Giving firearms as gifts, Legal?


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BadAsh87
January 21, 2006, 03:21 PM
I live in NJ, but I was wondering.. If you have a firearm ID card, are you allowed to purchase a rifle for someone as a gift who is above 18? or do they also must have a permit?

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Carl N. Brown
January 21, 2006, 04:08 PM
New Jersey is one of the states where it is best to get--and
keep--a letter from the state attorney general on any firearms
related legal subject.

PeteRR
January 21, 2006, 11:05 PM
I live in NJ, but I was wondering.. If you have a firearm ID card, are you allowed to purchase a rifle for someone as a gift who is above 18? or do they also must have a permit?

I live in Jersey. I gave a new .22 pistol as a wedding gift to a friend of mine. He is a PA resident, so I didn't bother jumping through any legal hoops. If he had been a NJ resident, I would have done a transfer with a pistol purchase permit.

Lupinus
January 21, 2006, 11:15 PM
In NJ I think they need to have permits and such and register it and all that.

SIOP
January 22, 2006, 08:28 PM
I live in Jersey. I gave a new .22 pistol as a wedding gift to a friend of mine. He is a PA resident, so I didn't bother jumping through any legal hoops. If he had been a NJ resident, I would have done a transfer with a pistol purchase permit.

It's illegal for a nonlicensee to transfer any firearm to a resident of another state without going through an FFL.

tazbigdog
January 22, 2006, 11:15 PM
It's illegal for a nonlicensee to transfer any firearm to a resident of another state without going through an FFL.

I agree with you. Rifles and shotguns can be purchased from another state, but handguns must be transferred through a FFL.


I live in Jersey. I gave a new .22 pistol as a wedding gift to a friend of mine. He is a PA resident, so I didn't bother jumping through any legal hoops. If he had been a NJ resident, I would have done a transfer with a pistol purchase permit.

If you bought this firearm in NJ, carried it across state lines and gave it, loaned it, etc to another without transferring it through a FFL, you not only violated NJ firearms law, but federal also.

You best bet to rectify the situation is get the pistol, take it to your local FFL dealer and have them ship it to a FFL dealer in PA. The FFL dealer in PA can legally transfer it to your friend. This covers your butt and your friend's too!

Good luck,

Jeff

tazbigdog
January 22, 2006, 11:18 PM
I live in NJ, but I was wondering.. If you have a firearm ID card, are you allowed to purchase a rifle for someone as a gift who is above 18? or do they also must have a permit?

Hi,

If your friend lives in NJ and you are giving this as a gift, then they need a NJ Firearms ID. This can be obtained through your local PD. The better bet would be for you to give them the money and let them buy the gun.

PeteRR
January 22, 2006, 11:22 PM
I agree with you. Rifles and shotguns can be purchased from another state, but handguns must be transferred through a FFL.



If you bought this firearm in NJ, carried it across state lines and gave it, loaned it, etc to another without transferring it through a FFL, you not only violated NJ firearms law, but federal also.

You best bet to rectify the situation is get the pistol, take it to your local FFL dealer and have them ship it to a FFL dealer in PA. The FFL dealer in PA can legally transfer it to your friend. This covers your butt and your friend's too!

Being as it was 8 years ago, I think I'll pass. NJ can lick my nuts.

SIOP
January 22, 2006, 11:52 PM
I agree with you. Rifles and shotguns can be purchased from another state, but handguns must be transferred through a FFL.


ALL firearms must be transferred interstate by an FFL, not just handguns.

GigaBuist
January 23, 2006, 01:01 AM
You best bet to rectify the situation is get the pistol, take it to your local FFL dealer and have them ship it to a FFL dealer in PA. The FFL dealer in PA can legally transfer it to your friend. This covers your butt and your friend's too!

Actually it'd have been perfectly legal for the NJ resident to ship it to a PA FFL without an NJ FFL getting into the mix, if I'm not mistaken.

Seems to be a moot point at this juncture, however.

Optical Serenity
January 23, 2006, 01:10 AM
Its nice living in GA, you can give someone or sell someone a gun (handgun, longgun, doesn't matter) at 18 years old, as long as both parties are GA residents.

tazbigdog
January 23, 2006, 10:32 PM
Actually it'd have been perfectly legal for the NJ resident to ship it to a PA FFL without an NJ FFL getting into the mix, if I'm not mistaken.

Seems to be a moot point at this juncture, however.

Shipping Firearms

Firearms may not be mailed or shipped interstate from one non-FFL to another non-FFL. Personally owned rifles and shotguns may be mailed or shipped to an FFL in any state for any lawful purpose, including sale, repair, or customizing. An FFL may ship a firearm or replacement firearm of the same kind and type to a person from whom it was received. Under U.S. Postal regulations, handguns may be sent via the Postal Service only from one FFL to another FFL, or between authorized government officials.

A person may ship a rifle or shotgun to himself, in care of a person who lives in another state, for purposes of hunting.

http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/FederalGunLaws.aspx?ID=60

Handguns

It is unlawful to sell, give, transfer, assign, or otherwise dispose of, or receive, purchase, or otherwise acquire a handgun unless the purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver, or holder is licensed as a dealer under New Jersey law or has first secured a Permit to Purchase a handgun.

http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/StateLaws.aspx?ST=NJ

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