What is Your Choice of Personal Flashlight?


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CAPTAIN MIKE
January 14, 2006, 01:30 AM
I see a lot of ads for Sure-Fire Flashlights and I know there are other competitors out there as well. I'm looking to get something new but want it to be fairly compact but not one of those key-chain types. I want something that is about the the size of my hand or so.

Any advice?

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taliv
January 14, 2006, 01:35 AM
for the money, the surefire G2 is hard to beat. it's <$30 if you shop around

CAPTAIN MIKE
January 14, 2006, 02:07 AM
Thanks for the input.
Any other suggestions I might compare it to ??
Are those lithium batteries as good as people say?

Sberk1
January 14, 2006, 02:26 AM
Surefire is the way to go. Itís the most reliable high performance light made. Iíve compared Surefire to the competition, and they are hands down better built. (IMHO) I canít afford the best car made, or the best real estate, but I do own the best light.

el44vaquero
January 14, 2006, 03:06 AM
MagLite

orangeninja
January 14, 2006, 03:08 AM
I like the Inova lights. About 6 inches long and 82 lumens or 85 lumens of pure white light. LED white lights are like those car headlights that look blue-ish on the highway...you know, the ones that blind everyone? I think the Inova lights and pure white lights are the most blinding things available....it's like your eyes aren't made to process pure white.

lawson
January 14, 2006, 06:41 AM
I use a Streamlight Stinger. it's got sentimental value, it was given to me by my mentor who used it for 10+ years as a Homicide cop in Brooklyn.

it's not the smallest flashlight, but it's tough and reliable.

clipse
January 14, 2006, 10:39 AM
I don't really care for surefire. I had two P-60 lamp modules fail on me and I'm on my third. I don't use it much because I don't have much confidence in it.

My EDC lights are a Fenix L1P and an Amilite Neo T3

My "Bump in the Night" light is a Streamlight TL2 LED (2nd gen).

http://www.ponyexpress.net/~clipse/edc/favorites.jpg

These lights, imho, are the best lights for my purposes, short of custom lights. The fenix is about as wide as my fist from nuckle to nuckle(3.5") and has a Luxeon 1 LED driven by a AA battery. The streamlight is abit smaller than a Surefire G2 and has a Luxeon 3 LED driven by 2x123 batteries. The Amilite is much smaller and i my favorite light. Its brighter than both of the other lights but fits really well in the pocket. It has a Luxeon 3 LED driven by 1x123 battery.

clipse

MDG1976
January 14, 2006, 10:54 AM
Surefire G2 is a great deal. I also have a Surefire E2 Defender. It has a "crenelated bezel" that makes it a good impact weapon. Streamlight is a good brand too. I have a Twin Task that switches between a 30 lumen xenon bulb and a LED.

JMusic
January 14, 2006, 11:11 AM
I like the Surefires and buy them for all my inspectors and maintenance people. My current favorites are the E1L Outdoorsman and the E2L. These are 3 watt LED lights so you don't have the bulb issues others have spoken of. I have used the streamlight models and see nothing wrong with them also. One person recomended the Maglight. I carry a 4 or 5 cell Mag all the time in my vehicles. They are a very good defensive weapon. My favorite during the late 70's and early 80's was a 3 cell Mag size d.
Jim

Terrierman
January 14, 2006, 11:59 AM
I like my Streamlight twin task. I also like my Coast or something that I bought at Lowe's for $40 - absolutely the brightest freakin LED light I have ever seen. It's a well made machined aluminum light with a rubber mounted pushbutton in the butt that won't get operated by accident. I HAVE had the streamlight's side mounted switch get turned on by accident. The Coast runs on 3 AAA mounted cylindrically in a carrier inside the light's housing. I do like the lithiums in the streamlight though - very good life in use and supposed to last a long long time in storage. But I use my lights a lot when I'm hunting my little dogs and go through batteries well before the shelf life expires. I've got several Mag Lites too. Good light, and they are tough enough to use for critter dispatch duty as well as seeing in the dark. A 3 D or 4 D model is best for that purpose. Plus they are inexpensive enough to keep in every vehicle.

hksw
January 14, 2006, 12:00 PM
I've since moved on from xenon to 5W LEDs.

