[Correia]

which would you pick?

Currently we can get legal versions of ARs, FALs, CETMEs, M1as, AKs and a few others. Now we have the AR-180b, the M96, and the Bushy bullpup.

But there are lots of groovy black rifles out there in the rest of the world.

Which one of these would you like to see available for mass consumption? Imagine that it was produced here, and was available for around the price of a nice AR.

[Soap]

G36 series or the 550 series.

[Schuey2002]

H&K G36(K model) !!!!

[Marko Kloos]

I'd love to see a G36 or SIG550. All the other ones are cool as well, but those two are ubercool.

[Chris Rhines]

Ditto, G36 or Sig550.

- Chris

[762x51]

SG550 series.

D R O O L.

[Braz]

550 seems to be top o' the line,

That would be fun to own, wouldn't it?

[Justin]

Sig 550 or the IMI Tavor.
There are only really two bullpup options available in the US: The Steyr AUG, which runs four figures, and the Bushmaster M17, which while cute has a number of problems.

I think that a bullpup that cost about as much as an AR-15 and took the same magazines would offer a lot of versatility.

[FAL_Freak]

550! Rumor has it that they are coming. Coming in at the tune of $4K. I don't want one that bad though.

[Mr. Purple]

SIG 550 or G36. If and its a big if, they could be had for the price of an AR 15. If they cost more than an AR, they are nothing but useless Eurotrash as far as I'm concerned. I think alot of others feel the same as not too many SIGs were sold when they could come here because of their outrageous price.

The reality is that one is little more than a pretty AK with above average accuracy, and the other is an AR 18 derivitive in starwars clothing.

[4v50 Gary]

AN94. Unique in operation.

[BHP9]

AS a collector I would like to see all of them built and sold in sem-auto configuration. I have used full auto weapons and I still prefer the semi-auto.

When you get down to the serious buisness of hitting what you are aiming at the full auto is good only for point blank shooting providing you also have an unlimited supply of ammo handy, not something that is available all the time in combat.

[MLC]

But since the rifle would undoubtably be in semi auto only I voted for the Sig 550. The AN 94's burst setting is its selling point, without that and sans the muzzle break/high frequency whistle that the ATF would surely call a flash hider the AN loses much of its cool.

[Destructo6]

Must I pick only one? G36 and SIG 55x are really high on the list.

[Blain]

You think any of these rifles are better/beat the M16? If so, why?

[Soap]

No votes for the Civil Servant!?

[scdavis0]

Yeah seriously... WHERE'S MY SA 80?????

[M1911]

Yeah seriously... WHERE'S MY SA 80?????There are bits of it here...and there. Just keep wandering around southern Iraq -- enough parts have probably fallen off various rifles that if you collect enough of them, you'll be able to put together your very own SA 80.

[Handy]

Blain, the Sig 550 seems to be a .5 MOA rifle that has the bolt system of an AK. That may well be an improvement over the M16.



After having voted for the 550, I feel like I should have voted for the oddball FAMAS. A bullpup, non-HK delayed blowback .223! Neat-o. It even has real sights, instead of a dot sight.

[Skunkabilly]

G36C(ute)

[Frohickey]

FN Minimi http://remtek.com/arms/fn/minimi/minimi.gif

not this one.http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/0591-sou/troyer_v.ern

[Correia]

Blain, that is a whole 'nother can of worms. :)

There are some of us here who love ARs, some hate ARs, and everything in between. You may want to do a search here on and on the archives of TFL for HOURS of good reading.

[MLC]

Correia what was your pick? Or did I just ADD out and miss it?
4v50 Gary, you should check out the AEK 971. It is apparently more stable in full auto that the AN 94. Also available in 7.62x39.AEK 971 info (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as34-e.htm)

[10-Ring]

I'd get a G36 :D :cool:

[cratz2]

Pardon my ingorance, but what exactly is it about the 550 that has everyone so captivated?

I'd play with a Steyr AUG for the right price. I could sell a boatload of 'em to the kids I used to work with that play CounterStrike.

In all honesty, I'd be happy with a select fire Mini AK. Cheap ammo, reliable, convinient. Or an MP5SD. You could shoot anytime. Of those listed, the the FN FNC or the G36.

