[doseyclwn]

...offer to trade someone on here 20 new 124gr JHP Cor-bon 9mm +p ammo for some comparable non +p 9mm ammo? If it is illegal, then I will not. Basically, I didn't realize (yes, I"m a dumbass) that 9mm +P doesn't fit in a regular 9mm.

[Nightcrawler]

Who told you that?

While yes, it would be legal, I don't see the problem. +P ammo is simply higher pressure than standard ammunition; more powerful, if you will. If a standard 9mm load will push a 115 grain bullet to 1200fps, a +P load will push it to 1300fps, or something like that.

The two are perfectly interchangable, unless you have a gun that's not +P rated, and there aren't many of those. What kind of gun do you have? If it's a Ruger, Glock, Sig, S&W, CZ, Walther, Beretta, Browning, or most others you'll be fine.

[doseyclwn]

Hmmmmmmmmmm. Maybe it's the gun then. I have a Norinco 213 that will use standard 9mm, but it will not use this Cor-bon +P stuff. Anyone wanna trade?

[CZ-75]

Won't use +P as in "won't chamber"?

Or does the manual say not to use it.

You could shoot the box up in the latter case and then not buy +P again.

[triggertime]

The Norinco type 213 Tokarev is not +p rated?

[Mike Irwin]

I thought you could send ammo via the mail? Isn't that one of the things that 1986 GOPA did for us?

Or is that just for a company sending it to the end consumer?

[doseyclwn]

Won't use +P as in "won't chamber"?


Exactly.

[Nightcrawler]

Well, +Ps are dimensionally the same as standard pressure. If you have Cor-Bon's 9mm +P, they should fit into any 9mm chamber.

I'm thinking of two things.

1- The Cor-Bon flying trashcan hollowpoint is causing a failure to feed type deal in the Norinco pistol. (But even then, it'd go in eventually.)

2- The pistol in question is not, in fact, chambered for 9x19mm.

[Hkmp5sd]

Might just be the Cor-Bon bullet as mentioned above. My Glock 17 will not feed Cor-Bons, but will take anything else that I stuff into it.

[cratz2]

I do believe the CorBon 115 Gr loads are on the short side but they should chamber individually even if they won't feed. I've never heard of a clean 9x19 chamber that would chamber a 9x19 round of any sort.

[DontShootMe]

I also have a Glock 17 and carry Cor-Bon +P JHP rounds. No problems, no issues, no special precautions - Glocks (and many other quality pistols) digest almost anything you give 'em

...

as long as the caliber on the cartidge matches the caliber of your gun. ;)

[Justin]

2- The pistol in question is not, in fact, chambered for 9x19mm. Actually, Norinco made quite a few 9mm TT33's. And even if it's not a Chinese one, there are after-market drop-in barrels that will convert the 7.62x25mm gun to 9mm.

As to shooting +P rated ammo through a TT33...I'd shy away from it, personally, but I don't know all that much about these guns. Maybe someone with more experience will chime in and let us know whether it's ok to shoot the +P stuff through it.

[doseyclwn]

2- The pistol in question is not, in fact, chambered for 9x19mm.

Actually, it is. It says 9x19mm on the barrel and I use regular 9mm ammo in it all the time with no problems.

[blades67]

It sounds like that Cor-Bon ammo is out of spec.

[Hkmp5sd]

DontShootMe,

Just out of curiosity, what generation is your G17? Mine is a first generation and I can't shoot a single magazine of Cor-Bon without getting a FTF. It's rapidly approaching it's 20th birthday and Cor-Bon is the only cartridge I've came across that my G17 refuses to feed.

[Jim K]

Just to clarify one point.

No one can send ammunition of any kind by U.S. Mail (USPS). Period. You must use UPS or FedEx, and the shipping would be several times what the ammo is worth. Find a gun that will accept it and shoot it, give it directly to a friend, or trade it at a gun shop or gun show.

Jim

[Ed Ely]

One may not legallly trade nor sale ammo
unless they are licensed to do so.

As mentioned above, give it to a friend or
trade with a gunshop owner for something
that you like better.

Ed

[Justin]

One may not legallly trade nor sale ammo unless they are licensed to do so.
Not trying to denigrate you, but do you by any chance have a link to a website with a copy of the law stating that?

[DontShootMe]

3rd Gen. G17

Shoots everything (I mean EVERYTHING) with supplied 10 rnd mags. So far not one jam, ever.

I have an old 1st gen non-drop mag I've had from way back that I use at the range and it does have occasional feed issues. It doesnt seem to like JHP's.

[Thumper]

One may not legallly(sic) trade nor sale (sic) ammo

:confused:

I'd like to see a ref on that one also.

doseyclwn, could you post a pic of the corbon 9X19 you have? As noted above, external dimensions should match your other 9mm ammo exactly.

[c_yeager]

I think this thread wins the prize for the most off the wall nonsense ever in this place.

[Diesle]

Yes, very odd indeed.

I would TRADE it at a local shop. Seems like it would be the easiest way out of the problem ammo.

Diesle

[Tamara]

One may not legallly trade nor sale ammo

Do you, perchance, live in Massachussetts or Illinois?

[railroader]

http://www.hs2000talk.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000385 I think this might be what Ed is talking about. Mark

[COHIBA]

the ammo must be shippped by fedex, ups, ect. NOT USPS. the box must be marked ORM-D on all sides. it is prohibativly expensive to ship 1 20 rd box of ammo. i'd give it to someone w/ a glock or other "eat 'em all" pistol and find another rd to use.

[Ed Ely]

Boy, did I get my fifteen minutes of attention.

Railroader is correct in his reference, of which
I should have included in my comments to the
thread.

Before I made this reply, this reply right here,
I spent almost three hours this morning on the
net searching all data bases which would even
relate to the sale of ammunition. There appears
to be no restriction, unless you have been
convicted as a felon offender or the misdermeanor
conviction of spouse abuse (wife beater, husband
beater). We all have seen that question on the
4473's.

If I gave anyone a coronary, send me the bill.

[Justin]

Ed, Don't sweat it, everyone makes mistakes. Someone once posted on here something along the lines of 'a computer allows a person to make a mistake faster than any other human invention, with the possible exception of handguns and Tequila.'
I think most veteran posters on any forum have had times where they posted something that turned out untrue, but as long as everyone learns and the truth comes out, its all good in the end.:)

[coonan357]

Tamara it is not illegal to trade ammo in Illinois as long as the buyer or reciever is a foid card holder ,

[boing]

From the ATF Online FAQ (http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#f11):

(F11) Is a license required to engage in the business of selling small arms ammunition?

No. A license is not required for a dealer in ammunition only, but a manufacturer or an importer must be licensed.

[bompa]

Don't be picking on Mass.....
We have enough problems here allready..

[isaidme]

I found that the Corbon hollow points are actually shorter then other hollow points which I didnt like about them.I had a glock19 that feed this stuff with no problems but havent tried them in my BHP.

[roscoe]

Interesting . . . there is a similar thread on KTOG with Cor-Bon .32 ammo not working in a P32:

http://www.ktog.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3524

seems to ultimately have been a chamber problem