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PITBULL
January 31, 2006, 01:57 PM
at 25 50 75 to 100 yards how does your 22lr group

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hksw
January 31, 2006, 02:12 PM
Got a few .22lrs. The best ones I have will group 0.25-0.50"@50yds - 5 shots, double that @100yds regularly. Don't shoot 25yds and 75yds much with rifle. The worst one will do ~1.50-2.00@50yds and about 5.00-6.00" @100yds regularly. I could possibly get the 50yd groups down to ~1.00" if I used match ammo but I'm not willing to waste the ammo to see.

ArmedBear
January 31, 2006, 03:57 PM
My stock 10/22 with a 4x Simmons 22 Mag Compact scope on it puts all 10 through a big ragged hole at about 20 yards at the indoor range. That's with cheap ammo, but cheap ammo that it likes.

A match rifle can do better at 100 yards. But we're talking bolt action single shot with a 36x scope on it, and expensive ammo (for .22LR anyway).

An interesting option is PMC Scoremaster. It's "practice match" ammo, just a little more $ than regular stuff but subsonic and nice and accurate. It's not the cleanest stuff, but it'll do for accuracy practice. Accuracy nuts clean the barrel a LOT, like every few shots or every shot if they're competing.

.22LR Benchrest is silly but amazing. I tried it once. Nice people. High financial barrier to entry.:)

Lonestar.45
January 31, 2006, 04:02 PM
My 24 year old Marlin 60 will put 5 rounds touching or nearly in one hole at 25 and 50 yds, you could cover the group with a nickel. This is from a benchrest, w/ a Bushnell 4x scope and cheap Remington ammo by the brick. This gun has probably 10,000 rounds through it or so, by my estimation, since I bought it new.

At 75, it opens up to about a silver dollar sized group. At 100 yds, well, opens up to about the size of a coffee can lid or thereabouts. The drop is about 8 - 10 inches at 100 yds, and I don't shoot it that distance often, except just to see what it will do now and again.

Kramer Krazy
January 31, 2006, 04:10 PM
Old, stock Ruger 10/22 carbine (Ca. 1981) with a Bushnell 4x32mm scope will do about 5" groups off a sandbag at 100 yards with 500 round bulk ammo from Walmart. I think 50 yards is about 1.5"-2" with groupings being about ten shots each (the 4x doesn't help a lot at 100 yrds, but is more helpful at 50 yrds). I've never actually paid attention to the groups, I just try to make really big holes out of little tiny holes......even if it takes 50 rounds. :D

atblis
January 31, 2006, 04:19 PM
Ruger 77/22 VBZ worked over
normal <.5" at 50 yards
with Eley something or other .25-.40" (Too expensive but)

KFS NS522
<.5" with CCI Standard velocity at 50 yards
Haven't played too much with this one yet. Really doesn't like certain ammo.

At 100 yards, all of my 22s exhibit a lot of vertical stringing. This is probably the ammo.
3000 +- 100 not a big deal
1000 +- 100 big deal

MCgunner
February 1, 2006, 10:05 AM
My best is my old Remington M512 that groups about 3/4" at 50 yards, a little tighter with RWS Target, under 1/2 inch. It's the one I break out for our little club .22 matches. I've placed in some shoots with it, don't remember if I actually won any, but there are no real target .22s shooting and it's very informal. I"m shooting against Marlin M60s and such, not Anschutz rifles or anything.:D My 10/22 will put 'em in a little under 2" as will my cheapo little AR7 Explorer (neat little gun, but not exactly a match grade gun). My old Mossberg M152 will shoot most ammo into 2" at 50 yards, but RWS target is unreal accurate in that rifle and will go under 1" at that range. That gun has never been anything spectacular, just a cheap OLD rifle that my step dad gave me. First time I shot RWS target through it, I about dropped my jaw. :eek: It is mundane ordinary with any other load.

The majority of my .22 shooting is plinking and small game hunting and all these rifles are fine for that. The 10-22 is my iron sighted gun, will stay that way. I have scopes on the others. A scope would probably shrink the 10-22s fifty yard groups a tad, especially since my eyes ain't gettin' any better. 2" is pretty good, though. I can't get that every time, though. That's just the best I can do with the sights. I have a scope mount for it, but I don't care to bother with a scope. I know it ain't no match grade gun, didn't buy it thinking it would be.

