[QuickDraw]

Sean Penn’s Downtown Lunch Marred by Car, Gun Theft

By NATE TABAK
Daily Cal Staff Writer
Wednesday, April 9, 2003

Actor Sean Penn's car was stolen as he lunched at a Downtown Berkeley restaurant yesterday afternoon, police said.

The car, a black 1987 Buick Grand National, was taken in broad daylight between 1 and 2:45 p.m. while it was parked on the 2300 block of Shattuck Avenue, said Berkeley police Officer Mary Kusmiss.

"It was quite bold," Kusmiss said.

Penn, 42, told police he had a loaded 9 mm Glock handgun inside his car in addition to an unloaded .38-caliber Smith & Wesson revolver in the trunk.

It was legal for Penn to have the guns in his car because he has a state concealed weapons permit, Kusmiss said.

An officer remembered seeing the car heading south on Shattuck from Derby Street about 2:35 p.m before Penn reported the theft, Kusmiss said.

Penn was eating lunch at Venus restaurant with his assistant when the theft occurred.

The actor was "very mellow" in the aftermath of the crime, Kusmiss said.

Penn declined to comment about the incident.

"I'm not talking. I'm just having a cigarette," Penn told The Daily Californian.

About 70 percent of cars stolen in Berkeley are eventually found.

Kusmiss said Penn's car may turn up sooner than others because it is a distinctive model that is "highly visible."

Penn, who lives in Marin County, is a three-time Academy Award nominee for Best Actor.

His car has a California license plate of 2GRS995.

Anybody with information about this case can contact the Berkeley Police Department at 981-5900

Now isn't that interesting!!:rolleyes:
You don't suppose he's one of those elite that has a coveted
California CCW?
QuickDraw

[twoblink]

at a Downtown Berkeley

But wait!! That's about as liberal of a place as it gets!! THERE'S NO CRIME in Berkeley!! :rolleyes:

Also, Sean Penn; I thought all of Hollyweird is against guns!! and a ccw at that!!

QUESTION:

What is the gun doing in the car and not on his persons if he has a ccw??

[Monkeyleg]

"What is the gun doing in the car and not on his persons if he has a ccw?"

It makes his nose look too small.

[rock jock]

This is the height of vile hypocrisy.:barf: :barf: :barf:

Where is Jim March to comment? I'll bet he will have field day with this one.

[pittspilot]

I cannot believe it.

And I bet he got it in the City of Los Angeles.

Time for a public Records request

[Zander]

I just don't understand what the problem is...isn't it apparent that Hollyweirders like Penn should not be subject to the "laws" governing his fellow subjects in the PRK? :rolleyes:

[c_yeager]

Hypocricy abounds. But, on a more positive note the Buick Grand National is a pretty cool ride.

[Jeff White]

Doesn't Sean Penn have a domestic violence conviction for banging up Madonna? I guess Lautenberg only applies to the great unwashed. :barf:

Jeff

[Greg L]

I think that his domestic violence rap was on the photographer that captured it for all eternity - Steve Dallas wasn't it. :D

Greg

[QuickDraw]

As the article said,he has a house in Marin,which is true.
A lot of the hollywood elite have houses here.
I'm not sure if its his primary residence.
In Marin county its almost,no it is,impossible to get a ccw.
I called the sherrifs dept. and asked,the woman that answered
laughed at me!I'm not kidding!
But oh wait,I'm not a hollywood liberal. :rolleyes:

QuickDraw

[Jim March]

"Field day" doesn't even begin :D.

Oh ya. I *live* for poop like this. I *swim* in it. Y'all have no IDEA.

See also:

http://www.amiannoying.com/(plhmh155qxmledvku002dk45)/view.aspx?ID=718

Damned if I know which agency did this. But trust me, I'll find out!

:evil:

[Jeff White]

Greg L,
Well unless he lived with the photographer, it wouldn't be domestic battery. But it sure should have been grounds to deny a CCW.

Jeff

[QKRTHNU]

Go Get'em Jim! :D

[Sergeant Bob]

I was listening to The Savage Nation last night and a guy called in and said he saw Sean Penn in Bullseye Guns buying a gun, yesterday I think. Maybe getting a replacement?

[0007]

And I'll bet his '87 ride - cool as it is - gets lousier gas mileage then my 2000 SUV... Oops, I forgot, he's not a "little people".

[TarpleyG]

As much as I am a fan of the Grand National, why in the hell is Sean Penn, worth millions, driving around in one??? If it were me, I could think of 50 other cars I'd rather drive.