DigMe
January 14, 2006, 12:25 PM
I like my Streamlight twin task. I also like my Coast or something that I bought at Lowe's for $40 - absolutely the brightest freakin LED light I have ever seen.

Wait till you see some of the REALLY bright LED lights!

brad cook

DigMe
January 14, 2006, 12:28 PM
My most used lights are my Surefire G2 and my Streamlight ProPolymer 4AA Luxeon LED. Both great lights.

brad cook

Terrierman
January 14, 2006, 12:42 PM
Bright is good and brighter is better. I found the package on the Coast. It's 1.25 Watt LED that they say generates 117.6 milliwatts of light whatever that means. hksw posted about a 5 Watt LED. If that means in real world terms that its four times as bright as this Coast that hurts to look at, I want one. Who makes them? Streamlight I presume? Others?

Beren
January 14, 2006, 01:04 PM
I'm fond of both Streamlight and Surefire.

The Streamlight Strion is a great general purpose rechargeable light, with 80 lumens for about an hour in a package I can fit in the palm of my hand. I'll own a handful of Surefire lights by midyear: an X200B, M3, G2, and a Millenium railmount weapon light of some type for my AR.

DigMe
January 14, 2006, 01:54 PM
Bright is good and brighter is better. I found the package on the Coast. It's 1.25 Watt LED that they say generates 117.6 milliwatts of light whatever that means. hksw posted about a 5 Watt LED. If that means in real world terms that its four times as bright as this Coast that hurts to look at, I want one. Who makes them? Streamlight I presume? Others?

You can choose 5watt LED lights from a number of makers. Surefire has the L4 among others, which I believe is a fiver. Streamlight probably does make one and I'm pretty sure Inova does too. Then there are a number of different ones from cheaper companies too. There are also 3 watt LEDs which are also very bright.

brad cook

cslinger
January 14, 2006, 02:27 PM
Surefire A2 Aviator for around the house. HDS EDC Basic 60 or Ultimate 42 for in the pocket.

The A2 with the SIG P220
http://www.myfishingpictures.com/img/059007.JPG

The HDS is the little tiny guy on the end.
http://www.myfishingpictures.com/img/076560.JPG

f4t9r
January 14, 2006, 02:58 PM
Always used Mag Light and worked well and good price.
I am going to get a Stream light next time (next gun show)

black bear
January 14, 2006, 04:36 PM
I have a bunch of Surefires that I like and that I have used at one time or another as my main lights and EDC's.

I have been in love with the E2e for a few years I carried a E2E CJ "camo jungle" for a while, and also I like my L-4 digital Lumamax.
I have some modification of Surefires to output double the lumens, E2e plus, E2e -E2C- 120 lumens in the incandescents and I have some with PR T's heads 917 driver Luxeons III's that are courting 100 lumens.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/blackbear11784/GroupPRTs.jpg

For EDC in the summer I have used the E1e's and a E1e with a KL-4 head with a Mc Gizmo Bad Boy 600 driving a Luxeon I. (Collector's item now)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/blackbear11784/E1ecollection.jpg

BUT NOW IS 2006 !!!! AND I AM USING A FENIX L1P FOR EDC AND VERY HAPPY WITH IT.
AND MY REGULAR LIGHT NOW IS THE SUREFIRE AVIATOR A-2

When I need 200 lumens I go with a custom body with E2c and Z-44 bezel with the P-91 lamp, but I know that the bigger C-3 or the 9-P will do as well.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/blackbear11784/S5300007.jpg

If I need more than 200 lumens I'll go with one of my modifications on the Maglite body, I have them from 300 lumens to 951 lumens in all body sizes, 1 D, 2D's 3"D's and even 3 C sized.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/blackbear11784/blackbe-flash.jpg

They are GREAT defensive torchs, they blind and also good for club duty, and with the new Crenalleted bezel that I am bringing in, they can take guys like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/blackbear11784/kingkong.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/blackbear11784/bezelsteel.jpg

With glow powder to locate the torch in the dark

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/blackbear11784/SBR4.jpg

I WILL SAY THAT FLASHLIGHTS ARE GETTING BETTER THAN EVER !!!
Best regards
black bear

hksw
January 14, 2006, 06:22 PM
I've been getting my torches from Amondo Tech (http://www.amondotech.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=67) and haven't had any issue with them. The ones I have are the (1) ALX-253L and (2) TM-301X Nuwais. IMO, the stated 120 lumens is probably optimistic but they are brighter than my Scorpions and P6s. And they have a sharper blue tint to the beam. They use the Luxeon V.


blackbear, what are the prices of your modded Magliteģ torches?