BTW, I've fired the Eley ammo, but don't remember it being much if any better than RWS Target and it's more expensive. So, I've settled on RWS target for serious accuracy. I don't shoot much of it, though.

Third_Rail
February 1, 2006, 10:34 AM
My Romanian .22 caliber training rifle will do just over 1" at 75 yards with CCI minimags, but that doesn't seem to be typical with them.

CB900F
February 1, 2006, 10:48 AM
Pitbull;

I don't punch much paper anymore, did that & got bored with it. I hunt what are called 'gophers' here. Actually, they are ground squirrels & more closely related to p-dogs, but about 1/2 size.

I have two guns that are one shot, 100 yard guns on gophers. A Ruger 77/22 and a Volquartsen 10/22. My Savage MKII .22 was about a 75 yard gun at best, but it's recently been sold to finance: The new CZ 452 American LHB that's going to be wearing a Nikon Monarch 3.3-10X A/O mil-dot.

I have high hopes for the new kid, we shall see.

900F

Sactown
February 1, 2006, 11:33 AM
My FrankenRuger does subdime at 75 yards with Winchester Dynapoint.

atblis
February 1, 2006, 11:36 AM
It always shot really well out of my Ruger. Walmart doesn't carry it, and Kmart just quit. I've got no reason to go in Kmart. Actually they sell Hoppes Benchrest (Walmart doesn't). Walmart sucks. It's quickly becoming pointless for me to go in Walmart.

MCgunner
February 1, 2006, 12:37 PM
Walmart sucks

Just don't say that too loud around any trailer parks.

PITBULL
February 1, 2006, 01:10 PM
i love walmart go in there at least 3 times a week

Khornet
February 1, 2006, 02:57 PM
with Win. Power Points makes 0.2" 5 shot 50 yd groups over and over.

atblis
February 1, 2006, 04:48 PM
My Walmart sucks (the managements anyways). I refuse to believe that they don't have the ability to tailor the contents of their store for the area they live in.

No Archery equipment despite it being late bow season
No Duck/Goose hunting equipment. They tried to sell me #8 lead 20 gauge for Geese. Didn't even ask what kind of gun I have.
They're always out of 22lr and 9mm. For god's sake order more of it!
Their cleaning supply selection is pathetic.

It's just that the last three times I've been in there, they haven't had anything remotely close to what I was looking for.

Aneat
February 1, 2006, 06:50 PM
I recently got a CZ 452 bolt 22 and I was very impressed with the accuracy. I fired a few rounds getting it zeroed in and fired off three 5 shot groups at 50 yrds. All were under 1/2 inch, I was using Wolf target ammo.

Wllm. Legrand
February 1, 2006, 07:49 PM
Please remember that according to THR rules, all claims to any specific accuracy can be called on for duplication by any member.

Any THR poster found to be unable to duplicate any accuracy claimed, under pressure of time, under field conditions, upon demand, must buy the drinks for the entire night for the THR member challenging said accuracy claim. :D

hksw
February 1, 2006, 09:56 PM
OK.

I was trying out some lower end ammo through a 10/22 modded with a Bell and Carlson Anschütz (silhouette)-style stock and Green Mountain barrel. Older Leupold VariX-III 6.5-20X40 (non-target). Outdoors at the Grand River public range in NE OH.

The Wolf Match Extra seemed to do very well. The Fed Lightening and Aquila Match Rifle not so good. The black circle is 1", the grids are 1/8".

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=34872&d=1138848684

pbhome71
February 1, 2006, 10:35 PM
From my experience, 50 yds group does not translate into 2x that size at 100 yards.

Mine 100 yds groups seems to be 4-5x the size of 50 yards group. I'm not sure what cause this.

Whatever it is, I'm sure it is not me... :rolleyes:

-Pat

Aneat
February 1, 2006, 10:42 PM
Hey HKSW, Where do you get those targets, I really like the layout:)
Looks like that Green Mountain barrel really shoots.


Adam

hksw
February 1, 2006, 11:26 PM
I actually did that one in MS Word 2000 (using the Draw toolbar helps quite a bit). IMO, though, I like using Word 97 as you can snap the grid lines down to 0.10" distances. 2000 snap them in goofy distances, 1/27, 1/13.5. You have to edit the endpoints to get them exactly where you want them. I've since modified it making the information section bigger and more spread out for easier writing.