GT

[Tamara]

It was legal for Penn to have the guns in his car because he has a state concealed weapons permit, Kusmiss said.

Quelle surprise. :rolleyes:

[foghornl]

You don't leave any gun in a parked car...or at least any gun you want to keep.


IDIOTA ! ! ! :cuss:


Don't ask me how I know this fact....suffice to say I learned it the hard way with some great measure of assistance by the then-wife.

[Greg L]

Jeff,

The refrence was from the Bloom County comic strip that was lampooning the Sean/Madonna brawls. :D Steve got beat up while Opus got out of the way. He wound up suing the camera company because obviously :rolleyes: they were responsible for him getting beat up (and they had the deepest pockets....)

Greg

[Daniel T]

Seah "Baghdad" Penn is a piece of crap. His hypocrisy does not suprise me.

He does have a nice car though.

[Russ]

Too bad Sean wasn't in the bunker they blew up a few days ago when they thought his hero Saddam was there.

[cratz2]

At least the car was a Grand National and not a GNX.

I think I'd cry if someone was driving my GNX around trashing it.

[Kevlarman]

Wow, a Hollywood actor driving a Grand National! With his kind of money he could be driving around something a bit more expensive!

[CZ-75]

At least the car was a Grand National and not a GNX.


What makes you think it wasn't?

1987 was the only year for GNX's, IIRC.

The media isn't known for their great facts-checking ("semi-automatic revolver" sound familiar? Doubt they were talking about Webley-Fosbury or Mateba, either).

So comrade Penn may have lost an irreplaceable $50K and climbing vehicle along with his two guns. No problem about the guns because I'm sure they had trigger locks.

:rolleyes: :barf:

[Standing Wolf]

Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites—and masters of hypocrisy.

[pittspilot]

I have done a tad of digging, and have found some interesting stuff.

Remember that Sean was known for getting into fights occasionally.

Well that is disqualifiying for a CCW under California law, with a statute of limitations of 10 years. Trouble is, Sean has been living in Marin before the 10 years had elapsed. It's not determinative, but it is interesting.

Check my blog for the full story (www.politicallomcevak.blogspot.com)

[PATH]

Excuse me whilst I don my barf bag!:barf:

[Jim March]

You know, I just remembered: I have a list of the small number of Marin County *Sheriff's* CCWs as of mid-2001. It's here:

http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/marin.pdf

He ain't in it. First, that list may be a pack of lies. Second, that doesn't cover the various towns. Third, he may be doing second-residency elsewhere, Culver City or whatever.

[Jim March]

MORE INFO:

http://www.marinij.com/Stories/0,1413,234%7E24407%7E1318694,00.html

Ross is a small town in Marin County, pop. around 2,100. That's where he scored CCW.

[Jeff White]

Jim,
What are the California laws on issuing CCW? It seems to me that Penn has a criminal record that would preclude him from qualifying.

Jeff

[RAY WOODROW 3RD]

Say it isn't so!

There CAN'T BE a double standard!

Tellus Jim tell us!:D

[rock jock]

The second article Jim cites tells us that Mr. Penn was considered eligible because his assualt convictions were more than 10 years old. I like the quote from the PD Public Safety officer in Ross:

"Not just anyone can get a permit to carry a concealed weapon. ... It's not a simple process and it does require some diligence on the part of the person seeking the permit."

IOW, you have to be someone worthy, someone special, someone who's name the chief can drop at dinner parties.

[Kharn]

It seems like Jim smells some blood in the water. Have at'em and good hunting. :cool:

Kharn

[pittspilot]

The hunt continues folks. It gets better and better.

[Beorn]

Are you a turtle? Y.B.Y.S.A.I.A!!!

I haven't seen a fellow Turtle in YEARS!!!

I didn't even know they were still around.

I lost my card a long time ago!

How very cool!

Quickdraw! How cool to see another turtle!

[twoblink]

My good buddy lives in Marin..

He says that basically it's neigh impossible to get a ccw there..

Plus a criminal record precludes ccw's, as you would fail a background check.

So..

Who's daughter is he sleeping with (or better yet, threatening to sleep with)?

PATH, pass the barf bag around.

Zander.. All creatures in the PRK are equal... some more equal than others..:barf:

[Airwolf]

Ross!?! Small town/BIG money. No wonder he got it.

I lived next door in San Anselmo for a year.

