64 Winchester Model 70


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CB900F
January 15, 2006, 01:19 PM
Fella's;

A question that's always bothered me! I'm relying upon the combined wisdom the board to lay to rest the question that's kept me up nights for decades.

OK, we have pre-64 Winchester model 70's. That's from production beginning in 1937 through 1963. Then we have post-64 Winchester model 70's. Which, being post, would mean 1965 to date.

What happened to the 1964 model 70 Winchesters!!?? I'm almost pretty sure that there have to be some out there. Were they re-named Olins that year? Did commie sabateours from Remington make off with every last one of 'em? Please help solve the mystery of the "lost year Winchesters"

:D :evil: :what: 900F

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The Real Hawkeye
January 15, 2006, 02:41 PM
Fella's;

A question that's always bothered me! I'm relying upon the combined wisdom the board to lay to rest the question that's kept me up nights for decades.

OK, we have pre-64 Winchester model 70's. That's from production beginning in 1937 through 1963. Then we have post-64 Winchester model 70's. Which, being post, would mean 1965 to date.

What happened to the 1964 model 70 Winchesters!!?? I'm almost pretty sure that there have to be some out there. Were they re-named Olins that year? Did commie sabateours from Remington make off with every last one or 'em? Please help solve the mystery of the "lost year Winchesters"

:D :evil: :what: 900FPost 64s were manufactured any time after 12:00 AM January 1st, 1964.

CB900F
January 15, 2006, 03:31 PM
Hawkeye, Hawkeye, hawkeye;

Then they'd be properly referred to as post 63 Winchester model 70's. I think your trying to revise history here & change the fate of nations. And look what happened to the USSR when the commies tried to do the same thing. You're a brave, but misguided man Hawkeye.

:p 900F

Jim Watson
January 15, 2006, 03:48 PM
It is perfectly obvious, there were no Winchesters made in 1964 at all.
Pre '64 guns were made until the end of 1963, post '64 firearms were made starting in 1965, it took the factory all year in 1964 to change over to the new designs, what with setting up new and modified machine tools and training employees to run them.

[Actually, Frank deHaas says the changeover was made in "early 1964" and is signified by a sudden jump from serial number 581471 to 700000. Blue Book shows over 40,000 made by the end of 1964. DeHaas did not refer to "post '64 Winchesters, but to "New Model Winchesters" as distinct from "pre '64" guns. Just another example of the decline of the language. Looks like another Pet Peeve in the works.]

Marty B
January 15, 2006, 04:11 PM
Actually, according to Roger Rule they made 57,181 model 70's in 1964.

The Real Hawkeye
January 15, 2006, 05:13 PM
I've always interpreted the term "post '64" to mean "after the inception of 1964," which occurred at midnight AM on January 1st, 1964. Of course this is not precisely when the changes were made, but it serves a purpose to think in those terms. This way you are sure not to get a Model 70, heaven forbid, that is not pre-64.

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