Let me know and I'll e-mail you a copy if you want.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=34886&d=1138854379

garrett1955
February 1, 2006, 11:53 PM
with big box of remington ammo I can shoot quarter size groups an 75- 100 yds. good enough for me!

texasguy
February 2, 2006, 01:37 AM
with big box of remington ammo I can shoot quarter size groups an 75- 100 yds. good enough for me!

With What!?! I can throw remingtons and hit stuff better than shooting them with my custom 10/22. CCI and federal, on the other hand, shoot .5" at 50 yards, all with an aluminum barrel.

Gohon
February 2, 2006, 01:58 AM
i love walmart go in there at least 3 times a week

Yeah me to, and I don't live in a trailer park.:(

PITBULL
February 2, 2006, 02:31 AM
Yeah me to, and I don't live in a trailer park.:(
i don't live in a trailer park but live in a trailer lol

Berek
February 2, 2006, 02:49 AM
I actually did that one in MS Word 2000 (using the Draw toolbar helps quite a bit). IMO, though, I like using Word 97 as you can snap the grid lines down to 0.10" distances. 2000 snap them in goofy distances, 1/27, 1/13.5. You have to edit the endpoints to get them exactly where you want them. I've since modified it making the information section bigger and more spread out for easier writing.

Let me know and I'll e-mail you a copy if you want.

Maybe just ZIP it and post it. I like the layout as well. It looks to give good side-by-side. That would be great for load compare/reloading compare...

"Please sir. I'd like some more" :)

Khornet
February 2, 2006, 08:35 AM
I think the comment that good 50 yd groups do not equal good 100 yd groups is spot on. Could be because of passing through and then back through the sound barrier, or the sensitivity to wind of that little bullet.

Wllm. Legrand
February 2, 2006, 10:22 AM
From my experience, 50 yds group does not translate into 2x that size at 100 yards.

Mine 100 yds groups seems to be 4-5x the size of 50 yards group. I'm not sure what cause this.

Whatever it is, I'm sure it is not me... :rolleyes:

-Pat


It's called the "morning glory effect". The effect of the variables in play have a compounded effect beyond the mere arithmetric sum.

Lupinus
February 2, 2006, 10:42 AM
If I take my time I can make coffee can lid (the normal size ones not them big whammer jammers) but then I haven't been shooting that long, the rifle is still getting broken in, I'm still getting used to the rifle, and I'm not exactly the worlds most steady shooter or have the best eyes. Open sights, no sope yet.

dfaugh
February 2, 2006, 11:48 AM
Well, I've just about quit posting to these type of threads,as no one ever believes me...

I've got a Marlin 60(bone stock, given to me by a friend before he died) I added some good rings and a Tasco Pronghorn (3-9x) scope on it....Tried a wide variety of ammo for it...

I recently shot the best group ever, using Wolf Match Target ammo..This is from a bench rest at 50 yards. 10 shot group that can easily be covered with a dime. Measuring center-to-center its close to a 1/2" group...

I've shot groups (10 shot) at 100 yards with this gun(again, benchrest under ideal conditions,as in no wind) that were around 3/4", IF you discount the one or two flyers I usually manage to throw in (and I can call these every time)...Even with the flyers, I've had one group at 1.25"...I think with a more powerful scope (9x isn't quite enough at 100 yards) I should be able to manage a sub-MOA group.

Haven't got my scanner hooked up at the moment, but I'll post a picture of the group, if I have time to hook it up soon.

Probably gonna buy a higher powered scope soon, just because I'm intriged to see what I can possible do with this thing...It has no right to be this accurate (my buddy has a $2500 target rifle, and can't quite best my 50 yard groups!)....After all, its a $125 autoloader!

YodaVader
February 2, 2006, 12:53 PM
This is a 5 shot target I shot with a 10/22 at 50 yards. It has an aftermarket barrel.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a106/celestron4/besttarget.jpg
These are a couple of 100 yard groups fired with a CZ 452 Special. With a proper trigger I am sure the groups would be tighter - the CZ has miles of trigger creep.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a106/celestron4/CZ100yds.jpg

My old Sako shot some remarkable 100 yard groups , but like dfaugh above , no one believed the targets and I was basically called a liar on another forum.

pbhome71
February 2, 2006, 01:12 PM
Yoda,

and I was basically called a liar on another forum.

