9/11 Was an Inside Job


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ResearchGuy
January 14, 2006, 08:31 PM
http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html

9-11 Research
An Attempt to Uncover the Truth About September 11th, 2001
We all know the official story of September 11th: four jetliners were hijacked by groups of four and five Arabic men armed with box cutters, who proceeded to fly three of the four jets into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. Subsequently the World Trade Center Towers, weakened by the impacts and fires, collapsed into piles of rubble. Later in the afternoon 47-story Building 7, also weakened by fire, collapsed. (Or did you miss that detail?) The FBI had compiled a list of hijackers within three days, and it was so obvious that Osama bin Laden had masterminded the operation from caves in Afghanistan, that there was no need to seriously investigate the crime or produce evidence. The "retaliatory" attack on the Taliban would soon commence.

Is this story true? Its central assumptions have never been seriously tested. There are numerous red flags in the official story, which requires a long series of highly improbable coincidences. Questioning that story is an act of responsible citizenship.

9-11RESEARCH DEBUNKS NIST'S WTC REPORT

NEW: Building a Better Mirage: NIST's 3-Year $20,000,000 Cover-Up of the Crime of the Century (http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/nist/index.html) -- NIST's Report sidesteps the very question it purported to investigate: what caused the total destruction of the World Trade Center's Twin Towers? Version 1.0, just published, critiques NIST's Final Report.

... RESPONDS TO MAINSTREAM PRESS ATTACKS

RECENT: Scientific American's Dishonest Attack On 911Research (http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/sciam/index.html)

RELATED: Popular Mechanics Magazine Targets 9/11 Skepticism (http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pm/index.html)

... AND CONFRONTS EFFORTS TO SABOTAGE 9/11 TRUTH

NEW: Revealed OR Concealed?: A Critical Review of 9/11 Revealed (http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/911revealed/index.html) -- A book purporting to speak for the 9/11 Truth Movement pushes long-discredited hoaxes.

RECENT: A Critical Review of Morgan Reynolds' Why Did the Trade Center Skyscrapers Collapse? (http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/reynolds/index.html) -- Former US Labor Department chief economist sandwiches bad science between rehash of demolition evidence.

RELATED: The Pentagon No-757-Crash Theory: Booby Trap for 9/11 Skeptics (http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagontrap.html) -- The flawed Pentagon no-jetliner theory is the most successful idea used to keep 9/11 Truth marginalized.

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springmom
January 14, 2006, 08:59 PM
And I'm the Easter bunny.

Springmom

TexasRifleman
January 14, 2006, 09:01 PM
Hey ResearchGuy, your fly is unzipped......

What happened Justin? You wanted to see the fur fly after all? :evil:

Justin
January 14, 2006, 09:05 PM
I'm just a jerk that way.

Also, I don't want to poach on Art's territory.

molonlabe
January 14, 2006, 09:13 PM
Getch red hot AFDB while they last. There are rumors the guberment is going to ban alumunum foil folowed shortly therafter by automobiles, booze, guns, ammo, knives, and large pointy sticks.

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/http://zapatopi.net/afdb/testimonials/afdbtest.tcruise.jpg

Old Dog
January 14, 2006, 09:19 PM
His first post, too ...

Technosavant
January 14, 2006, 09:23 PM
Oh, really?

You know, I guess you are right. I will completely forget everything I have learned thus far about it on the authority of some guy on the internet who makes his FIRST post to a firearms board, and it doesn't even have anything to do with guns!

Good thing I wasn't over at Sarah Brady's site, I guess.

taliv
January 14, 2006, 09:23 PM
coincidentally, i almost posted this most excellent bit of tinfoil hattery (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194) a few hrs ago, but decided it was off topic.

enjoy


(I remain undecided myself)


edit: btw, that link goes to google video... it's about an hour long. worth the watch, if for nothing more than the video archives of the towers collapsing. it is a compilation of most of the professional and amature videos of the event

Fly320s
January 14, 2006, 09:24 PM
Hey, molonlabe,

Can I get mine in a double, with gold plating?

telomerase
January 14, 2006, 09:30 PM
There are rumors the guberment is going to ban alumunum foil

Well, they did double the price of aluminum by keeping scrap aircraft off the market in 1946... forcing people to use the more expensive tinfoil for hats.

