New way to keep weapons in working order


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Drizzt
April 9, 2003, 05:17 PM
Knight Ridder Washington Bureau

April 9, 2003, Wednesday

SECTION: DOMESTIC NEWS

KR-ACC-NO: K4233

LENGTH: 338 words

HEADLINE: New way to keep weapons in working order

BYLINE: By Tim Potter

BODY:
FORT RILEY, Kan. _ As they head to war in Iraq, the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 13th Armor, carry along 1-ounce bottles of orange liquid that could save their lives.

They contain a synthetic lubricant that keeps pistols, rifles and machine guns working in the desert sand and dust, which can coat, clog and wear any mechanism.

The tank battalion, part of the 3rd Brigade, 1st Armored Division, kept hearing reports of weapons malfunctioning in desert training. The problem, said battalion commander Lt. Col. Frank Sherman, is that the oil-based lubricant the Army usually uses seems to attract dust and sand in desert conditions. Sherman credited Staff Sgt. Julian Tobin for taking the initiative to solve the problem for their battalion.

Tobin tried to downplay his involvement, saying he was only following up on officers' good ideas for finding a more suitable lubricant. He searched the Internet and found a product called Militec-1, advertised as a "synthetic-based metal conditioner." Some other units already in Iraq have started using it, he said.

Although the synthetic lubricant is moist when applied, it dries as it bonds with metal, which prevents it from drawing as much dust and sand as the oil-based lubricant. The change, Tobin said, could determine whether a bullet casing fully ejects or whether a round properly engages in a firing mechanism.

More than half the approximately 500 soldiers in Sherman's tank unit work in support of the tanks. Sometimes they operate relatively far from the tanks in supply and maintenance convoys. They are logistics experts, mechanics and clerks, working without armored plating to shield them. They can't always depend on the tanks' main guns for protection. Their lives, Sherman said, could depend on whether their M16s fire dependably.

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Carlos
April 9, 2003, 05:19 PM
Hmm, sounds great. I want some. If you have a link, please post it.

I'll do an internet search.

SquirrelNuts
April 9, 2003, 05:22 PM
They will send you a small sample for free.

-SquirrelNuts

Carlos
April 9, 2003, 05:27 PM
Yup, and here's the link:

http://www.militec1.com/new_militec.html

I'm sending off for a sample.

Thanks for the post.

Viking Warrior
April 9, 2003, 05:27 PM
Email them at www.militec-1.com
They are happy to send you out a small sample.

WonderNine
April 9, 2003, 05:42 PM
The M-16 family of rifles needs the gas system the AR-180 had.

Carlos
April 9, 2003, 05:44 PM
I just read their whole website and I can tell you they have a new customer right now.

Even more pleasing is the fact that the President seems to have a good set of balls and backs up his product wholeheartedly. Love people like that.

P95Carry
April 9, 2003, 05:52 PM
They sent me a sample some weeks ago ...... seems pretty good.

HerbG
April 9, 2003, 06:01 PM
This story is virtually identical to what happened during the Vietnam War when G.I,'s began ordering and using Dri-Slide as a weapons lubricant. Really created a controversy because the Army's lubricant was supposedly no good, etc, etc. I don't remember hearing much about Dri-Slide after that. Anybody else remember that?

Carlos Cabeza
April 9, 2003, 06:33 PM
IIRC, Mr. Brad Giordani is the El Presidente' and he will shoot you some right to your door within a coupla days. The stuff works great, no problemo.

joebogey
April 9, 2003, 06:50 PM
Not only can you use it for your firearms, but for your combustion engines and transmissions as well.
Gettin ready to place an order real soon.

Redlg155
April 9, 2003, 07:08 PM
The Frogs and Germans need not apply.


:D :D :D Too funny.

I sent off for a sample. I'm Thai..so I guess I'm ok. :D

Good Shooting
Red

4v50 Gary
April 9, 2003, 08:13 PM
Sherman's tank unit

Don't you just love that?

280PLUS
April 9, 2003, 08:33 PM
no complaints yet...

m

GoldenLoki
April 9, 2003, 11:07 PM
I've been using Militec-1 for a couple years now. VERY good stuff!

GL

..
April 9, 2003, 11:53 PM
this stuff is no different than anything else. when you apply it to firearms it's wet like any other and will attract dust, dirt, etc. as far as it attracting less, the company says it does.

10-Ring
April 10, 2003, 12:40 AM
I've been using the lube for a while. I sent away for som of that grease!

280PLUS
April 10, 2003, 06:38 AM
if youre an over oiler like me it will pick up some junk, i've learned to do a good wipe down and swab out when i'm finished cleaning and lubing. a little does go a long way.

m

PAshooter
April 10, 2003, 09:33 AM
OK, help me out here guys. I go to their site and all I get is a couple of pictures and a zilion little rectangular boxes - no text. It's the same kind of thing that happens when I go to a "foreign" web page that uses a font not supported by a machine set for U.S. English - but I've never seen this on any other domestic web page.

These guys are domestic, right?

I'm running I.E. 5.5, and as I said - this is the only U.S. site where I've seen such behavior. I'd love to read all about this stuff, maybe order a sample, and maybe start using it regularly... but I'm sort of frozen out at the moment.

Any computer experts out there?

hondo68
April 10, 2003, 09:58 AM
This article is totally devoid of any test data to indicate that Militec-1 is any better than camel wiz, or anything else.
:scrutiny:

Gabby Hayes
April 10, 2003, 10:05 AM
While I might be interested in using Militec-1 as a lubricant and metal conditioner, this guy didn't seem to have much luck with it as a rust preventative: http://communities.prodigy.net/sportsrec/gz-rust.html

Felonious Monk
April 10, 2003, 10:28 AM
If I were you, I would load IE 6.0 Service Pack 1.
Or try adding shockwave, flash player, and authorware from www.macromedia.com

JHill
April 10, 2003, 10:44 AM
I got my free sample last year and really like it--even after weeks of use the gun still has this sheen to it.

I would like to heat my barrel and frame and apply the stuff to see if it helps w/ lead fouling from reloads.

BTW, fp-10 will also send a free sample if you email them.

Others claim this to be just as good or better.

Safety First
April 10, 2003, 10:48 AM
Since there seems to be concern about Sigs rusting a little sooner than other guns, I am thinking about ordering a product to address that concern. I could use a little help in the area of what products to use for care of the gun, so I would appreciate any help from the those who have experience with various products. Thanks

PAshooter
April 10, 2003, 10:57 AM
Felonious:

Installed IE6 SP1 - no difference.

Already had Shockwave installed (wouldn't think it would have any effect on fonts, but...)

Still scratching my head.

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