Wow. That was pretty harsh. I think I know where it was.

BTW, What kind of grouping do you get on your 10/22 at 100yds?

-Pat

Firehand
February 2, 2006, 01:14 PM
Remington 512 with Federal Lightning will get about 1/2" groups at 50.

My Martini model 12 with Lightning or Eley Sport will shot 1.5" groups at 100; wonderfully accurate little thing.

JohnBT
February 2, 2006, 01:18 PM
The usual discussions seem to occur over whether one great group means a rifle is a sub-MOA gun at 50 or 100 yards or whether it has to do it regularly - group after group after group.

I've shot some screaming groups, but I'm not good enough to do it time after time even using wind flags. Of course, maybe shooting a bunch of .2" or .25" groups at 50 yards on a pleasant day with a Cooper, Finnfire or Rem 541-S isn't that great of an accomplishment given the quality of the guns. :cool:
I know I can't do it with my '63 Mountie, so it must be the guns, right?

John

Firehand
February 2, 2006, 02:36 PM
Dfaugh, I believe you. My daughter has one, and it's always been quite accurate with ammo it likes.

Aneat
February 2, 2006, 05:36 PM
Let me know and I'll e-mail you a copy if you want.



HKSW; That would be great, or just post it here if you like.


Thanks; Adam

Wllm. Legrand
February 2, 2006, 08:02 PM
Good groups? Humbug...(Not my actual choice of words, but ....)

I'm reminded of bench-rest shooting...a tangential stepchild to actual marksmanship, using rifles and equipment designed to take personal skill at arms out of the equation.

The question is, how good at shooting are you?

What can you do with:

1) one shot (nature and man rarely allow second shots)?

2) in improvised field positions (I know sitting on your butt on a concrete shooting bench helps things, especially with a rest, but I've rarely found such conditions in the field)?

3) under pressure of time (Maybe it's just me, but sometimes my quarry doesn't give me all the time in the world to make the best shot I could)?

4) in funky weather, wind, sun in your eyes (not like the north facing range), etc., etc....

5) and under pressure of the moment? (Try having a companion yell at you or shoot after you've run back 200 yards after posting a new target when you wind and pulse may be higher...)

I would wonder how many of you fellows actually USE a sling? Or practice improvised field positions? I'm sure some do, but....

Don't major in minors, and minor in majors.....

Just my opinon.....(worth what you paid for it...)

hksw
February 2, 2006, 09:03 PM
Maybe just ZIP it and post it.

How do you zip a *.doc file? I don't have a program that specifically zips files but does MS have one imbedded in one of their programs I can use? (I have the regular office suite for home.)


Oh, also, forgot to mention the modded 10/22 also has a Kid trigger in it.

f4t9r
February 2, 2006, 09:24 PM
10/22 with Hammer Forged Barrel will drive nails

Khornet
February 6, 2006, 10:21 AM
if you think benchrest shooting eliminates the need for marksmanship, you need to read more. Naturally, every rifle on the line at a bench match will be superbly accurate, most being capable of making the proverbial one-hole-of-caliber-diameter group.....IF it weren't for the effects of wind, light, atmospheric changes, and shooter error. It takes as much skill and craftiness to win a bench match as it does to excel at offhand target or to shoot minute-of-water buffalo when charged.

YodaVader
February 6, 2006, 10:39 AM
Yeah , I am amazed at those who think that shooting from a rest implies you have no real skill at shooting. The military snipers you read about making their long range kills are doing it utilizing a resting position. Does that indicate they have no skill? Should they try their shots from a standing position to make things more fair? True, they were outstanding rifle marksman (shooting from all positions) before ever being chosen to become a sniper but the fact they utilize a rest must mean they have no skill.

If the benchrest game was so easy anyone just starting out would shoot groups as well as seasoned veterans. Try shooting a one hole group on a breezy gusty day.

Khornet
February 7, 2006, 04:35 PM
50 yds from sandbag rest, Ruger 77/22 and Model 52B, both with fixed 4X scopes, Win. Power Point and CCI Mini Mag 22 High speed.

