[k_dawg]

How many workers must be slaughtered, before their employers are found culpable because they disarmed their employees of their basic human rights found in the 2nd amendment?

How many children must grow up without a father, or mother.. because we oppress the masses?

[medic_guns]

I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six. It is not illegal to carry where I work, though. I will make durn sure I go home tonight.:evil:

[neoncowboy]

Makes me really grateful that my employer allows (or, at least doesn't prohibit) carry on the premises. What a blessing!

[pcf]

It's simple math, figure out how much it cost to settle with an employee/employee's estate and lost profits due to criminal act, versus the cost to settle with the criminal/criminal's estate and lost profits due to employee's act of self defense.

So far, it's cheaper to settle with a injured employee or their estate than a criminal's. When dead employees cost more than dead criminals, carry at the work place will be allowed.

Simple math.

[Maxwell]

When dead employees cost more than dead criminals, carry at the work place will be allowed.

Fear of a successful civil suit works on small business, the fallout from bad press will do it better on a big one once you can rack up some points in the media.

Of course the employers will claim that they already provided ample security... in the form of an ADT doorbell or "paid witness" security guard. Things that obviously wont work vs an enraged killer, and should prove so with an effective court argument.

Maybe they can put this lawsuit-happy system to a good use for once.

[Standing Wolf]

When dead employees cost more than dead criminals, carry at the work place will be allowed.

Sad, but probably true.

Carry, anyway. Lives are a lot harder to replace than jobs.

[Desertdog]

Of course the employers will claim that they already provided ample security...
Once more they are proven wrong. :banghead:

[middy]

Are you saying that you can't prohibit visitors in your home from carrying a gun? Most workplaces are private property, so it amounts to the same thing.

I'm a constitutionalist, but it only applies to government. Applying its limitations to the private sector goes against the spirit in which Constitution was written.

That said, I think it's stupid to disarm employees.

[WT]

Well, OSHA requires that all employers provide a safe workplace for their employees. If an employee is murdered onsite, I guess OSHA could fine the employer $2,500 or so. Workman's Compensation to the late employee's survivors may throw in a few more dollars.

That said, isn't the Post Office exempt from OSHA requirements since it is a quasi-government organization? The Post Office has its own police force and some other postal employees carry weapons when they make their rounds.

[Maxwell]

Are you saying that you can't prohibit visitors in your home from carrying a gun?

When someones on your property and working for you, you are responsable for their safety.
It might not be the bosses fault if I racked up $5000 in debt from the local bookie... but I think it is his fault if he lets said bookie come in my office to gently alter the configuration of my kneecaps with a piece of plumbing.

In many states I can go and get a CCW permit easily if I can prove my life is in danger or if I have a high risk job. I think its a reasonable request that if you take away my gun at work, then you should substitute it with an adequate ammount of protection to insure my safety...

Now Im a very insecure fellow :uhoh:, Rent-a-cop and his airsoft revolver simply wont do. If I worked for the post office I'd want some blackwater thugs in bodyarmor and carrying machine guns to cover the door, and I wouldnt settle for less :cool:

[Baba Louie]

...because we oppress the masses?WE???
See, it's just death of the Peons that evoke no action. Whenever someone noteworthy is killed at work due to restrictions, someone in authority just places MORE restrictions on the survivors who OBEY rules and laws and such.
Them that don't obey... are now outlaws and thus scum of the earth, not worthy of the "good people in charge's" consideration, continued employment or to walk the streets free from official bondage.

THEY are NOT good little Peons.

So to answer your question, "How Many...?" When their combined deaths affect productivity and "the bottom line".

That or 1,234,567...

whichever comes first. :scrutiny:

[RealGun]

Are you saying that you can't prohibit visitors in your home from carrying a gun? Most workplaces are private property, so it amounts to the same thing.

Are you able to ask police officers to leave their guns outside? Why would they need to carry a gun throughout their careers and perhaps never have to use it? This double standard of self defense is at the core of this whole subject.

[MD_Willington]

Not sure, but that's why I sit near a window... If things get crazy I'm outta here...

MD

[TrekkieFromHell]

I work on a miltary base as a contractor. I wish I could carry, but since they randomly search me and my car every so often at the gate, it doesn't seem to be a good idea.


On an off the topic note, they searched me and my car for guns because I had some paper targets in the back of my station wagon. Go figure huh?