Different Walther PPK/S?


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mwpslp
January 19, 2006, 08:33 PM
What is the difference (if any) between the Walther PPK/S made by Interarms and the one made by Smith & Wesson? Which of the 2 is better?

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bubbygator
January 19, 2006, 09:25 PM
The obvious improvement is the beavertail to protect the web between thumb & trigger finger from being sliced.

ArmedBear
January 19, 2006, 09:31 PM
S&W added the beavertail to solve the bite problem with the little gun, as bubbygator said.

I believe the S&W is better all around, with better fit and finish (hence reliability), and a better trigger. Lots of positive stuff going around about the S&W; some complaints about the old Interarms.

1 old 0311
January 19, 2006, 09:42 PM
Hi MWP,

THE BEAVERTAIL, THE TRIGGER IS SMOOTHER (AND A LITTLE LIGHTER), THE FEED RAMP IS NOW CUT AFTER THE BARREL IS IN PLACE. STILL TAKES 2-300 ROUNDS TO BREAK IT IN, AND IT DOES LOVE LUBE, BUT I LOVE MINE. IT IS THE TIGER EDITION.

KEVIN

saboteur
January 19, 2006, 11:29 PM
I love my S&W PPK, also. Zero problems after 300 rounds. Sent it off to get Black-T finish so I can worry a little less about the lube and blued finish.

One more thing S&W improved was that they made it more drop safe by adding a firing pin safety.

progunner1957
January 20, 2006, 12:01 AM
"GUNS" magazine July 2005 has a review of the "new & improved" Walther PPK beginning on page 30. They had some good things to say about the new S&W made version of the PPK.

If you can get ahold of this issue of GUNS, it will answer your questions - try your local public library or you may be able to find it at a gun shop.

From what I have heard and read, the S&W made Walthers are the best ones so far.

MICHAEL T
January 20, 2006, 02:52 AM
I own one of the old Interarms, beside me at this monent. My has been trouble free for many a year. I have looked, handled the new S&W see some things I like and some things I don't. Today if buying I would get the S&W and smooth out the sharp edges . Some you could shave with. The Smith has a warrenty and Interarms doesn't. I don't like the lazer (? )writing I perfer the old.
Buy one keep it lubed use only factory mags and should be fine. Heavy trigger will lighten up a little and you will get use to it. It really only for fast close first shot anyway. Any distance I always thunb cock. Its my 90% carry pistol with a J frame getting most of whats left anymore.

BillinNH
January 20, 2006, 09:55 AM
[QUOTE=saboteur]I love my S&W PPK, also. Zero problems after 300 rounds. Sent it off to get Black-T finish so I can worry a little less about the lube and blued finish.


How about before and after pics after you get it back? I'm curious about the Black-T and what you think of it.

Bill

Murphster
January 20, 2006, 09:56 AM
Just for general information, I've got a new S&W PPK and like it. The new tang design does prevent slide bite. However, the edges of the tang are very sharp. The first twenty rounds through the gun left me bleeding (still have a scar). Looked just like slide bite but it's a free gift from S&W and their tang. On other forums and in some published tests of the gun, others had the same thing happen. Some advised changing the way one holds the gun or wrapping the grip in a cloth when practicing, etc. etc. I opted for the "Dremel Solution" and rounded the edges of the tang. Problem solved but it should have been solved before I bought the gun. Sounds like I don't like the gun which isn't the case. I actually like it a lot. Easily concealed and completely reliable. Just wanted to toss out that one small caveat.

ruger357
January 20, 2006, 12:53 PM
Just bought a new blued S&W PPK. Fit and finish are excellent, trigger pull is very much improved over the Interarms ppk/s I used to own.

saboteur
January 20, 2006, 02:19 PM
I will post pics of the Black-T PPK when it comes in (I may call and check on it soon). I never took a before pic, but I'll find a stock pic of the blued s&w ppk online somewhere for a comparison.

Murphster, I also have a scar from shooting 200 rds. at one range session(two really, that line right up with the tang on the web of my hand). I couldn't stop shooting it even though I was bleeding on it. Too much fun.

bulbboy
January 20, 2006, 02:20 PM
Love my S & W version! I carry it about 40% of the time. Just changed the grips to some from eaglegrips.com and now it really looks nice. Then add a nice Ok State holster and you're set!!
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f284/kevinmichaeldick/Waltherppks.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f284/kevinmichaeldick/OSU.jpg

Onmilo
January 21, 2006, 12:11 AM
Just for clarification,,,,
Interarms never made Walther PPK/S pistols.
They imported and sold French and German production pistols.
Earl's Repair Service is the authorized Walther-Germany Repair Center in the USA.
http://www.carlwalther.com

mwpslp
January 21, 2006, 12:31 AM
Hey bulbboy,

Are those the ebony grips I see on their site? Looks great.

Erich
January 21, 2006, 12:27 PM
Onmilo, you're incorrect. Beginning in 1979, Interarms had PPK/Ss made by Ranger Manufacturing Company down in Gadsden, Alabama. In 1986, they started making PPKs there as well.

Onmilo
January 21, 2006, 02:26 PM
Erich, I completely forgot the Ranger/Interarms connection.
However I stand on my original statement that Interarms never made Walther type firearms as a company unto themselves.
Sam Cummins was an importer and in some aspects, a gunrunner.
His Company did not directly manufacture anything.

MICHAEL T
January 21, 2006, 03:45 PM
Just for clarification,,,,
Interarms never made Walther PPK/S pistols.
They imported and sold French and German production pistols.
Earl's Repair Service is the authorized Walther-Germany Repair Center in the USA.
http://www.carlwalther.com


Really better tell that to all the people that worked at the factory in America makeing PPK,s They started makeing in America to keep the price down. Late 70's early 80's Mine clearly says on slide under Walther Banner MADE IN USA and other side says Interarms .
Who cares if Interarms sat and made or contracted They are Interarms PPK/S or PPK. and they wern't made overseas Since S&W now make under Lic from Walther These aren't really Walthers PPK/S either. As Walthers didn't make.
Lets see Star and Astra made Pistols for Colt are these Colts.

Onmilo
January 22, 2006, 06:58 PM
Semantics Michael T.
Uberti produces a copy of the Colt SAA that is every bit the quality of an original first generation Colt Single Action Army and in some ways they are even better, higher grade of steel, smokeless powder capable, etc. and I don't care what legend the importer chooses to stamp into the steel, these excellent guns are still, most emphatically, not Colts.

Manurhin made Walther PP and PPK pistols are every bit as good as the German made Walthers but they are French made and in my mind they are most emphatically not Walthers, they are copies.

No matter.
Interarms did not ever actually have a hand in building any of the Walther original and marked copy pistols.
They were an importer and distributer, and that is the point of my initial post to this thread.
Enough said on the matter.

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