Infidel
February 7, 2006, 04:49 PM
Good groups? Humbug...

I'm reminded of bench-rest shooting...a tangential stepchild to actual marksmanship, using rifles and equipment designed to take personal skill at arms out of the equation.

The question is, how good at shooting are you?
blah, blah, blah ....

Bah, Humbug back to you.

For many of us (I think, but certainly for me), shooting from a bench rest is all about testing the rifle and ammunition, and is most definitely arranged to take as much as possible of the shooter out of the "equation".

Shooting from field positions is about testing the shooter, and is best done with a proven rifle shooting proven ammo.

It is my experience that people who belittle others' way of shooting are themselves limited in their skills, and in their understanding of shooting in general.

ford_shooter
February 7, 2006, 11:05 PM
I haven't shot my 10/22 in a LONG time but when I did i would take out sparrows at bout 85 yards and shoot old light bulbs. I got really good at that.Never really shot a group so i don't know what my MOA would be

PITBULL
February 7, 2006, 11:11 PM
what dose moa mean

ford_shooter
February 7, 2006, 11:29 PM
MOA=Minute of Angle, If i'm correct at 100 meters 1moa = 1in 2moa=2in and so on

Wllm. Legrand
February 7, 2006, 11:29 PM
Yeah , I am amazed at those who think that shooting from a rest implies you have no real skill at shooting. The military snipers you read about making their long range kills are doing it utilizing a resting position. Does that indicate they have no skill? Should they try their shots from a standing position to make things more fair? True, they were outstanding rifle marksman (shooting from all positions) before ever being chosen to become a sniper but the fact they utilize a rest must mean they have no skill.

If the benchrest game was so easy anyone just starting out would shoot groups as well as seasoned veterans. Try shooting a one hole group on a breezy gusty day.

You miss the point.

The purpose of a benchrest is to take the human element out of the equation, as in "field marksmanship"; as in real world.

Your body is part of the shooting platform in real-world shooting...improvised field positions, standing, prone, squat, fist, etc.,....

Shooting with a REST is not the same thing as bench rest shooting. After all (to quote Cooper), "If you can get steadier, get more steady; if you can get closer, get closer."

Bench rest shooting has VERY LITTLE to do with in-the-field marksmanship. It's about the rifle, and the load, NOT about the shooter. And calling the wind drift is only one part of a number of essential variables. That's why using a bench, unless you are sighting in, or checking a change in load, is a WASTE OF TIME AND AMMUNITION, insofar as practice goes.

Khornet
February 8, 2006, 07:14 AM
I think it is you who are missing the point. When all your competitors are using comparable equipment, the only residual variable is....the human element. Is it "harder" to shoot standing 3-inch 200 yard groups than it is to shoot 0.1" benched 200 yard groups? Assuredly not. And you surely don't mean that the high-power rifle competitor doesn't trick out his rifle until it looks like a space weapon, and measure every little variable about his handloads, and even wear special clothing when he shoots, right down to his boots and gloves? And that, when developing his handloads, he doesn't shoot from a bench?

I think you were trying to say that bench and target/field shooting are two different games, but you wound up saying that one is for real shooters and the other is for wimps.

dfaugh
February 8, 2006, 09:34 AM
I think testing from a bench, under near ideal conditions is important, I know it is for me...As mentioned, it eliminates alot of variables, so you can test the gun/ammo (and yourself as well, but maybe less so)...I want a gun to shoot as accurately as possible BECAUSE I know that in the field I won't be able to duplicate that accuracy level...But, knowing the gun is accurate(or how accurate it can be), gives you a boost in confidence, for one thing, and lets you judge what a "realistic" shot is gonna be in the field...

For example, knowing I can regularly shoot around an inch at 100 yards from the bench, means I'm comfortable shooting a crow at that distance from prone, with a rest...I WOULDN'T try shooting it offhand at that distance, because I know I've now exceeded the limits of me and the gun...But I probably would shoot offhand at 50 yards.

