IS there a CA-legal Saiga .308?


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Kenshin
January 28, 2006, 12:16 AM
Heard it from calguns.net. Is there such a model?:)

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Harry Tuttle
January 28, 2006, 02:19 AM
its a kalashnikov

nope

http://premium1.uploadit.org/docZox///saiga.jpg

beerslurpy
January 28, 2006, 03:10 AM
Wrong. Kalshnikov USA Saiga is banned by name. EAA and RAAC Saiga's were not named, so they are not officially kalashnikov-series guns. The same goes for AR series guns that havent been specifically named by CA DOJ.

It's true. There was a lawsuit over it several years back.

Fire4Effect
January 28, 2006, 05:52 AM
Just had to say I love my Saiga .308 It gets shot along with my CX-4 more than any other gun I own, however I think a FN/FAL .308 is in my near future:D

Kenshin
January 30, 2006, 11:57 PM
So wait, is it legal or not?

Harry Tuttle
January 31, 2006, 12:30 PM
INTRODUCTION
For the purposes of this guide, assault weapons are divided into three categories. These are: Category 1 - Penal
Code section 12276 subdivisions (a), (b), (c) (Roberti Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989); Category 2
- Penal Code section 12276 subdivisions (e) and (f) (Kasler v. Lockyer, AK and AR-15 series assault weapons);
and Category 3 - Penal Code section 12276.1 (SB 23 - generic characteristic assault weapons). A combined
listing of Category 1 and Category 2 assault weapons can be found on page 82.

Category 1. The Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989
This was California’s first assault weapons act. Under this act, any firearm on a list specified in Penal Code
section 12276 is considered an assault weapon. Such assault weapons are controlled (i.e., may not be legally
purchased, kept for sale, offered for sale, exposed for sale, given, lent, manufactured, distributed, or imported)
after December 31, 1991, and were required to be registered as assault weapons with the Department of Justice
on or before March 31, 1992. In addition, the Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act controlled AK and
AR-15 series assault weapons (Penal Code section 12276, subd (e) and (f) - see Category 2). These assault
weapons are controlled regardless of whether they have Category 3 (Penal Code section 12276.1 - SB 23)
characteristics. The only legal option for Category 1 assault weapons that were not registered on or before
March 31, 1992, is to surrender them to law enforcement pursuant to Penal Code section 12288.

Category 2. AK and AR-15 Series Weapons
The California Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of
1989 in Kasler v. Lockyer. This decision took effect August 16, 2000. Effective August 16, 2000, firearm
models that are variations of the AK or AR-15, with only minor differences from those two models, are assault
weapons under the original Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989. AK and AR-15 series weap-
ons were controlled as of August 16, 2000, and must have been registered as assault weapons with the Depart-
ment of Justice on or before January 23, 2001. The only legal option for Category 2 assault weapons that were
not registered on or before January 23, 2001, is to surrender them to law enforcement pursuant to Penal Code
section 12288. These assault weapons are controlled regardless of whether they have Category 3 (Penal Code
section 12276.1 - SB 23) characteristics.

Category 3. Generic Characteristics
As of January 1, 2000, Senate Bill 23 (Chapter 129, Statutes of 1999) provided that firearms that have charac-
teristics falling under any of the categories listed in Penal Code section 12276.1 are assault weapons. These
assault weapons were controlled as of January 1, 2000, and must have been registered as assault weapons with
the Department of Justice on or before December 31, 2000. However, a person arrested for possession of an
unregistered Category 3 assault weapon on or before December 31, 2001 could have registered it under condi-
tions specified in Penal Code section 12280(c) pursuant to reducing the charge to an infraction. On and after
January 1, 2002, the only legal option for Category 3 assault weapons that are not registered is to surrender
them to law enforcement pursuant to Penal Code section 12288. An exception for peace officers is addressed
on the next page.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/awguide.pdf

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/

50 Freak
January 31, 2006, 06:30 PM
Category 2 Assault Weapons Ban (The AR/AK Series Ban) was struck down by Harriot vs. Kings County in 2001.

That is why you are seeing a ton of AR and AK receivers being bought by Californians.

Getting back to the subject. Even though some brands of "Saigas" have not been named. The fact is the "Saiga" is a listed name under the the Catagory 1 (Roberti-Boob Act of 1989) may make it a little too "close" for some people.

Want an 308 AK? Look at the Veprs, they were never listed.:evil:

Keep in mind, your choice after buying these weapons is one of two things, either pin a 10 rounder in or keep the Pistol Grip off.

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