Driver stops gun threat - with his truck!


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Preacherman
January 19, 2006, 12:00 PM
From Pittsburgh Live (http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/s_414899.html):

Trucker: Forced gun-wielding driver into barrier

By Rob Amen

TRIBUNE-REVIEW

Thursday, January 19, 2006


http://pittsburghlive.com/photos/2006-01-18/0119trucker-b.jpg


Three hours later, Danny Termin still was shaken, the vision of a man pulling beside him and pointing a gun difficult to forget.

Termin, 50, of Bellwood, Blair County, was driving a truck south on McKnight Road near Nelson Road in Ross on Wednesday afternoon when Raymond Silak, 26, of Richland, pointed the loaded weapon at him, police said.

Termin responded by turning his car carrier into Silak's pickup truck and smashing it against a concrete median, pinning Silak inside.

Termin then fled his rig, running downhill on McKnight Road. He called 911 and waited for police.

Termin said he was driving in the right lane when he came upon a backhoe traveling about 10 mph. He turned into the left lane in front of a pickup truck, passed the backhoe and returned to the right lane, he said.

The next thing he knew, a man in the pickup pulled beside him and made an obscene gesture, he said.

"He pulled up next to my cab and gave me the finger -- which happens -- so I smiled and waved at him," Termin said.

According to police, Silak then pulled his gun.

"He was there, and racks (a bullet) into the chamber," Termin said. "I decided, 'No, if we're going to have an altercation, the only thing I have to fight with is this truck, and here it is.'

"That's when I rammed him into the Jersey barrier. I think it was just more a reaction. There wasn't time to think."

Neither driver was hurt.

Police charged Silak with recklessly endangering another person, simple assault and terroristic threats.

"Luckily, no shots were fired," Ross Detective William Barrett said. "Was (Silak) going to shoot him or make threatening gestures? The truck driver was not taking any chances."

Termin was not charged. But he said it will take some time before he forgets what happened.

"I pulled a muscle running down that hill," he said, managing a laugh, as he drove home. "I haven't run that fast since I was in high school football. My kids are going to jive me all night."

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Biker
January 19, 2006, 12:03 PM
Good for him. Quick thinking, indeed. Wonder if I could pull that off on my scoot?:uhoh:
Biker

Stiletto Null
January 19, 2006, 12:04 PM
pwnt by a truck. Nice. :D

Dollar An Hour
January 19, 2006, 12:10 PM
Probably not the first time the punk has brandished, either. :banghead:

Radagast
January 19, 2006, 12:12 PM
It's likely to be his last time though.

Good move on the part of the truck driver.

1911 guy
January 19, 2006, 12:39 PM
If this idiot was hot headed enough to threaten someone with a pistol, how is the driver to know he's not hot headed enough to use it? Good for the truck driver, I'm a little sorry the brandisher got away unscathed. Gene pool could use a little chlorine.

Hypnogator
January 19, 2006, 12:42 PM
Hmmm...

Wonder what the muzzle energy of an 18-Wheeler is? :what: :eek: :D

GunnySkox
January 19, 2006, 01:11 PM
Hmmm...

Wonder what the muzzle energy of an 18-Wheeler is? :what: :eek: :D

I, for one, hope I never have to fire a 12-cylinder diesel in anger.

:D

~GnSx

Flatfender
January 19, 2006, 01:21 PM
I, for one, hope I never have to fire a 12-cylinder diesel in anger.

:D

~GnSx

...That old diesel engine made an eerie sound
When Papa fired it up and headed into town

Well, the picture in the paper showed the scene real well
Papa's rig was buried in the local motel
The desk clerk said he saw it all real clear
He never hit the brakes and he was shifting gears :D

Mama was a looker
Lord, how she shined
Papa was a good'n
But the jealous kind
Papa loved Mama
Mama loved men
Mama's in the graveyard
Papa's in the pen

"Papa Loved Mama" by Garth Brooks

mzmtg
January 19, 2006, 01:38 PM
Hmmm...

Wonder what the muzzle energy of an 18-Wheeler is? :what: :eek: :D

Assuming an 85,000 pound truck, travelling 65mph...

Approx. 1.2 million foot-pounds of energy.

