge of my ability to protect myself and the safety of others is ridiculous! Know I agree if someone was getting 10 speeding tickets a year that might show you that they are irresponsible but from how I understand in SC 1 speeding ticket could stop you from getting you CCW permit. Have you ever had a speeding ticket?

RealGun
January 15, 2006, 04:17 PM
I agree if someone was getting 10 speeding tickets a year that might show you that they are irresponsible but from how I understand in SC 1 speeding ticket could stop you from getting you CCW permit. Have you ever had a speeding ticket?

SLED has been challenged on the question of what the standard might be. I think I recall correctly that it is more than 5 tickets in the 5 most recent years. Then the application is declined and you go into an appeal process, kicking the question upstairs.

As I recall, my last speeding ticket was about 35 years ago. I am both lucky and relatively conscientious. SLED would be pleased. I do tend to get passed by other drivers. ;)

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