Wllm. Legrand
February 8, 2006, 11:37 PM
I think it is you who are missing the point. When all your competitors are using comparable equipment, the only residual variable is....the human element. Is it "harder" to shoot standing 3-inch 200 yard groups than it is to shoot 0.1" benched 200 yard groups? Assuredly not. And you surely don't mean that the high-power rifle competitor doesn't trick out his rifle until it looks like a space weapon, and measure every little variable about his handloads, and even wear special clothing when he shoots, right down to his boots and gloves? And that, when developing his handloads, he doesn't shoot from a bench?

I think you were trying to say that bench and target/field shooting are two different games, but you wound up saying that one is for real shooters and the other is for wimps.

One is based upon practical marksmanship and the other is NOT.

Marksmanship. MARKSMANSHIP!

Bench rest shooting is NOT about marksmanship. Different, yes...and it is not about doing what YOU can do with your gun, only about what a gun is possible under a tightly controlled set of parameters...but I repeat myself......

For that matter, shooting in service rifle matches (which is what I do on an irregular basis...) is not that much about it either, but is closer to the spirit of the goal. Fixed distances, specific positions, etc., are not what what encounters in the field. But it is closer than bench rest shooting. Neither is ISPC (acronym correct?) pistol shooting more than tantentially related to using the handgun as a defensive weapon.

They may be interesting SPORTS, but they lose something, some more than others, from the purpose of the exercise.

BTW, you might get an idea of your own skill by taking ONE shot, under pressure of time, an unknown distances, at a suitable target. That might give you some idea of how good a shooter you are. Maybe.

Benchrest? An interesting sport, but not real field marksmanship.

YodaVader
February 9, 2006, 01:53 AM
My real belief is, all that really matters in the end is that the shooter is enjoying herself or himself regardless of the shooting method they choose to employ. If they like to shoot off a bench and they have a good time doing it what is wrong with that? If they like to stand , sit , kneel or shoot from prone - more power to them. If their targets are cans or clumps of dirt and they never shoot a paper target in their life so what? As long as they are having fun who really cares?

It's not enough with all the negativity guns/gun owners receive from the media , many Hollywood actors and anti-gun politicians. It seems that fellow gun owners are the ones who are quickest to "put down" another shooter's type of gun , shooting style or "lack" of skill.

At the range we can all have a good time and share in enjoyment of shooting with fellow gun owners regardless of the shooting position that one chooses.

rangerruck
February 9, 2006, 03:42 AM
mine:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/mod60022.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/mod60019.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/mod60016.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/mod60013.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/mod60012.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/mod60010.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/mod60006.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/mod60005.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/mod60003.jpg
these are 100 yds groups verified by two range officers, with a marlin mod 60, molycoated bore, Barska 6.24.42 scope.

Chuck R.
February 9, 2006, 01:42 PM
I bought a Ballard Rifle made Winchester Low Wall in .22 with a 30” Douglas Air-Gauged match barrel. I had it built to mirror my BPCR Silhouette rifle in weight and balance.

At 50 yards it will hold under 1 MOA.

At 100 yards, off cross sticks (as shot in a match), using MVA tang sights and an aperture front sight, I can generally hold about 1.5-2MOA on a reduced size animal silhouette. These are 10 shot strings using Eley Standard. I’ve gotten some very good 1 MOA groups, but that was with very little variable wind. I find it extremely important to use a very sensitive windflag to catch the subtle changes.

Chuck

Khornet
February 9, 2006, 03:07 PM
WOW. Now THAT's a squirrel rifle.

tdb
February 9, 2006, 06:30 PM
Marlin 880SQ , Wolf Match . Tedhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/SQSHOOTER/04237c58.jpg

tdb
February 9, 2006, 06:33 PM
Rifle Marlin 88SQ , Tedhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/SQSHOOTER/000_0070.jpg

Rob1035
February 9, 2006, 07:03 PM
I'm happy with 1" groups at 25 yards from my bone stock 10/22, standing, with irons:cool:

some of these groups are incredible though!

xring44
February 9, 2006, 07:14 PM
This group shot with my Remington 541S with a 6.5X20 Leupold scope, computer challanged, photo of rifle to follow.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/xring/squirrelgungroup.jpg[/IMG

Rob1035
February 9, 2006, 07:21 PM
This group shot with my Remington 541S with a 6.5X20 Leupold scope, computer challanged, photo of rifle to follow.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/xring/squirrelgungroup.jpg

fixed your pic:cool:

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