I may have respect for France again...


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Ermac
January 19, 2006, 11:39 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060119/wl_nm/nuclear_arms_france_dc_2

Its about time they say they will do something once.

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rick_reno
January 19, 2006, 11:44 AM
I'm pretty sure what he meant to say was that France would be ready to use nuclear weapons against any state that carried out a terrorist attack against it if that state didn't have multi billion dollar contracts in place with France to help them develop weapons of mass destruction. He muttered the latter part of the statement above and it wasn't picked up by the press.

Malone LaVeigh
January 19, 2006, 11:55 AM
How can we ever respect France? They for their own unfathomable reasons wouldn't believe that Iraq was awash in WMDs and that Saddam was a viable threat to the civilized world. They absloutely refused to accept the administration's word for all of the dire threats we swore to the world existed.

Now we know just how wrong they were.

1911 guy
January 19, 2006, 11:57 AM
"You fight like a frenchman."

Zundfolge
January 19, 2006, 11:58 AM
France defends right to nuclear reply to terrorism

Tranlation: Go ahead and nuke Iran ... we're not getting any kickbacks from them.

Ermac
January 19, 2006, 11:59 AM
How can we ever respect France? They for their own unfathomable reasons wouldn't believe that Iraq was awash in WMDs and that Saddam was a viable threat to the civilized world. They absloutely refused to accept the administration's word for all of the dire threats we swore to the world existed.

Now we know just how wrong they were.

your right, I just try to give everyone the benefit of dought
Do I have respect personally for France? HELL NO

carlrodd
January 19, 2006, 12:07 PM
chirac should be ashamed and embarrassed for even mentioning the word independence, as the very notion of any such lofty principle died shortly after the napoleonic era. the best thing that ever happened to france.....an italian. as far as security is concerned, perhaps he should concentrate on securing the comfort and safety of the nation's elderly during abnormally hot summers before worrying about what he'd do with his nukes.

birddog
January 19, 2006, 12:08 PM
I think it's notable that this statement came out, and was quickly followed by a purported new statement by Osama bin Laden. I wonder what's going on behind the curtains of the world stage right now. I won't be surprised to hear our color coded "terror level" increased a shade, or some statements coming out of the White House or the State Department warning of information about impending attacks.

Just a thought.

taliv
January 19, 2006, 12:10 PM
TALKING about defending yourself is easier than casting a frenchman into hell.

merk
January 19, 2006, 12:32 PM
Theyre getting all big and bad now, but during the Muslim riots months back they were doing all they could to appease them(Islamo-fascists). All I could think of was the Vichy government appeasing the Nazis.

France lost my respect. But people dont realize the damage they did to the invading Germans in 1940. Sure they capitulated a bit fast, they whooped some ass and didnt go down like some people think they did.

I dont think cowards could cause 27,000 deaths and over 100,000 wounded.

The prospect of nuclear war is pretty chilling though.

carlrodd
January 19, 2006, 02:10 PM
France lost my respect. But people dont realize the damage they did to the invading Germans in 1940. Sure they capitulated a bit fast, they whooped some ass and didnt go down like some people think they did.

I dont think cowards could cause 27,000 deaths and over 100,000 wounded.



almost TWO MILLION french soldiers surrendered during the battle of france. surrounded or not, how do TWO MILLION "men" just give up. i don't know about you, but if i was defending my homeland, i would be fighting harder than ever before, and to the end......especially if TWO MILLION of my countrymen were around me.

as far as the french putting up a fight, about all they did was die well. i think it's safe to assume that the brits caused far more german casualties than the french could ever have hoped to.

taliv
January 19, 2006, 02:25 PM
you're telling me that if you looked around and saw 2 MM frenchmen next to you, that'd you'd keep fighting?

glockamolee
January 19, 2006, 02:35 PM
AND... They will use Inspector Cluesoue (did I spell that right?) to track down the Islamic Sleeper Cells!

Thain
January 19, 2006, 03:36 PM
"You fight like a frenchman."

