Amnesty ads target arms trade
Drizzt
January 26, 2006, 01:02 PM
Amnesty ads target arms trade
Thursday January 26th 2006, 11:10 am
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Amnesty International UK is to send spoof weapons catalogues through the post and email inboxes to highlight the shocking ease with which weapons can be bought. The pressure group is launching a campaign to raise awareness of the need for an international arms trade treaty to create legally binding arms controls and to regulate the sale of guns. The UK campaign includes a glossy mail order ’small arms catalogue’ from the fictitious Teleshop company featuring models posing with machine guns and automatic pistols. An email campaign will surprise internet users with fake special offers for weapons, while a roadshow tour of shopping centres across the UK will be manned by fake salespeople demonstrating the ease with which an AK47 machine gun can be assembled and fired.
A provocative cinema ad, which will be shown across the UK for the next four weeks, will take the form of a spoof teleshopping channel promotion. In it, sales presenters are seen talking up the firepower and reliability of the AK47 as a young boy demonstrates how the gun is so easy to use that even a child can fire it. Buyers will even be offered ammunition thrown in free when they place their order. (Media Guardian,January 26, 2006)
See the movie here: http://www.protectthehuman.com/teleshop/guns/ - you can have both a PSP, iPod or online version!
http://www.newspaperindex.com/blog/2006/01/26/amnesty-ads-target-arms-trade/
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Bergeron
January 26, 2006, 01:05 PM
What a tease. I just wish that I could buy that stuff easily and cheaply.
cracked butt
January 26, 2006, 01:08 PM
I should email them and tell them "thanks, but no thanks" as I already get a lot of sales flyers in the mail for cheap guns from Aim and Century.:D
BTR
January 26, 2006, 01:17 PM
I quite enjoyed the video. If only...
Creeping Incrementalism
January 26, 2006, 01:17 PM
Funny thing is, the only people who truly can buy firearms that easily are governments, especially in the U.K.
cracked butt
January 26, 2006, 01:22 PM
How did they get a AK or something hat looks like an AK for the ad? I thought that even cardboard cutouts that even remotely resemble an AK-47 were illegal in England.:confused: Elitists:banghead:
At the very least, after watching the video, I feel like buying an AK now, maybe I'll go shopping for one this weekend. Thanks, Amnesty. You brought into the light something I didn't know I needed.:)
waterhouse
January 26, 2006, 01:27 PM
[british accent] "head, lungs, heart obliterated . . .fantastic"[/bristish accent]
I thought the video was pretty funny.
Zundfolge
January 26, 2006, 01:31 PM
I love the "approximate range 1 kilometre" bit in the on screen graphic.
1 KM range from an AK? bull stuff! :rolleyes:
I also love how Amnesty International wants to ban the one thing people can use to PREVENT human rights violations and genocide :rolleyes:
Convenient for limousine liberals that they don't acknowledge self defense as a basic human right (yeah, I'm preachin' to the choir)
stevelyn
January 26, 2006, 01:33 PM
I saw the the story on the BBC World Report.
Anyone ever been so overwhelmed with BS you can't possibly respond in a coherent manner? Well that pretty much sums up the BBC's spin on it.:rolleyes:
cracked butt
January 26, 2006, 01:34 PM
Hey lookey here http://www.amnesty.org.uk/controlarms/millionfaces/ they have a site called 'million faces petition' where you can upload a picture of yourself with your favorite rifle for a pictorial petition. Unfortunately I couldn't open the page, but I'll have to keep an eye on it.
Deathrider1579
January 26, 2006, 01:34 PM
I really want a class 3 AK now!
-DR
cracked butt
January 26, 2006, 01:55 PM
I submitted this picture for the million faces petition. I wonder if it will make it. LOL.
Thefabulousfink
January 26, 2006, 02:22 PM
I was looking over their site, we should upload some of Oleg's pics to their "Stop Violence Against Women". After all, nothing stops a potential rapist like looking down the barrel of a Colt .45.:D
ArmedBear
January 26, 2006, 02:50 PM
Amnesty International somehow believes that being slaughtered by a brutal government is better than being able to defend oneself. They often make statements to that effect, lately.
I fail to understand how people who see so much evidence of state slaughter can be anti-self-defense. It must be some psychological phenomenon; it's sure not rational.
El Tejon
January 26, 2006, 03:01 PM
Pretty sloppy shooting for a Brit. That's just won't do, Ian. Give me 20 and flip that lever all the way down for single shots.:D
How many AK-47s come from the UK? Hmmm, maybe 0? Where do they come from? Oh, yeah, PRC, Russia, Eastern Europe, etc.
