[fjolnirsson]

John Gilmore case... (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AIRLINE_IDS?SITE=FLMYR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)


Gilmore's lawyer, William Simpich, said he is weighing whether to appeal.

He said government regulations should be disclosed in writing to the public. While millions of passengers willingly show their IDs at airports, Simpich said there is no way to know whether the regulations call for impermissible searches because the government, and the court, won't make them public.

The court rejected the argument, saying airport signs and airline workers give adequate notice that an ID is required.


For more on the original case....GilmoreVs. Gonzales (http://papersplease.org/gilmore/)

On the 4th of July 2002, John Gilmore, American citizen, decided to take a trip from one part of the United States of America to another. He went to Oakland International Airport -- ticket in hand -- and was told he had to produce his ID if he wanted to travel. He asked to see the law demanding he show his 'papers' and was told after a time that the law was secret and no, he wouldn't be allowed to read it.

So, we can be required to obey laws without being allowed to see those laws in writing....

I know, I know, he doesn't have to fly.
Nevermind, carry on. :scrutiny:

[Dionysusigma]

You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide.













;) :scrutiny: :uhoh:

[roo_ster]

Why are you even discussing thise topic? It is SECRET.

I bet you hate puppies, too.

[LAK]

To put this in context; sometimes people are aquitted, or perhaps more accurately, cases are dismissed, because the law in question is "unclear" so as a reasonable and prudent person would not know what it means at all.

For such secret laws to be acceptable within the bounds of our jurisprudence is a legal and Constitutional outrage. The word tyranny springs to mind; so does treason.

And no surprize to me that the U.S. Congress does not impeach these judges and then have them tried and imprisoned. This country is well on the way to a major shipwreck.
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[boofus]

Nothing from the 9th circus court surprises me any more.

That's why getting good justices on the SCOTUS is so important. So they can overrule the garbage that comes out of the land of fruits and nuts.

[LSCurrier]

Nothing from the 9th circus court surprises me any more.

That's why getting good justices on the SCOTUS is so important. So they can overrule the garbage that comes out of the land of fruits and nuts.


AMEN!!!

I couldn't agree more!!!

Luke

[michiganfan]

Darn shame the constitution gets in the way of the law

[fjolnirsson]

Wow. 140 views so far, only 4 people have anything to say about it. Bump.:neener:

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Hmm, got two more response while I posted. Not bad....

[tube_ee]

Nothing from the 9th circus court surprises me any more.

That's why getting good justices on the SCOTUS is so important. So they can overrule the garbage that comes out of the land of fruits and nuts.

So the current nominee, who would likely concur with this kind of crap (see his record) satisfies you?

--Shannon