I dunno, is the Frenchman loyal to the cheese eating surrender monkeys of Vichy France, or one of the guerilla fighters of the French Resistance?

cambeul41
January 19, 2006, 05:41 PM
La Légion étrangère!

cbsbyte
January 19, 2006, 05:55 PM
I have always had great respect for the French people. No one should call the French weak. They do what is best for France. They are true patriots for their country in a part of the world where patriotism is seen as a negative. Millions died during WWI protecting their homeland, even with bad leadership and tactics. During WWII they could have easily beaten the Germans, since they had more men, better resorces, tanks and where fighting on home turf, if the military had been more acceptive of modern techniques instead of relaying on WWI tatics. Many soliders faught to the death even though they knew it was futile. Now they have the strongest military in Europe. And like Britian they use it to protect their own interests. Much like the US has done in recent history.

thorn726
January 19, 2006, 07:13 PM
and idle, irresponsible threat.
cowardly.

yeah, a tiny little nation with a few terrorists attacks us and we will lob a nuke and destroy the entire region.

i cant wait to meet my sister's husband (he's from France) he is SOOOOO getting put in a headlock.

if they had said they would invade, i would respect that (not them).

but using nuclear arms against minor nations- just plain irresponsible.

Maxwell
January 19, 2006, 07:18 PM
...You know, the US has been chanting "GLASS PARKING LOT!" for like 30 years now. Nations like France cry shame on us every time we do it.

Now when their tail is on the line, they say the exact same things and everyone cheers em on.

:scrutiny:

Oleg Volk
January 19, 2006, 07:25 PM
The last email I got from a Frenchman read:

Hi,

I'm 14 years old and I'm french. I like very much old revolver and my father has offered to me an old COLT NAVY 1851 which has some troubles. Some pieces are broken like the main spring, trigger and cylinder stop spring, cylinder lock.

Do you think i can buy these parts on the web? I dont't know where ; can you help me please. I would be so happy to repair it, not to shoot because it is very old and perhups dangerous, but to have abeautiful old revolver running.

Thank you for your help and excuse me for my english (it's my 2nd language at the college)

Seems to me that some are pro-gun. Seems to me that blanket disrespect for a whole people is just a bit bigoted.

Standing Wolf
January 19, 2006, 10:10 PM
I dunno, is the Frenchman loyal to the cheese eating surrender monkeys of Vichy France, or one of the guerilla fighters of the French Resistance?

I'm sure most of the original dozen authentic members of the resistance have died by now.

bg
January 19, 2006, 10:22 PM
I've read where the French Foreign Legion has some crazy
folks in it and they don't really believe in turning around
and going the other way when attacked. But then again
most ARE foreign.. Go figure :confused:

I think France would their hands FULL of trouble if they
were to take on Iran. Heck with the immigration of Muslims
into it's country be it legal or illegal, no telling what would
happen. I'm not busting Muslim's chops, but ya have to
admit some have it in for France in its status quo.

Be pretty strange if France fell to a Islamic majority
who ended running the whole sha-bang. :eek:

Mr.V.
January 19, 2006, 11:07 PM
It's amazing the contempt for the French given the fact that we would still be having tea and cucumber sandwiches at 4:00pm and bloodpies for breakfast if it weren't for their help.

Oh well, who can remember late 18th century history anyways?


Also, Ermac...I believe Malone LaVeigh was being ironic when he said, "They for their own unfathomable reasons wouldn't believe that Iraq was awash in WMDs"

...'cause like...there weren't any...

thorn726
January 20, 2006, 12:34 PM
Seems to me that blanket disrespect for a whole people is just a bit bigoted.

ehh, in a way, yes, but i think as Americans most of us are conditioned to believe that if we go to France, we are looked down on as "stupid Americans" etc. i think us and the french have an understanding that we are slobs and they are snobs

crap i am related to one of them now, and by default his whole family. i know he's a great guy. also we are all pretty much talking in terms of government action here, i hope all of us would ultimately take each person as an individual should we meet in person.
BUT
Maxwell ...You know, the US has been chanting "GLASS PARKING LOT!" for like 30 years now. Nations like France cry shame on us every time we do it.

SEriously!!! why is it ok for them to talk like that???

we could have solved Afghanistan in fifteen minutes , but we are better than that

JJpdxpinkpistols
January 20, 2006, 03:10 PM
La Légion étrangère!

Its probably germaine to note that the Foreign Legion is not allowed WITHIN France itself; Last I heard, they could have like 12 members inside France at any one time, for fear that they would take over.

They are mostly comprised of foreigners (thus the "foreign" legion), and after serving for 12 years, you may retire with full citizenship*

I agree with Oleg, tho. Blasting a country for the opinions of SOME of it's citizenry is kinda counterproductive and rather bigoted.

JJpdxpinkpistols.


*I might be talkin' out my a$$, as its been about 15 years since I looked at the FL. Things may have changed since then.

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