Sheldon J
January 14, 2006, 09:31 PM
This has been gone over in great detail and not just on the internet where you can put any nutcse theory out for others to laugh at. Even 60 minutes covered this finding no truth to the issues and they hate Bush. :banghead:

nfl1990
January 14, 2006, 09:32 PM
RELATED: Popular Mechanics Magazine Targets 9/11 Skepticism

That article pretty much disproved EVERY conspiracy theroy related to 9/11.

Hkmp5sd
January 14, 2006, 09:42 PM
Isn't it truly amazing that the same people that believe our government is a bunch of idiots that invaded Iraq only to find no WMD, can on the other hand, pull off a virtually impossible operation convincing hundreds of millions of people worldwide that terrorists flew airliners into buildings, collapsing them and killing thousands?

lostone1413
January 14, 2006, 09:56 PM
Hard to really say. Seen alot of people that aren't dummies say that it would be impossible for the towers to fall the way they want you to believe. Guess it gets down to if you trust your goverment and the cooperate elite who really run the country.

Standing Wolf
January 14, 2006, 10:03 PM
It was a conspiracy, I tell you, a gosh-darned no good evil un-American conspiracy.

You know: the kind we like best.

palerider1
January 14, 2006, 10:15 PM
please dont start another conspiracy theory like the Kennedy assasination. some people have too much imagination. take 9/11 for what it is.

Phaetos
January 14, 2006, 10:36 PM
Go away troll! :cuss: :cuss: :fire: :fire: :cuss: :cuss: :mad: :mad:

c_yeager
January 14, 2006, 10:41 PM
Yes, Bush and company staged 9/11 to justify a war in Iraq. It was the most complex and intricately planned operation in the history of the world. Then in the midst of the turmoil in Iraq someone just forgot to write "WMD" on the side of a crate and plant it in an abandoned warehouse in Iraq. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Good conspiracy theories arent supposed to fall apart untill you start stabbing at their soft underbelly of details and facts. This one is laughable on it's face, and frankly, anyone who buys it is standing underneath all of the UFO people on the ladder of mockery.

Wllm. Legrand
January 14, 2006, 10:47 PM
Well, well, well....

If some of you smarmy, sarcastic, "smart guys" who have not researched the issue beyond that of what you read in the "mainstream media" (a venue that seems to be replete with faults, by the admissions of most persons) can explain the numerous inconsistencies, statistical impossibilities, and best of all, WHY BUILDING # 7 FELL when it did not suffer significant damage, then do so. Until then, throw out your ad hominum "tinfoil hat" garbage accusations. It really is quite amusing to read the posts of people who don't believe the government in so many things, yet believe the crappola that dispensed from day one about the 9/11 conspiracy. Yes, it was a conspiracy. Do you believe the unbelievable that the government tells you or is there perhaps another explanation that may cover all, or at least more, of the availble facts?

Until you know what you're talking about, why dont' you spend less time in front of a t.v. and read up on the subject. I have. As with so may things that are "common knowledge" or things that "everybody knows", the official explanation for 9/11 is Bravo Sierra. I used to belive in the fairy tales and the official line about the "Civil War" and Saint Abraham Lincoln, too...but with effort ignorance doesn't last forever.

It's unbelievable the things you have to believe to accept the official story as true.

rock jock
January 14, 2006, 10:51 PM
Well, well, well....

If some of your smarmy, sarcastic, "smart guys" who have not researched the issue beyond that of what you read in the "mainstream media" (a venue that seems to be replete with faults, by the admissions of most persons) can explain the numerous inconsistencies, statistical impossibilities, and best of all, WHY BUILDING # 7 FELL when it did not suffer significant damage, then throw out your ad hominum "tinfoil hat" garbage accusations. It really is quite silly to read people who don't believe the government in so many things believes the crappola that dispensed from day one about the 9/11 conspiracy. Yes, it was a conspiracy. Do you believe the unbelievable that the government tells you or is there perhaps another explanation that may cover all, or at least more, of the availble facts?

Until you know what you're talking about, why dont' you spend less time in front of a t.v. and read up on the subject. I have. As with so may things that are "common knowledge" or things that "everybody knows", the official explanation for 9/11 is Bravo Sierra. I used to belive in the fairy tales and the official line about the "Civil War" and Saint Abraham Lincoln, too...but with effort ignorance doesn't last forever.

It's unbelievable the things you have to believe to accept the official story as true.
No significant damage, huh? I guess what we saw on TV was just a model plane. I love people who couldn't even explain an overturning moment dismissing the straighforward explanations of PhD structural engnineers.

