need help with h-110


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trickyasafox
January 15, 2006, 07:44 PM
i got a great deal on a lb of h110, but hodgdons changed their website. i know its good for 357, but can it be downloaded for 38sp (+ would be fine) 45acp or 9mm? those are the only caliber pistols i own, and if i only use it on 357 it'll last me neigh on a decade.

also i dont reload shotgun, though its a good powder for that i hear.

i also reload 223, 22-250, and 270, though i wouldnt even want to think about a pistol/shotgun powder in a rifle.


so can i use this for any of the other pistol calibers i load for?

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Jim Watson
January 15, 2006, 07:50 PM
http://www.hodgdon.com/

It won't go stale in 10 years. Because it is of little use in any of the calibres you list other than .357 Magnum. It is kind of finicky and is only useful in magnum revolvers, a few small rifle cartridges, and .410 shotgun.

trickyasafox
January 15, 2006, 07:57 PM
i thought you used to be able to go there and click ona powder and then it would list all the calibers it was acceptable for. oh well at least it was a deal. anyone else wanna take a stab at it?

rbernie
January 15, 2006, 08:14 PM
You're kinda stuck. As Jim pointed out, H110 a magnum powder and really only becomes consistant when used in large quantities and under relatively high pressures. I've used it for 357Mag, 44Mag, and 454Casull. You'll NOT find joy in trying to use it for 38sp or 9mm or 45ACP - they have neither the case capacity nor the pressure to make H110 work.

screwman
January 15, 2006, 08:56 PM
You're kinda stuck. As Jim pointed out, H110 a magnum powder and really only becomes consistant when used in large quantities and under relatively high pressures. I've used it for 357Mag, 44Mag, and 454Casull. You'll NOT find joy in trying to use it for 38sp or 9mm or 45ACP - they have neither the case capacity nor the pressure to make H110 work.
+ 1 on that. The specs on H110 say it's for heavy manum loads. I tried to load some 357's down and the result was total filth to my gun.


Mike

redneck2
January 15, 2006, 09:16 PM
H-110 is made to use full-bore. It's hard to light off and needs to be used close to max. You'll need a faster powder for smaller/lighter bullets. Reduced loads give very erratic performance

when I first started back in reloading, I had some "Ruger Only" loads for my Bisley, and reduced them 10% like a good boy. Problem is that the manual says it should only be reduced a max of 3%. Also should use mag primers or at least Winchesters

YellowLab
January 15, 2006, 09:52 PM
I just did 500 .30 carbine rounds... 14 grains H110 under 110gn FMJRN Paid $17 for a pound at a recent gun show.

Modern Reloading lists very few .30 Carbine powders, and H110 was at the top for pressure and velocity with 110gr.

caz223
January 15, 2006, 10:12 PM
H110 is not good for 9mm and would be HORRIBLE for .45 acp.
It also wouldn't work at all for .38 spl.

But let's say you load 158 grain bullets for your .357, a good guess of the powder needed would be around 16 grains, more for lighter bullets.
Let's see, 7000/16= 437.5
In other words, if you bought a pound of H110, it will only last for eight 50 round boxes, and you're almost out.
And that's assuming it's a 158 grain bullet, and not a maximum load.
I'd be out in an hour on my 550.

If you can make that last ten years, well, then maybe you need a new hobby.

trickyasafox
January 15, 2006, 11:08 PM
lol or i need more time with full bore 357 mags!

Kurac
January 15, 2006, 11:26 PM
H110 works so good in the .30 Carbine because that is what it was originally made for.

Mal H
January 16, 2006, 01:38 AM
... and hence the name H110. Bruce Hodgdon liked to make the name of his powders mean something. H110 is a good example as is H380. Since his favorite 22-250 load was 38.0 grains of his powder he decided to call it H380. I guess you could consider them mnemonics.

anonanon
January 16, 2006, 12:54 PM
H110 is no good at all for 9mm and for .45ACP in a semi-auto.
But I have to disagree with most of the posters on .38 +P loads.
I've used it in some .38 +P cases (but fired in a .357) and found it accurate. I forget the loads -- I mean, when all is said and done, H110 is better in a .357 magnum case, and I have enough of those not to need to scrounge.
An old Speer manual to hand lists H110 at 10.8gr max +P and 9.6 starting for the 158gr JSP/JHP, for 934 f/s and 874 f/s respectively. Newer Speer books have cut back on max load data, so I'd be sure to start with the low end.
For 140gr JHP Speer gives 11.5gr maxs and 10gr low, for velocities of 971/896 f/s.
For 125gr JHP or JSP, Speer lists 11.9/10.5 gr, for 1020/892 f/s
There's even a load for 110gr, at 12.7/10.8gr, 1146/1013 f/s
Be sure to use magnum primers with H110.
H110 is a good powder for not leading. Since these velocities are below the stage where leading is a problem, it will work well with good cast bullets, although no loading info is available,
H110 is one of the two powders Hodgdons lists for .410 Shotgun, where pressures are only around 10,000 - 13000 psi, so it will function well at lower pressures.

HSMITH
January 16, 2006, 10:01 PM
The difference in a 410 is the primer, shotshell primers are several orders of magnitude hotter than metallic cartridge primers. That is why it works OK at low pressure in a shotshell.

shu
January 17, 2006, 02:32 AM
tricky -

you need to get yrself a 357mag lever gun and have some fun with that H110.

-shu

ninja45
January 18, 2006, 09:19 PM
Hodgdon H110 is the same powder as Winchester W296, SAME powder. Hence, you can use the Winchester site for loading data. They are slow powders and are best used to full max load.

For loading 9mm and 45 ACP, use faster powder to reliably cycle the slide (assuming you are going to use them in semiauto pistols). Squib rounds can result in your attempt to load slow powders when fast ones are called for.

You can also check out this site for more reloading info.

http://forums.handloads.com/

Be safe and God bless.

Carlos

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