Pop. 2100 and the cops have full IR/NV turret type remote sensors on their cars when I was there. That tells you how much money there is for a town that small. That plus the PD and FD are local, not contract with the county. Think Bel-Air (but more exclusive) North. Locals used to tell me that if you are any other color than white you can look forward to being looked over *real* hard by the cops if passing through.

Shoo-in based on the where and "who" he is. :fire:

[Sergeant Bob]

Are you a turtle?
Y.B.Y.S.A.I.A.!
I, Sergeant Bob, will never let it be known that my a$$ is higher than my head.
Wow! You guys are old!;)

[Jim March]

Known so far: Penn bought a house in Ross for a bit over $2mil, in 1996.

His last misdemeanor conviction for ADW was '86, but in '97 he was popped on a parole violation for simple assault (plain ol' punch versus use of a rock in the previous). Numerous other allegations of violence but those are what are important, along with the date of CCW issuance (so far unknown, but bet your butt I'll find out).

If the '97 matter resulted in conviction, he'd have been barred five years past that. He was barred from firearms ownership 10 years after the '86 thing.

So when did he score?

Then there's the quotes:

"I hate journalists. Or better. I hate paparazzi. Yeah, I punched them out and I'll do it again if it's necessary. I think a fist in their face is the only way to protect my private life. I demand my freedom. And I must have it."
Source:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/6339/QUOTES.html

"Family makes me feel there's a reason I'm alive... I'm feeling my life, which I didn't always do partly because I'd be drunk a lot."
Source:
http://www.saidwhat.co.uk/quotes.php?name=Sean%20Penn&type=2

:rolleyes:

[Gary H]

This case might just cut both ways. It certainly looks like the law is not being applied equally, but Penn's situation might provide a case for stiffening CCW control...if that is possible in urban California.

So, he can carry in California, but not Baghdad. No wonder he didn't move to Baghdad.

[Jim March]

The important thing to emphasize here is that under the current "discretionary" system, if a high-profile lunatic like Penn screws up with his permit, it's an embarassment for the top cop who issued.

PLUS the "elite individual" in question has just gotten graphic proof that they're "above the law".

When you combine these, you get a horrific trend: wealthy nutcases screw up, and it gets covered over by that top cop and others, out of "professional courtesy". And knowing this, the "elite types" screw up more.

This isn't just theory. Of 20 "elite permits" issued in '99 by sheriff Baca, 2 were charged with felonies just inside the first year.

http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/lastory.pdf

Then there's James Colafrancesco :barf::

http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/colafrancescopapers.pdf

...and God only know how many more.

When permit issuance is handled on a sane and fair basis, then yes, it's possible some loonies like Penn could score (although in most shall-issue systems, Penn's history is montonously wacky enough to keep him from scoring if a sheriff or police chief wanted to block it). But they'd know that their freaky conduct would NOT embarass the top cop who issued, and the police would be free to come down on 'em like the wrath of Satan if they blew it.

[firestar]

Penn, 42, told police he had a loaded 9 mm Glock handgun inside his car

Figuires:rolleyes:

[QuarterBoreGunner]

re-quoting myself from calguns.net:

If you ever want to get extremely frustrated and pound your head against the monitor, just cruise over to the San Francisco Indy Media (http://www.indybay.org/) site and click the comments link on the left side, but a word of warning- be prepared for anarcho/crypto/socio/communist/anti-basically everything type of thinking.

In spite of all that I browse the site every week or so just to see what the fuzzies are thinking. And right now, they’re very confused about what to think about Mr. Penn’s antics. They idolize him as a ‘true hero in the fight against American Imperialism’ for going to Iraq, yet are unclear as to why ‘any sane person needs a killing machine’ like a Glock for.

Heh. Irony tastes good.

[Hal]

RE: Sean Penn
Quote overheard from Dennis Miller.

"Sean Penn. Dead career walking"

gotta luv it, even considering the source

[Ohen Cepel]

Well the maggot got his car back. And, yes. I do think that maggot is a correct term for him. He is a parasite (like most of Hollywood). The suck their living off of society having done little if anything for anyone but themselves.

Of course. The guns are gone.

Wonder if he would support someone for suing him when the dirtbags use them in a crime?

The liberal left amazes me more all the time!

[Jim March]

More info and commentary on Clayton Cramer's blog:

http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/2003_04_13_archive.html#92538092

And we have another thread just started here on THR (SIGH!!!):

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18509

[sm]

Seems we have another related thread, Sorry Jim March.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?threadid=19996