Wllm. Legrand
January 14, 2006, 10:53 PM
And?

Hkmp5sd
January 14, 2006, 10:58 PM
Until you know what you're talking about, why dont' you spend less time in front of a t.v. and read up on the subject. I have. As with so may things that are "common knowledge" or things that "everybody knows", the official explanation for 9/11 is Bravo Sierra.
I have read (and still have in my personal libarary) about 50 books on 9/11, including several that debunk this conspiracy junk issue by issue. How many do I have to read before I can make an educated conclusion?

BTW, how does building #7 collapsing affect anything? If is was still standing, the government would still have acted in the same manner. Why was it necessary to collapse that single building to aid the conspiracy? The government would have invaded Afghanistan if none of the buildings had collapsed.

Wllm. Legrand
January 14, 2006, 11:11 PM
No significant damage, huh? I guess what we saw on TV was just a model plane. I love people who couldn't even explain an overturning moment dismissing the straighforward explanations of PhD structural engnineers.

What in G*d's name are you TALKING ABOUT?

Bldg. 7 was not struck by any plane. You DO know that three buildings fell that day, don't you?

Wllm. Legrand
January 14, 2006, 11:13 PM
I have read (and still have in my personal libarary) about 50 books on 9/11, including several that debunk this conspiracy junk issue by issue. How many do I have to read before I can make an educated conclusion?

BTW, how does building #7 collapsing affect anything? If is was still standing, the government would still have acted in the same manner. Why was it necessary to collapse that single building to aid the conspiracy? The government would have invaded Afghanistan if none of the buildings had collapsed.

The above quote makes as much sense as reading Sandburg's biography of LIncoln and still believing the "Standard Model" for the Civil War.

The collapse of bldg #7 not be significant? Brother, I've got bridge in Brooklyn to sell you, in that case.

I am not postulating any specific theory, but am saying that the official conspiracy theory that is pure crappola. Oh..and yes, I guess Oswald DID do it by himself. Yeah, that's the ticket....

I imagine people who probably haven't had even a high school physics class can believe the official line. The simple, concise, packaged official story line is bunk. I'm all for Occam's Razor, but not on this.

seansean
January 14, 2006, 11:16 PM
I SWEAR I'm not trying to start a flame war, but....as someone who is a NY'er, and has been in just about every part of WTC 1, 2, and 7, multiple times, (I had a job as a messenger),I don't buy the official story either. Never did. This guy may be a troll, but he's right about 7 world trade. It collapsed, and it wasn't hit by anything. Gerald Posner is THE guy the MSM likes to trot out to debunk anyone who questions the official story...his theory is that diesel fuel stored in the basement of wtc7 caught fire somehow, weakening the steel and making the building collapse...not a plausible explanation to me. I don't claim to know what happened, but it didn't happen the way the U.S. gov SAYS it happened, IMO. Don't even get me started on the lack of air defense, considering the amount of bases with intercept aircraft on the east coast. Somethin' ain't right, that's all I'm saying.

Hkmp5sd
January 14, 2006, 11:16 PM
Actually, it looks like we may be in agreement on the Civil War, however...


As stated, if building #7 had not collapsed, what would be different today?? Are you saying building #7 collapsing PROVES that the twin towers were blown up instead of collapsing from damage?

Time for the old padlock.

Kim
January 14, 2006, 11:19 PM
I can not believe anyone would even consider this bunk. There is about 10% of the population that is paranoid schizophrenic and a certain number of those are off their medication. This is a fact.:eek:

JohnKSa
January 14, 2006, 11:22 PM
WARNING! BEFORE reading farther, please read the disclaimer at the end of the post.Then in the midst of the turmoil in Iraq someone just forgot to write "WMD" on the side of a crate and plant it in an abandoned warehouse in Iraq. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.Yup, managed to fool the entire world about 9/11 in spite of the fact that it happened in plain view in one of the largest cities in the world, and then we couldn't even manage to plant a few WMDs in Iraq, a country over which (at the time) we had virtually complete military control. :rolleyes:

Amazing how that works, huh... ;)

Wllm. Legrand
January 14, 2006, 11:28 PM
I SWEAR I'm not trying to start a flame war, but....as someone who is a NY'er, and has been in just about every part of WTC 1, 2, and 7, multiple times, (I had a job as a messenger),I don't buy the official story either. Never did. This guy may be a troll, but he's right about 7 world trade. It collapsed, and it wasn't hit by anything. Gerald Posner is THE guy the MSM likes to trot out to debunk anyone who questions the official story...his theory is that diesel fuel stored in the basement of wtc7 caught fire somehow, weakening the steel and making the building collapse...not a plausible explanation to me. I don't claim to know what happened, but it didn't happen the way the U.S. gov SAYS it happened, IMO. Don't even get me started on the lack of air defense, considering the amount of bases with intercept aircraft on the east coast. Somethin' ain't right, that's all I'm saying.