Terrierman
January 14, 2006, 09:35 PM
Thanks for the link. I'm leaning towards the ALX 253L. The description in the review of this light as a "retina scorcher" sounds good to me when taken along with the other aspects covered in the design. The TM 301X looks like a nice enough unit too. Which do you prefer and why? Have you had any instances of either light getting turned on by accident? That's happened to my Streamlight and I'd like to avoid that if possible. In the reviews linked from the site you gave us, that also happened with one of the Nuwai lights. That eliminated that particular model.

black bear
January 14, 2006, 10:35 PM
hksw,

[quote] blackbear, what are the prices of your modded Magliteģ torches?[quote]

Thank you for your interest, I have several versions, please click on the link under my signature.

Best regards
black bear

DigMe
January 14, 2006, 10:38 PM
Thanks for the link. I'm leaning towards the ALX 253L. The description in the review of this light as a "retina scorcher" sounds good to me when taken along with the other aspects covered in the design. The TM 301X looks like a nice enough unit too. Which do you prefer and why? Have you had any instances of either light getting turned on by accident? That's happened to my Streamlight and I'd like to avoid that if possible. In the reviews linked from the site you gave us, that also happened with one of the Nuwai lights. That eliminated that particular model.

If you're looking at cheaper LED lights you may also want to take a look at this:
http://www.axshop.com/details.aspx/sku-1262

It's not truly a 7watt LED, it's an overdriven 3watt lux but all accounts are that it's one damn bright light. There've been a few guys talking about them over at www.candlepowerforums.com

brad cook

Darth Muffin
January 14, 2006, 11:15 PM
My EDC light is a Surefire E2e with an L4 head (5W LED, 65 lumens) and an Aleph 2-stage tailcap from Lighthound. With the 2 stage tailcap the flashlight is usable for everyday things without a) blinding you (it's TOO bright!) and b) worrying about chewing through those expensive lithium batteries.

Other lights I use are an Inova X1 for carry when space is tight (shorts in the summer, etc), a mini-maglight with a Niteize LED conversion (bright and the batteries last over 10 hours) is frequenly used when "working on" something like computers or cars, and then there's the good 'ol 4D mag light which still finds use.

I'm drooling over that Fenix posted above though, that looks very nice!

SAG0282
January 15, 2006, 12:20 AM
Surefire Z2 on my person, D cell Maglite in the car.

Ala Dan
January 15, 2006, 12:36 AM
Streamlight Strion

hksw
January 15, 2006, 10:33 PM
The TM 301X looks like a nice enough unit too. Which do you prefer and why? Have you had any instances of either light getting turned on by accident?

I prefer the 301 as it is ~5.125" as compared to the 7.000" of the 253. Maximum head diameter is also smaller at ~1.000" as opposed to ~1.375", i.e., the 301 is more compact, about the size of a Scorpion or 6P.

The tail swich on the 301 looks similar to the 6P but works like the Scorpion and requires less travel but more pressure to activate. Haven't had any problems of accidental activation. The 253 has a pressure switch similar to a MagLite but the switch is slightly recessed into the base of the head to prevent inadvertant activation and is stiffer than the ML.

The heavier knurling of the 301 is a little more secure to hold on to.

The beam of the 253 is a bit more defined with a definite edge between its bright spot at the center and the edges. The 301 being more diffuse, more so than the Scorpion and 6P. The 301 beam is more blue as compared to the 253 slightly red and the xenon yellow. (You really have to have the beams showing along side each other to note this.)

All of these flashlights' beams are painful to look at directly but the LED ones, IMO, are more so and quicker to discomfort as they are more white than the yellowish xenons. The effects of looking into the LED lights seem, to me at least, last longer than the xenon ones.

In short, the biggest selling point for my on the 301 over the 253 is its size. The 253 is still pretty good, though, IMO.

hksw
January 15, 2006, 11:00 PM
Thanks black bear, will do.

ruger357
January 16, 2006, 10:47 AM
Another vote for Surefire. I do keep a 3 D-Cell Maglight in my car though.