Who said stopping power was a myth?

zahc
January 19, 2006, 01:40 PM
Simple assault? Why not assault with a deadly weapon?

fish2xs
January 19, 2006, 02:06 PM
never bring a gun to a truck fight!

pax
January 19, 2006, 02:33 PM
Brilliant.

pax

hso
January 19, 2006, 02:36 PM
Any indication of whether the PU Driver had a carry permit? If not then why isn't he getting a weapons charge as well?

det.pat
January 19, 2006, 02:45 PM
cause this is pa and we are a civilized state, course it's allegheny county and half of the sheriff's dept is in, or going to jail.
pat

Thefabulousfink
January 19, 2006, 02:52 PM
Whats with the "terroristic threats" charge was the driver shouting about how "the streets will run red with the blood of the infidels"?

I think people are a little to quick to brand terrorist on what was just an hot headed A-hole.

IMHO

41 Redhawk
January 19, 2006, 03:16 PM
cause this is pa and we are a civilized state, course it's allegheny county and half of the sheriff's dept is in, or going to jail.
pat
But Pete's innocent! :rolleyes:

GunnySkox
January 19, 2006, 03:42 PM
Whats with the "terroristic threats" charge was the driver shouting about how "the streets will run red with the blood of the infidels"?

I think people are a little to quick to brand terrorist on what was just an hot headed A-hole.

IMHO

I don't think "terrorizing" someone necessarily means that you make as though to put a bomb on a bus outside their favorite cafe. You can terrorize someone without the aid of a 757. If you threaten (not just say you're going to, I mean; like, if you make as to cause them harm... Make as...) to hurt somebody, and your actions lead them to a reasonable fear for life, limb, or property, I'd call that "terrorizing" them.

~GnSx
*squint* make as though... I've been away from English class for entirely too long.

f4t9r
January 19, 2006, 04:53 PM
Good move, he did what he had to do

Lennyjoe
January 19, 2006, 05:02 PM
Police charged Silak with recklessly endangering another person, simple assault and terroristic threats.

I guess everyone that owns a gun now is a terrorist? I agree with assault with a deadly weapon but a terrorist?

ka50
January 19, 2006, 05:16 PM
soon they'll say giving finger to someone is a terroristitc threat to individual wellbeing

Boxerrider
January 19, 2006, 05:18 PM
Another believer in the heavy & slow projectile.

"Wonder if I could pull that off on my scoot?"

You're better off with superior acceleration and handling. Never tried a truck but did it to a small buck once. One shot one kill but I broke a really nice Vesco fairing, and some other stuff.

Enjoy!

Thefabulousfink
January 19, 2006, 05:32 PM
I don't think "terrorizing" someone necessarily means that you make as though to put a bomb on a bus outside their favorite cafe. You can terrorize someone without the aid of a 757. If you threaten (not just say you're going to, I mean; like, if you make as to cause them harm... Make as...) to hurt somebody, and your actions lead them to a reasonable fear for life, limb, or property, I'd call that "terrorizing" them.

~GnSx
*squint* make as though... I've been away from English class for entirely too long.

We allready have a term for that, it's called "Assault". If you want to punish some one more for a crime, increase the penalties, don't invent new legal classifications for existing crimes:banghead: .

Sorry, just a little pet peeve of mine.:)

grimjaw
January 19, 2006, 05:34 PM
I guess everyone that owns a gun now is a terrorist?

Actually the guy with the gun was wielding two weapons: gun + vehicle.

How many people charged with "terrorististic threatening" have actually been convicted of it?

Good on the truck driver, though. I'd like my self defense weapon to be of the 18-wheeled variety, too.

jmm

Thefabulousfink
January 19, 2006, 05:41 PM
After seeing the results of too many car vs. semi, I just smile and wave when these guys drive by.:)

hm
January 19, 2006, 05:46 PM
I wonder if the "terroristic threats" statute was on the books pre-9/11 and if it's penalty carries the weight it might had it been adopted post 9/11.

Moondoggie
January 19, 2006, 06:17 PM
Here in NE "Making a terroristic threat" is a common charge that's added onto many assault situations. In our state uttering "I'm going to kill you if you tell the cops/testify/touch my dope/kick my dog/etc" is covered under "Making a terroristic threat". It has nothing to do with the other vernacular "terrorism" per se.

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