Wonder if the People's Republic of China gives three hoots about what some soft, spoiled blissninnies in the UK think?
Even if you did magically vacuum up all the AK-47s in Africa, African governments would continue to kill their people/subjects with spears, rocks and G3s.:neener:
Mk VII
January 26, 2006, 04:23 PM
I'll take three:D
Hope he's got some ear protection
boofus
January 26, 2006, 04:46 PM
I hope they distribute that trash here in the US. We should all call the ATF And turn in Amnesia International for tax evasion, sale and possession of unregistered machineguns, selling firearms for profit without a FFL, and anything else we can get them on. :scrutiny:
Lucky
January 26, 2006, 04:55 PM
...When she says, "Clyde, we're not going to get into trouble for this, are we?" Clyde puts hit finger on the trigger and points the muzzle at her abdomen... With a rifle carrying an inserted magazine that no-one has checked yet...
And those blokes are over-charging a wee bit for 2nd hand Kalashnikovs, I'd think.
El Tejon
January 26, 2006, 05:00 PM
Lucky, you can get the same AK from an Irishman much cheaper, and it's never been fired and only dropped once!:D
ElTacoGrande
January 26, 2006, 05:01 PM
If only it were that way. Let's see, if I want to buy an AK-47 in California, all I need to do is:
Start a Hollywood props company
Stay in business for about 20 years and get lots of major studios to use my services
Probably I need to make the right donations to the right people
Then I need to get a permit from the DoJ, and they have only issued less than half a dozen of them ever (AFAIK)
Then I need to locate and pay for a 30-year-old AK, which will probably cost me $20k or more
I have to go through an FBI background check
I have to pay various transfer fees
I have to wait several months for the BATF to approve it
Oh and I've invested so much money in this I also need to insure it so I don't risk losing it
Yeah it's THAT easy to get AK-47s around here.
boofus
January 26, 2006, 05:07 PM
Ridley Scott ended up shooting "Blackhawk Down" in Morocco because he couldn't get enough M16s and AK-47s in the US. Yep it's THAT 'easy' even for a bigtime director/producer with millions of dollars to spend.
AI should all move to oregon and take advantage of physician assisted suicides.
Oleg Volk
January 26, 2006, 05:17 PM
Wonder if there's any way to save that entertaining movie to the hard drive?
Manedwolf
January 26, 2006, 05:28 PM
Lucky, you can get the same AK from an Irishman much cheaper, and it's never been fired and only dropped once!:D
Excuse me? :scrutiny:
boofus
January 26, 2006, 05:49 PM
The sad thing is those bloody morons haven't figured out WHO exactly is selling all the arms to revolutionary forces, militias, and whatever...
Russia sold 100,000 Kalashnikov's to Hugo Chavez. Austria sold 800 .50BMG rifles to Iran. Chinese and Russian AKs are all over Africa. Those dimbulbs at amnesty haven't figured out the GOVERNMENTS are the ones that are selling thousands and millions of guns at a time, not Academy, Walmart, Jim's Sporting Goods and certainly not private citizens out of their own collections.
Guess what EVERY single arms control law EVER passed in ANY civilization since the START OF TIME had in common? Exemptions for the government. So essentially any ban that is passed would not prevent governments from continuing to do what they do now.
Are those "people" at AI terminally stupid??
GigaBuist
January 26, 2006, 06:54 PM
Wonder if there's any way to save that entertaining movie to the hard drive?
http://www.protectthehuman.com/teleshop/guns/files/teleshop_large.mov
Right click, and save!
dolanp
January 26, 2006, 07:02 PM
They complain a lot about how easy the AK is to fire and assemble. Would they feel better if guns were poorly designed perhaps? :rolleyes:
gezzer
January 26, 2006, 08:04 PM
They should send out Dillon catalogs :neener: :what:
Lucky
January 27, 2006, 12:34 AM
I always used to think that Amnesty International was a group that wrote thousands of letters to opressive dictators who wrongfully imprisoned red-cross workers, or something like that. Man was I wrong about them!!!
The sad part is that they believe they are doing good work, or something that other people tell them is good work. In reality they are trying to prevent people from arming themselves:cuss: and thus they are ensuring that massacres and genocides will continue to happen. Even if everyone is dis-armed massacres will happen, only if they are ALL armed will the massacres be prevented.
I mean heck, half those 'bloody conflicts' they talk about are probably PEOPLE DEFENDING THEMSELVES SO THEY DON'T GET MASSACRED.