Terrierman
January 16, 2006, 04:45 PM
If you're looking at cheaper LED lights you may also want to take a look at this:
http://www.axshop.com/details.aspx/sku-1262

It's not truly a 7watt LED, it's an overdriven 3watt lux but all accounts are that it's one damn bright light. There've been a few guys talking about them over at www.candlepowerforums.com

brad cook

Wow, I had no idea I was living so far back in the dark ages. After reading a bit on that candlepower forum, I ordered three of those 7 watt hand sized flamethrowers, one for me, one for security tech son and one for a spare, along with 20 of the CR123A batteries. Sounds like an incredible light at a remarkable price according to the discussions. You switched me off the Nuwai I was going to order with that link. Thanks a lot, and I'll let folks here know how they work - though it is becoming painfully obvious to me and I assume others just how ignorant I really am when it comes to lights.

DigMe
January 16, 2006, 11:55 PM
Wow, I had no idea I was living so far back in the dark ages. After reading a bit on that candlepower forum, I ordered three of those 7 watt hand sized flamethrowers, one for me, one for security tech son and one for a spare, along with 20 of the CR123A batteries. Sounds like an incredible light at a remarkable price according to the discussions. You switched me off the Nuwai I was going to order with that link. Thanks a lot, and I'll let folks here know how they work - though it is becoming painfully obvious to me and I assume others just how ignorant I really am when it comes to lights.

I'm going back and forth on whether or not I'm gonna buy one myself. Even though they're cheap I don't have much disposable income at the moment. Tough to beat that price though!

When you get them do a comparison on all three if you can and let us know if the beam is consistent among them. Someone just started a thread today at CPF who bought 3 in Hong Kong and they all three had different beams. Another guy bought two though and they both had the same identical awesome, white beams. Don't forget that they have adjustable beams/heads too.

brad cook

LAK
January 17, 2006, 07:59 AM
Streamlight Scorpion, a Mini Mag, a SureFire E2, a Streamlight Twin Task (3 x 'C'-cell). And an assortment of other lesser lamps down to the tiny keychain-type LED for general utility and mundane tasks.

I consider the Scorpion the best value for money for a lamp intended for serious business. They can be has for as little as $25 a piece I believe these days, are just the right size and work superbly.
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roo_ster
January 17, 2006, 03:57 PM
I was a Maglight man for years.

Then I bought a Surefire G2 Nitrolon for $34. It was so good that my wife swiped it for her uses. Smart gal, she is.

So, then I bought the 6P for $56. I like the lock out tail cap feature.

I still have Maglights, but they (6D & 3D) are really clubs that also provide light.

TheFrontRange
January 17, 2006, 08:26 PM
For a couple of years now (maybe 3) I've been using the Brinkmann "Legend" line of lights. The first ones I found were stainless steel with a rubber-lined grip, adjustable beam, and push-button switch at the tail...they're okay but a touch heavy...managed to drop them more than once and that almost always resulted in a blown bulb.

Next they came out with line in black plastic that also have the rubber-lined grip and tailcap push-button, but are non-adjustable. Of the two, I prefer the latter as they're lighter and more "drop-resistant." Both are xenon-bulb models and use two 123 lithium batteries.

I apologize for not having more specifics on the names of these models...seems that one is the "Legend" while the other is the "Legend LX." Both retail for around $20 at WalMart, Academy Sports and Outdoors, etc. I have two of each model right now, with the heavy ones used as "utility lights" around the house while the lighter ones stay near whatever handgun I have handy.

I also picked up a Streamlight TwinTask light a while back that I think is going to become my main around-the-house utility light. It's a one-cell 123 lithium-powered light, black metal casing, with an on-body switch that provides either xenon bulb lighting with one push or LED lighting with a second push.

My main wish for all of the above lights: a pocket clip! The lack of this feature will I'm sure lead me to a SureFire or comparable light one of these days! :)

Serpico
January 17, 2006, 09:50 PM
Strion and an Arc AAA in my watch pocket...