That is EXACTLY my point.

p.s. I hope you are not referring to ME as the troll.

bjbarron
January 14, 2006, 11:31 PM
I SWEAR I'm not trying to start a flame war, but....as someone who is a NY'er, and has been in just about every part of WTC 1, 2, and 7, multiple times, (I had a job as a messenger),I don't buy the official story either. Never did. This guy may be a troll, but he's right about 7 world trade.

I was there too, and watched it from a highrise up by 40th and Madison. I see it a bit differently.

With the force those things hit the ground, and the way the debris spread out for blocks around, I'm just surprised that all the adjacent buildings didn't come down. Most of them had damage to the face toward the WTC, and at least one of them is still under repair and may need to come down even now. I took this picture in June.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/bjbarron/blogfiles/wtc3.jpg

This wasn't a controlled demolition like you see on the tube...this was a freakin’ nightmare. Look at the footprint....

http://bjbarron.thatip.com:81/blogfiles/damage.jpg

Wllm. Legrand
January 14, 2006, 11:32 PM
Actually, it looks like we may be in agreement on the Civil War, however...


As stated, if building #7 had not collapsed, what would be different today?? Are you saying building #7 collapsing PROVES that the twin towers were blown up instead of collapsing from damage?

Time for the old padlock.

On the contrary. I'm not about to commit that fallacy. My point is that there are inconsistencies that obligate a critical thinker to reconsider the premises of those that dish out the offical line. When you encounter an inconsistency, re-examine those premises. It doesn't pass the smell test.

There are plenty of such inconsistencies.

Wllm. Legrand
January 14, 2006, 11:36 PM
I can not believe anyone would even consider this bunk. There is about 10% of the population that is paranoid schizophrenic and a certain number of those are off their medication. This is a fact.:eek:

Perhaps. And half the population couldn't tell you the sides in the WW I and WWII. Most couldn't tell you how water condenses out of the air. Most people are flippin' stupid nowadays, the younger, the more stupid.

Heck, most people believe that Germany was the "BAD GUY" in WW I. Just because a lot of people believe something does not make it so. Recent history is rife with examples.

Or does it need to be spelled out?

Wllm. Legrand
January 14, 2006, 11:38 PM
Time for the old padlock.

I guess I'm just new here...Whenever a contentious issue is discussed, one where sensibilities may be offended, threads are "locked"?

:rolleyes:

seansean
January 14, 2006, 11:42 PM
I was there too, and watched it from a highrise up by 40th and Madison. I see it a bit differently.

With the force those things hit the ground, and the way the debris spread out for blocks around, I'm just surprised that all the adjacent buildings didn't come down. Most of them had damage to the face toward the WTC, and at least one of them is still under repair and may need to come down even now. I took this picture in June.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/bjbarron/blogfiles/wtc3.jpg

This wasn't a controlled demolition like you see on the tube...this was a freakiní nightmare.

I hear what you're saying, but damage is one thing, actual collapse is another. Where I'm at right now with this is, I just think there are valid reasons to doubt the official story. It's more than a tin-foil hat thing; The reason people mock this is that no one wants to believe our own govt. would ever do such a thing. But considering how many other lies we've been told about iraq and the WOT, is lying about 9/11 really so crazy? I don't think it is.

Art Eatman
January 14, 2006, 11:51 PM
"Whenever a contentious issue is discussed, one where sensibilities may be offended, threads are "locked"?"

First, go back and read the rules, and please understand that the primary purpose of this website is "to promote RKBA".

Some subjects are forbidden because experience since 1998 shows that they invariably--repeat, invariably--lead to high emotion and ensuing flame wars.

Some threads are locked because the subject is not "on topic" for the website.

This one ran as long as it has because I took BossLady out to dinner with friends and wasn't around at diaper-changing time. But now I am, so:

Nighty-bye.

Art

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