"Oh no Clyde, that 14-year old has used a rifle! We both know that due to his young age and inferior strength he should have been chopped to death with machetes or beaten with sticks or simply kicked and pelted with rocks, because of the tribe he was born into. It's just wrong to see someone that young not being killed without the means to defend themselves."
I bet those sick bastards make another video to guilt-trip money out of people when a genocide happens in a country that they embargoed to keep firearms out of the hands of the victims. I'd say 'they're going to hell for that', but they ain't - they are making other people live and die in hell.
beerslurpy
January 27, 2006, 12:37 AM
That wasnt a year's worth of ammunition. They should see what I consider a month's supply lol heavy.
Also, that AK is retardely expensive. 474 quid for a stamped receiver AK? Well, there's one born every minute.
God I wish real AKs were that easy to get ahold of. Stupid ATF.
Zundfolge
January 27, 2006, 01:21 AM
I always used to think that Amnesty International was a group that wrote thousands of letters to opressive dictators who wrongfully imprisoned red-cross workers, or something like that. Man was I wrong about them!!!
They used to be.
But like most "political groups of conscience" they have become co-opted by the hard left who's agenda is anti-Republican, anti-American and anti-Capitalist. Most don't care if they are actually working against their own stated goals because they believe the most important thing in the world is to eliminate Republicans, America (at least our constitutional republic) and Capitalism and if they do that then all the other ills they have been ignoring will magically go away.
They are deluded fools who's hearts are in the right place however their heads aren't (I'll not say where their heads are so as to not offend Art's Grammaw ;) ).
Also, that AK is retardely expensive. 474 quid for a stamped receiver AK? Well, there's one born every minute.
Thats only about $265 ... thats about right for a Romanian and not bad for an underfolder (of course "da switch" would push it quite a ways up for a legal purchase here in the states).
Third_Rail
January 27, 2006, 01:34 AM
Zundfolge, I don't know if you converted quid to dollars correctly.
Zundfolge
January 27, 2006, 01:38 AM
Zundfolge, I don't know if you converted quid to dollars correctly.
I entered the following formula into Google
$474 = ?£
Third_Rail
January 27, 2006, 01:47 AM
That looks like a formula for how many pounds 474 dollars would be, not how many dollars 474 pounds would be.
According to what the pound is worth in USD right now, that would be about $843.86.
(1 GBP = 1.7803 USD)
beerslurpy
January 27, 2006, 01:49 AM
Dude your conversion is backwards. Thats like an 800-900 dollar AK. Underfolders are sweet, but for 900 dollars it better come with free hookers and coke.
beerslurpy
January 27, 2006, 01:51 AM
Hey lookey here http://www.amnesty.org.uk/controlarms/millionfaces/ they have a site called 'million faces petition' where you can upload a picture of yourself with your favorite rifle for a pictorial petition. Unfortunately I couldn't open the page, but I'll have to keep an eye on it.
http://www.controlarms.org/ and update with your favorite gun pic on the right.
John Q Freeman militia@land.free.home.brave just uploaded a sweet pic of a saiga12.
I chose "make me safe from armed violence" and added the comment: "the only real protection from armed violence is to arm yourself"
hmm most of the images are blank placeholders. http://www.controlarms.org/million_faces/index.php/gallery/country/237?pageID=492 Methinks that they are trying some sort of deception.
LAK
January 27, 2006, 06:13 AM
Amnesty International somehow believes that being slaughtered by a brutal government is better than being able to defend oneself. They often make statements to that effect, lately.
I fail to understand how people who see so much evidence of state slaughter can be anti-self-defense. It must be some psychological phenomenon; it's sure not rational.
Organizations like "Amnesty International" are probably ridden with government agent provocateurs.
Political tools of change.
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Hacker15E
January 27, 2006, 07:24 AM
What type of ammo is that in the belt?
El Tejon
January 27, 2006, 09:07 AM
Oh, man, did you guys check out the gallery! Did you see the people from Venezuela!!!:D Yugoslavia!!!:D Somalia!!!:D
Geez whiz, Juan, Maria and Hector, why don't you ring up your good buddy Chavez, saunter on down in your sandals and talk to El Presidente about ALL THE AK-47s HE JUST PURCHASED IN ORDER TO FORMENT REVOLUTION AND TERROR IN SOUTH AMERICA!:D
People in Yugoslavia support "controlling arms"? Yeah, it is really tough to kill Albanians and Croats who are armed.:rolleyes: As usual, it's a typical Leftist Hypocrisy Festival.:rolleyes:
O.K., now the important stuff that matters, who was the hottest chick in the gallery? I vote Catherine from Switzerland on page 15.:cool: Maybe some of our Swiss members know her and can get a phone number?:evil:
cracked butt
January 27, 2006, 09:51 AM
I chose "make me safe from armed violence" and added the comment: "the only real protection from armed violence is to arm yourself"
hmm most of the images are blank placeholders. http://www.controlarms.org/million_f...237?pageID=492 Methinks that they are trying some sort of deception.