DigMe
January 18, 2006, 12:04 AM
I apologize for not having more specifics on the names of these models...seems that one is the "Legend" while the other is the "Legend LX." Both retail for around $20 at WalMart, Academy Sports and Outdoors, etc. I have two of each model right now, with the heavy ones used as "utility lights" around the house while the lighter ones stay near whatever handgun I have handy.


The metal one is the Legend LX and the plastic one is the Maxfire LX. I have the Legend as a kitchen drawer light near the backdoor. Although now my Streamlight ProPoly 4AA Lux gets most of the backyard duty. Mine has the adjustable beam but I've heard that the new ones are no longer adjustable.

I used to think the Maxfire was a good value but after this oct. 05 update at flashlightreviews.com I'm more leery of them...especially as a tac light that your life could possibly depend on:


UPDATE Oct 2005: I bought another one recently for some testing at the request of a reader. The good news is that since the original review, Brinkmann got rid of the junk batteries and are now including much better GE/Sanyo cells. The bad news is that it flickered badly during the start of the runtime test. Then it went out. Upon investigation I found that the pins of the bulb were not attached to the contact plates on the bulb assembly in any way except for friction. The original bulb had the bulb pins tack-welded to the contact plates. This one did not. If you purchase one, CHECK THE BULB PINS IMMEDIATELY UPON OPENING. If you can push on them with your fingernail and they slide around on the contact plates, return the light as defective and try another. The defective light was returned and the next one I purchased was assembled correctly. Oh, and you can now get this light for 16.99 at Target dept. stores and it includes a vinyl belt sheath.


http://www.flashlightreviews.com/reviews/brinkmann_maxfirelx.htm

Besides, you can get a surefire G2 for 10 bucks more. Or at least a Digilight maybe for close to the same price as the Brinkmann.

brad cook

TheFrontRange
January 18, 2006, 12:23 AM
Besides, you can get a surefire G2 for 10 bucks more. Or at least a Digilight maybe for close to the same price as the Brinkmann.

brad cook[/QUOTE]

Most interesting...thanks for the info...I may need to do some light-shopping sooner than I thought! :)

Terrierman
January 19, 2006, 02:00 AM
When you get them do a comparison on all three if you can and let us know if the beam is consistent among them. Someone just started a thread today at CPF who bought 3 in Hong Kong and they all three had different beams. Another guy bought two though and they both had the same identical awesome, white beams. Don't forget that they have adjustable beams/heads too.

brad cook

I'll be happy to do that. I'll even try to get a digital of the beams of them and post that up. Thanks for the lead and the links.

MS .45
January 19, 2006, 05:22 PM
There are several that I would recomend for use:

Pelican M6- inexpensive but bright and tough $30
Streamlight Scorpion-LED model had 2 hrs. regulated runtime $40
Surefire G2- good light for the price $34
Streamlight Strion- very bright, rechargable, full recharge in 2 hrs. $100

All these lights are roughly the same size in the 5 to 6" range.
The prices will vary from place to place. I buy a lot from Brightguy.com

MarineTech
January 21, 2006, 06:15 AM
In my nightstand, I keep a Surefire G2 for defense, and a 4 D Cell Maglite for general lighting. I also, keep another 4 D Cell Maglite in my car.

I will say this though. I am not at all happy with the quality of the current production Maglites. In 1991, I bought my first Maglite while on Camp Guard as a Marine out at 29 Palms. They were sold in the MCX on base, and were the only authorized replacement for the standard issue flashlight (which was crap). All the MPs carried them because of the much greater lighting potential they provided. As I recall, price on the 4 D-Cell version back then was about $70. Not exactly cheap on a young PFC's salary, but worth every penny. That Maglite has sat in the glove compartment of every vehicle I've owned since then and was utterly reliable. About 4 months ago, that Maglite finally gave up the ghost and had been beat beyond the point of repair. Time for replacement had arrived. I went to the local Walmart to pick up a replacement. I was stunned to see that the price had dropped to just over $20 for the 4 D Cell. I picked up 2. One for the car, one for the house. I am less than happy. The quality of these 2 units is nowhere near what that original light was. During a recent power outage in November during an ice storm, the light I bought for the house continuously flickered and stuttered. The light in my car displayed similar performance. Battery and bulb replacement has done nothing to alleviate the situation with either unit. In mid-December, I sent a letter to Mag-Lite detailing my history with their products and my displeasure with their current quality. I also expressed to them that I would be happy to pay the much higher price of the original unit if I could get a light of similar quality. I have yet to get a response from them.

