Choate Ultimate Varmint Stock question
G29 Man
April 9, 2003, 03:09 PM
Can anyone tell me if you need an adapter to use the harris bipod on this stock? Also, does anyone have any opinions on the quality of this stock? I am trying to decide on which stock and am looking at this stock for a savage 10FP as the original stock is flimsy. Thanks! :)
Brian
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Onslaught
April 9, 2003, 04:30 PM
I tried to suggest these last time this topic was discussed at length, but the site was always down..
The TechniCarbon Dynamics stocks from Kurts Kustom Firearms (http://www.kurtskustomfirearms.citymax.com/catalog/item/29585/1133.htm) looks mighty sweet. If I were buying a replacement stock for my Savage, these would get first consideration. (But they're almost 2x the price... :( $299)
http://www.kurtskustomfirearms.citymax.com/i/section_10270/Mvc-010s.preview.jpg
http://www.kurtskustomfirearms.citymax.com/i/section_10746/TroyTEKMS.jpg
Quack
April 9, 2003, 05:33 PM
the Choate comes with an adapter, but i got a Harris #6 adapter yesterday. the Choate adapter holds the bipod off of the forend, and is quite long, it also wasn't too stable. i then removed one of the sling swivels from the 10FP stock and used it on the forend, but it needs spacers. the #6 is small and shorter so the bipod will contact the forend.http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=169425
G29 Man
April 9, 2003, 06:36 PM
Quack,
What scope is that on your rifle? In the picture are you using the harris adapter? Does the stock seem a lot more rigid?
Quack
April 9, 2003, 07:25 PM
the scope was a Simmons 4-16x40AO, Leupold base and med rings. i now have a 6-24x42 Sightron on it. that's a old pic with the Choate bipod adapter. the Choate stock is alot stiffer than the factory stock.
Check this link for more info on the stock (http://www.snipershide.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=17&t=000200)
G29 Man
April 9, 2003, 09:31 PM
Did you torque yours down to 65 inch pounds? The choate website says 50 inch pounds. What do you think?
Quack
April 9, 2003, 09:47 PM
actually still messing with it, so haven't broke out the torque wrench yet :) and still have to remove the old swivel so that i put in.
G29 Man
April 10, 2003, 12:15 AM
Did you have to drill the rail hole out for the old sling stud to fit? When you say it needs spacers do you mean the washer or are you referring to spacers between the pod and stock forend? Do you think it is just best to get the #6 adapter?
Thanks!
Quack
April 10, 2003, 07:05 AM
no drilling, just removed one of the bolts holding the rail in. it looks like if you remove the 3 bolts holding the rail in, you may not need a spacer for the new sling swivel. haven't put the Harris #6 on yet, but think it would be the best so that you could place the bipod where you want it on the rail.
will take some pics tonight for you.
yzguy
April 10, 2003, 02:07 PM
Just throwing out another option....
I love my Choate Ultimate Sniper stock, it is only a little more...
http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/GunStuff/savage/dcp03439.gif (http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/GunStuff/savage/dcp03439.jpg)
(click to enlarge)
Nero Steptoe
April 10, 2003, 05:06 PM
"Did you torque yours down to 65 inch pounds? The choate website says 50 inch pounds. What do you think?"
Just curious as to why you'd torque the Choate stock to the H-S Precision specs??
Prof
April 10, 2003, 05:36 PM
Quack and yzguy: Where did you buy your stocks? Can't find many retail places that carry them. Thanks!
Nero Steptoe
April 10, 2003, 05:44 PM
Brownell's carries both the Ultimate Varmint and the Ultimate Sniper for the same price...$135. I believe you'll find the Ultimate Varmint to be far superior to the Ultimate Sniper. (Check out the foreend angles)
Prof
April 10, 2003, 05:48 PM
Thanks, Nero. One question: when I looked them up, both stocks were selling at Brownell's for $176.00. :confused:
Nero Steptoe
April 10, 2003, 09:24 PM
Prof: You have to establlish a "trade discount" account with Brownell's in order to get the $135 price. You don't have to have an FFL, and you dont' have to submit any business licenses, etc. What you have to do is answer "yes" to the online question reqarding being in a business that doesn't require an FFL.
Those stocks were $106 until fairly recently.
Prof
April 11, 2003, 12:13 AM
Thanks again, Nero!
yzguy
April 11, 2003, 10:05 AM
I believe you'll find the Ultimate Varmint to be far superior to the Ultimate Sniper. (Check out the foreend angles)
why would you say that? what is wrong with the foreend angle?? the very front of it is angled on purpose and has a rail that slides on it that you can attach a bipod to and make small adjustments in height by moving the rail. the part where you would grip it on the fore end is flat not angled....
just wondering why you would say that, I am happy with mine :)
now if you were planning on varmit hunting, or any hunting for that matter, or even wanted to stand up and shoot it, I could see the varmit one being a better choice (even if it is just because it is lighter). I don't though....
Prof: You have to establish a "trade discount" account with Brownell's in order to get the $135 price. You don't have to have an FFL, and you dont' have to submit any business licenses, etc. What you have to do is answer "yes" to the online question reqarding being in a business that doesn't require an FFL.
sure now you tell me..... (yes apparently I paid to much, I think I found it for $150-160)
Nero Steptoe
April 11, 2003, 02:05 PM
I prefer the wide foreend of the Varmint model. All I'd be doing would be varmint hunting or target shooting. I really don't see too many real "snipers" around these parts. ;)
I'd much prefer the H-S Precision stocks for the shooting that I do, but they're a little more expensive than the Choate stocks.
G29 Man
April 11, 2003, 08:01 PM
I went with the ultimate varmint rifle stock. Here is a pic. I also got the harris #6 adapter (not shown) which makes a huge difference on the stability.
http://www.fatkatsartistry.com/savage.jpg
Thanks for all the help!
R.H. Lee
December 29, 2005, 05:58 PM
What's the difference between the Ultimate Varmint and the Ultimate Sniper? They look the same except for color.
Falconeer
March 22, 2006, 09:32 AM
What's the difference between the Ultimate Varmint and the Ultimate Sniper? They look the same except for color.
I second this. I haven't even taken my new rifle out yet and I'm already looking at stocks. :p Not that I'm going to buy soon, but I enjoy investigating. :)
GunnySkox
March 22, 2006, 09:37 AM
http://www.riflestock.com/images/Products/VARMINT_STOCK.jpg
Choate Ultimate Varmint Stock
http://www.riflestock.com/images/Products/SNIPER.jpg
Choate Ultimate Sniper Stock
~GnSx
Falconeer
March 22, 2006, 09:53 AM
What's the additional hardware on the front of the sniper version? Is there some kind of adjustment?
bgold
March 22, 2006, 10:09 AM
May check out Sharp Shooter Supply, as they specialize in Savages. They have some great stocks, although a bit more expensive than most Choates. Their varmint stocks are awesome, and I plan on purchasing another Super VarTac stock for my 12FV soon. However, SSS's stocks are of a more traditional styling than the Choates.
The only other stock I would go with for this type of stock would be HS Precision or McMillian, although I have had good luck with B&C stocks for hunting rifles.
USSR
March 22, 2006, 11:28 AM
Falconeer,
Save up and get a real stock. The Choates are clunky and weigh a ton. Agree with bgold: McMillan or something offered by Sharp Shooter Supply.
Don
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