These kinds of rifles just don't really blow my hair back that much. Now a beautifully blued Mauser in an oddball cartridge like the 17 Remington with a hand oiled custom stock... that's what I'm talkin' about. :p

[Correia]

Personally I'm torn between the FN2000 and and the AN94. Wouldn't mind having all of them though. :)

[MAKOwner]

Even if we could have the G36 or Sig they would be pretty damn expensive. They would be cool but I doubt I'd ever buy one...

I voted for the FNC, I figure it has a chance of being semi-affordable, who knows...

[ReadyontheRight]

Instead of a black rifle -- how about a devilish RED Sturmgewehr 90 PE?

http://www.waffenzimmermann.ch/sites/sig/stgw90/image008.gif

[Arkady]

I'm going to have to go with either the HK G36 or the SIG 550.

I think i'd give the edge to the 550.

[SodaPop]

G36

[MLC]

This one I believe is still available in Canada.
http://www.nfa.ca/Images/Firearms/BlueStar-lhs.jpg

[parabellum9x19]

G36C is the ultimate IMHO. I believe gun nuts would still buy them if they were twice the price of an AR15.





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[FAL_Freak]

Yes, I find it unforunate that even The People's Republic of Canada lets their citizen's own a civilian version of the 550. Why we in the land of the free have such messed up import laws is beyond me. I'm all for letting the overseas folks being allowed a level playing field (or at least a more level playing field), but I doubt I'll live to see that day. Till then I can look at pictures and pray that Sig opens up a US plant I guess. :(

[Gewehr98]

I wanna Galil ARM. In .308. Oh, yeah, with a bunch of those unobtanium magazines, too. Should look like this:

http://remtek.com/arms/imi/galil/762/arm/762arm.gif

[Longbow]

FN FNC or H&K G36C! :)

[another48hrs]

I voted for the FN2000. It reminds me of a Vietnamese pot bellied pig. Until they can stick a magazine up a Vietnamese pot bellied pig and have it shoot .223 out of the snout I guess the FN2000 will do.

[TheLastBoyScout]

Since no one told me the mag ban had been lifted, I'll go with the FAMAS. It can be adjusted for southpaws, unlike the SA80, and a version of it takes AR magazines, unlike the AUG or G36.

[Schuey2002]

and a version of it takes AR magazines, unlike the AUG or G36.
HUH?? :confused: Since when?
Here is proof that the H&K G36 does indeed take AR mags..;)
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/area51/G36CARMAG.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/area51/100_FUJI-66%20002.jpg

[cool45auto]

Sig 550 please.

[jimbo]

Actually the 552 Commando, so Sig 550 was the closest vote.

[Jack19]

Can be yours today for only $8995 :D NEW in box.

http://www.fjvollmer.com/vollmer1/7/MVC-001S.JPG

Vollmer (http://www.fjvollmer.com/assault.htm)

[M67]

Sorry about the very poor picture quality, but this is from a trip to the range a few weeks ago... :D

BTW, that little Sig is surprisingly easy to shoot accurately at 300 meters, despite the 14 inch barrel... and it looks even cuter with its suppressor attached.

No it's not mine, it belongs to a shooting buddy. But it's nice to know that I can get one if I really want to, "unobtainium magazines" included.

You'll have to excuse me, but it's not that often I can do this, so I would like to take the opportunity to say :neener: :D

[Gomez]

I think I'd like a SAR-21. It's not on the list, I know, but it's a pretty sweet "black rifle".

Here's Charlie Cutshaw's review from Jane's.:

http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/news/idr/idr000531_2_n.shtml

[Litlman]

My buddy picked up a Galil a while back . 308, folding stock with 6 or 8 mags for about $1300. Pretty cool to shoot!!!! What $ do the mags go for now?

[Schuey2002]

What $ do the mags go for now?
New Israeli manufactured 25 rd. steel mags run about $90.00, while new (preban IMI) 12 rounders can be had for around $30.00 a piece. ;)

[Kobun]

Jack19, $8995 for a new SG 550??? :uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh:
I sell them for $2600...

Just don't ask what we pay for gas over here... :rolleyes:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=43854

[jimbo]

M67,

I'm just G-R-R-R-R-R-E-E-N with envy!:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

Glad you enjoyed it!:)

[Sylvilagus Aquaticus]

Any SiG 55x is fine by me. A very close second would be the FN FNC. Hindsight being a wonderful thing, I should have traded into the NIB one I saw a long, long time ago when they first came over and were (relative to today) cheap.

decisions, decisons.