I will not buy another Mag-lite until things improve, and I'll probably be replacing both lights within the next 2 months once I get my Christmas bills paid off.

oflores
January 21, 2006, 06:20 AM
Go with a SURE FIRE You wil be THAKFULL, BEST LIGHT MONEY CAN BUY
CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE!!!!!

DigMe
January 22, 2006, 05:55 PM
I will not buy another Mag-lite until things improve, and I'll probably be replacing both lights within the next 2 months once I get my Christmas bills paid off.

Sounds like a good idea. There are far better lights available than a maglite...even your old, reliable one.

brad cook

Ala Dan
January 22, 2006, 07:51 PM
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BryanP
January 22, 2006, 08:06 PM
In my pocket I carry a little no-name LED flashlight powered by a single AAA battery (and not much larger). It's good enough for most tasks. But I won't be blinding any bad guys with it.

black bear
January 23, 2006, 09:25 AM
In my nightstand, I keep a Surefire G2 for defense, and a 4 D Cell Maglite for general lighting. I also, keep another 4 D Cell Maglite in my car.

I will say this though. I am not at all happy with the quality of the current production Maglites. In 1991, I bought my first Maglite while on Camp Guard as a Marine out at 29 Palms. They were sold in the MCX on base, and were the only authorized replacement for the standard issue flashlight (which was crap). All the MPs carried them because of the much greater lighting potential they provided. As I recall, price on the 4 D-Cell version back then was about $70. Not exactly cheap on a young PFC's salary, but worth every penny. That Maglite has sat in the glove compartment of every vehicle I've owned since then and was utterly reliable. About 4 months ago, that Maglite finally gave up the ghost and had been beat beyond the point of repair. Time for replacement had arrived. I went to the local Walmart to pick up a replacement. I was stunned to see that the price had dropped to just over $20 for the 4 D Cell. I picked up 2. One for the car, one for the house. I am less than happy. The quality of these 2 units is nowhere near what that original light was. During a recent power outage in November during an ice storm, the light I bought for the house continuously flickered and stuttered. The light in my car displayed similar performance. Battery and bulb replacement has done nothing to alleviate the situation with either unit. In mid-December, I sent a letter to Mag-Lite detailing my history with their products and my displeasure with their current quality. I also expressed to them that I would be happy to pay the much higher price of the original unit if I could get a light of similar quality. I have yet to get a response from them.

I will not buy another Mag-lite until things improve, and I'll probably be replacing both lights within the next 2 months once I get my Christmas bills paid off.

MarineTech,
Hi, perhaps I can help with your lights' flickering problem.
You see, I built my modifications (MAG 951 II and others) on Maglite flashlights, and I can assure you that the new models are more relaiable that the old ones (I have two of the old ones to compare) They haven't change much but the switch in the new units is better.

I have built over 90 of my modifications (The MAG 951, the most powerful flashlight in the world) and I understant them well, the flickering you describe is consistent with a loose negative contact in the switch housing and that is an assembler error.
To correct the situation you need to pluck the rubber button and introduce in the hole that is in the center of the switch a long 5/64 hex wrench, and tight this "worm" screw down hard.
That screw is the one that secure the switch to the flashlight tube, if you want to remove the entire switch for any reason you unscrew this "worm" jam screw several times and pull out the switch from the rear of the light.

You may have to do this if the tightening of the screw don't solution the flickering, because the point that the screw touch in the bottom of the flashlight (which is anodized outside and inside) should touch on bare aluminum, is the anodizing at the point where the screw touches is not removed properly the contact is poor and can produce the flickering you mention.

When I do my modifications to these lights I also modify the switch for less internal resistance, change the reflector for a solid aluminum one, change the plastic lens for a Pyrex and put special battery carriers, when the light is finished it is the most reliable light you can have.

If you can not fix the light with the tips I gave you, just P. M. me for further discussion of any problem.
I can assure you that that is not normal and is probably and assembler error in not tightening properly that screw.
Best regards
black bear

shooting time
January 23, 2006, 10:30 AM
I used to have a bunch of maglites but started using a streamlight ultra stinger rechargable in the truck and carrying a streamlight scorpion on me they both work great

stevelyn
January 23, 2006, 10:56 AM
I like both the SF and Streamlight products.