I submitted my pic yesterday and chose the same tagline. My picture still isn't up. I wonder if it was the rifle or the .45 on my person that got me disqualified.
cracked butt
January 27, 2006, 09:58 AM
I vote Catherine from Switzerland on page 15.
Ah man, you'll never get anywhere with her if you spell her name wrong.
http://www.controlarms.org/million_faces/index.php/photo/id/1136744?start=300&pageID=16&a=search
Lucky
January 27, 2006, 01:52 PM
http://www.controlarms.org/million_faces/photos/7/c/6/001819735.jpg
GTSteve03
January 27, 2006, 02:04 PM
Thats only about $265 ... thats about right for a Romanian and not bad for an underfolder (of course "da switch" would push it quite a ways up for a legal purchase here in the states).
Can you even buy an AK with "da switch" here in the US anymore? I guess if it was a beat-to-hell 60's version, that's probably been over half the world first. The '86 GC bill prevented any full autos from being imported that were newer, correct?
So we don't even have to worry about being able to get any new ones from a catalogue here. :banghead: :cuss: :fire:
Zundfolge
January 27, 2006, 02:10 PM
Yep ... looks like I got it bass akward ... oops :uhoh:
At any rate, a full auto transferable AK47 would probably be at least ten times that cost in the US (Assuming one can even find one, since they have been made since 1947 I would assume that there are a few that where imported before the '68 and '86 changes in the law).
If its a nice AK like a Polytech it might be worth a grand or so even if its semi auto only.
carlrodd
January 27, 2006, 02:14 PM
AI should all move to oregon and take advantage of physician assisted suicides.
hahahahahahahaha
El Tejon
January 27, 2006, 04:25 PM
cracked butt, NO, I DID NOT, that's NOT her. Catherine, I would never cheat on you.
Here she is, the hairy-legged, tofu eater that captured my heart: http://www.controlarms.org/million_faces/index.php/photo/id/613470?start=200&pageID=11
ElTacoGrande
January 27, 2006, 04:37 PM
I'm tempted to add a picture of myself to that, showing how effectively I am able to control my Glock. I wonder if they would let me do that?
Btw, it is PAINFUL to see this bozo covering the woman on the video with his AK.
KriegHund
January 27, 2006, 04:39 PM
A provocative cinema ad, which will be shown across the UK for the next four weeks, will take the form of a spoof teleshopping channel promotion. In it, sales presenters are seen talking up the firepower and reliability of the AK47 as a young boy demonstrates how the gun is so easy to use that even a child can fire it. Buyers will even be offered ammunition thrown in free when they place their order. (Media Guardian,January 26, 2006)
Sounds great! Where can i sighn up???
Bartholomew Roberts
January 27, 2006, 06:48 PM
You know, even IANSA acknowledges that the US and UK have some of the most restrictive small arms export laws in the world. I wonder why the antis spend all of their time marketing this trash to the US and UK? Maybe they felt the governments of Russia and China might not be as receptive to their criticism?
boofus
January 27, 2006, 07:16 PM
All the legal full-auto AKs I've seen range in price from $14,000-$20,000 or more. Not counting the additional transfer taxes and the FFL transfer fee.
Transferable AKs are one of the few guns that make M16s and MP5s and even Steyr AUGs look cheap. Simply because much fewer were imported and converted before the deadline.
As expensive and hard to get as legal AKs are here in the states, I am willing to bet in the UK it's 1,000 times harder or even impossible. Those amnesty and IANSA retards are just flat out dishonest.
mordechaianiliewicz
January 27, 2006, 07:42 PM
You do realize the Brits are insane don't you. Now that they've gotten rid of their own guns and given up their own civil rights, they now want to export this form of political suicide to the rest of the world
Gatman
January 27, 2006, 09:29 PM
Sounds great! Where can i sighn up???
+1
I'll take two. Gotta get one for the girl...
Gatman
January 27, 2006, 09:32 PM
Doesn't this page have a lot of people who are standing in front of bleachers?
http://www.controlarms.org/million_faces/index.php/search?pageID=11
Most of them look like high schoolers. Somehow that is wrong they are exposed to the brainwashing. I feel that they should be allowed to make their own choices once they are in college.
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