Oh, and I see how it is. You Vikings get all the cool toys. <G> Greets, Norge.

Regards,

Rabbit.

It is quite normal for the same persons to be found bearing arms and tilling the soil. - Aristotle, Politics, Bk.IV, c.334-23 B.C.

[Tribial_Tiger]

Hey all,

I want a Vulcan Armerment V-73 ( Galil copy ) :what:

but i'm not sure if I want 308 or 7.62x39 ( uses ak mags)
this is the blip from thier site:

The Vulcan Arms V73 Series rifles are recreations of the famous Israeli Galil rifles. The V73 feature 100% parts interchangeabililty with the originals, and accept all original accessories and magazines. The receivers are made in the USA from a single block of tool steel.

We offer these rifles in four configurations (100 AR, 110 ARM, 120 Sniper, and 130 Micro) and 3 calibers: 5.56 (.223), 7.62x51(.308), and 7.62x39. The 7.62x39 caliber rifles accept standard AK magazines. All rifles feature folding stocks and flash suppressors. (Scope and Mount are sold separately)

Each V73 comes with muzzle brake/flash hider, sling, manual, hard case, cleaning kit, oiler, gun lock, and Vulcan logo knife - a $255 value!

or Red Stick Arms sells a Galil too, pluss im sure they would convert for Fal or Ak mags

Tiger

[Deer Hunter]

FN FNC. Any day of the week.

[RevolvingCylinder]

Where's the "none of the above" choice?

[jfernett119]

G36 or 550. I voted H&K.

[taliv]

G36, hands down

[plexreticle]

I want a 550 but not a US made one.

[grimjaw]

BAH, didn't see how old the poll was before I voted. I'd still go FAMAS though, just because I think it's eeeeeeeeevil.

jm

[cheygriz]

Uhhhhh..... The FN 2000 semiauto is already produced here. Your dealer can order it now.

[TexasRifleman]

FNC for me. I mean, who doesn't want the gun from HEAT?

[SoCalShooter]

I want an IMI TAVOR.

[Skofnung]

I'll go with the Sig 550, by reputation only. I've not handled or fired any of the above choices.

My AR will just have to do for now.

[MatthewVanitas]

Huh, since this thread was started, four years ago, 4 out of 10 of those rifles are available (or about to be released) in the U.S.

A couple folks are re-working the Steyr, Galil special-production runs come out every so often, and the FN2000 and Sig556 are shipping "any day now".

Wonder what the scene will be like four years from now when this thread is again dragged from the grave.

-MV

[roscoe]

We'll be able to get AN-94s with the switch, for sure.

[mmissile]

Owning preban SIGs, and having owned/or shot most of the others.....I'll say the FNC is probably the best rifle. It doesn't have that "mystique" of the 550 series rifles.....but will shoot as well, or better than the SIGs. I'd love to see a domestic quality made FNC.:D

[The Grand Inquisitor]

LOL....exactly who was so bored that they went trolling for threads they posted on IN 2003?

[trbon8r]

Beretta AR-70.

There is already a U.S. receiver made for the AR-70, and Numrich has parts kits. The problem is by the time you get a parts kit, buy the required U.S. parts and build one up including the cost of gunsmithing you are looking at around $1800. :barf: Too much for a clone when an original goes for a little over 2k.

If someone could build a quality copy of one of these rifles for around a thousand bucks I would be in.

[Correia]

Wow, zombie thread. I was scrolling through rifles, saw my name, and said, gee whiz, I don't remember starting a poll...

[buzz_knox]

Correia

Would this zombie thread be a good place to request a status update on your book? ;)

[Correia]

Buzz, I put a long update in the current Nightcrawler thread. Basically it was ready to be self published, (after over a year of rejection) when I was contacted by a big publishing house. It's gone up the chain there, and is sitting on the bosses desk. So now I'm waiting. If I'm rejected, then it will take about two months for the book to be available. If I'm picked up, then it goes on their schedule, but it would be available at pretty much every bookstore in the country. So back to waiting.

[cheygriz]

Uhhhh.... How about a re-release of the SIG AMT????? Now that would be something!:evil:

[Diesel man]

You can always borrow a G36 from a "special cop" or from a police station and you return it once your done playing with it you can keep it up to a month.Galils are hard to get but if you go to Israel you can ask one of the friendly Isralean police officers they will let you borrow the galil for a few days.You got to ask nicely and you cant have a bad criminal record. :)