One comment about the Pelican M6. Pelican products are of generally good quality and the M6 is a bright, tough light. However, the tail-cap switch on the M6 needs to be refined a little more. It dosen't have the degree of control that the SF switches do.

neoncowboy
January 23, 2006, 11:26 AM
Surefired E2D in back pocket (or the carharrt left side pocket) of pants and photon LED on a lanyard around my neck.

TrapperReady
January 24, 2006, 01:18 AM
Photon Microlight on the keychain. Maglights in the house and cars/truck. Surefire Aviator (w/ red LED) on the backpack I use for hunting and hiking.

VWTim
January 25, 2006, 01:09 AM
I carry a Streamlight TL-2 EDC in a weak side pouch, a LED mod'd Solitaire loose in my left front pocket, and a Fenix L0P (very small 1xAAA light w/ a 1 watt Luxeon) in my right pocket. Like Blackbear I've got a lot of modded Maglites around the house, and a Strion I use for work.

BrightFlashlights
February 13, 2006, 08:33 PM
For personal carry, there are several are on my list:

Surefire:

E2D Defender configured with the non-flaired Z61 tailcap

E2L Outdoorsman (current favorite)


Streamlight:

Scorpion

TL2-LED

TL3 (incredible throw)


PentagonLights:

PX1

L2-HA 3w LED (excellent performance)

.40-.45
February 13, 2006, 11:38 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/pd1616/P1010281.jpg

a2 is my choice
the dual mode is why its my choice

Fred Fuller
February 14, 2006, 10:58 AM
Nuwai 'Big Q3'- aka the TM301x3. Great light for not a ton'o'money, 3-watt LED with two levels (lo beam and hi beam).

http://www.flashlightreviews.com/reviews/nuwai_tm301x3.htm

http://www.amondotech.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=816

lpl/nc

Devonai
February 14, 2006, 09:37 PM
I'm extremely pleased with my Insight Technologies M2 UTL. Unlike the M3, this version has an on/off switch in addition to the on/momentary toggle. This makes it much more desireable for pocket carry, as the M3 that I used to have was too easily activated by accident. They can get hot. :eek:

Run time is around two hours with CR123 batteries, but it's brighter than my 6-D cell Maglite and it fits my USP full-size, USP compact, and my Glock 22!

Terrierman
February 22, 2006, 11:28 PM
I'm going back and forth on whether or not I'm gonna buy one myself. Even though they're cheap I don't have much disposable income at the moment. Tough to beat that price though!

When you get them do a comparison on all three if you can and let us know if the beam is consistent among them. Someone just started a thread today at CPF who bought 3 in Hong Kong and they all three had different beams. Another guy bought two though and they both had the same identical awesome, white beams. Don't forget that they have adjustable beams/heads too.

brad cook

They finally came. I've had them about ten days. Picture with my digital is a no go- major washout. They are all three VERY bright and have beams that are essentially identical. They are not nearly as blue as some other LED's I've seen. Slight bluish tinge, but more white than most. I can't quarrel with the quality on any level. The tail switch works reliably on all three (so far), the machining and anodizing is up to scratch too. The focusing mechanism works and can get you to a nice tight beam without any dead spots in the middle.

The longest I've used one yet is about 20 minutes straight. Had to walk down into the woods to retrieve one of my terriers that had an Armadillo bayed in a hole. The light stayed the same brightness and did not get hot, though it was a cold night out and that might have affected the temp gain. The light does have some rings around the bulb area that I guess are for heat dissipation?

Maybe the nicest surprise was with the extra batteries I ordered. Ordered 20 @ $1.50 each, thinking I'd get 20 batteries (duh!). Well, I got 20 PAIR of batteries for that price. NOT BAD!

Thanks for the leads, I like the lights and would recommend them - great bargain!

84B20
February 23, 2006, 01:28 PM
My choice is Surefire. I keep it with me always. Important when you have a CCW.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/ricklevine/surfire.jpg

SixForSure
February 23, 2006, 06:35 PM
Check out the Gladius.

http://www.night-ops.com/Gladius-6V-LED.html

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