Why I like the 10mm


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Kitt
January 2, 2003, 11:32 PM
I started out my handgun life with the usual 38/357 and later on picked up a 45 acp then a 40 S&W and then I just had to get a 357 Sig. Life was good... then I decided the Para Ordnance P-16 Limited would get a new barrel.. a 10mm. Recoil is no big deal and man this thing will shoot! Being a reloader I'm just starting to try different powder/bullet combinations... but I am really impressed... So I ordered a S&W 610 revolver in 10mm and am looking a Glock 29 next... Life is good

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Arkady
January 2, 2003, 11:37 PM
I've been interested in the 10mm P16 conversion for a while...

Aside from awe, what have your impressions been? Reliability?

nvrquit
January 2, 2003, 11:40 PM
There are more of us than most would be willing to believe.

I'm sure that agtman, andabeer and the rest of the 10'ers will be posting in to welcome you aboard!

cheygriz
January 2, 2003, 11:44 PM
My friend, you have just discovered one of the great handgun cartridges of all time.

If you want some real sizzling loads, try Nosler 135 grainers and a healthy dab of HS-6 or AAC#7. A good solid all around load is 175 GR Winchester Silvertips over AAC#7 or 800X.

Beware of Glock barrels though!!!! The chambers are loose and sloppy, leading to swollen case heads.

I have a Glock model 20, which I dearly love, but it has been rebarrelled with a BarSto barrel. I know this is an added expense, but I love the big Glock so well that I think it's still a bargain even after having to replace the barrel.

Kitt
January 2, 2003, 11:45 PM
Arkady the 10mm shoots very flat and the loads I am working up using the 165 gr. Gold Dot HP with 12 grs of AA#7 are very impressive. Besides the 10mm barrel I added a 22lb. recoil spring and have had no problems. The Hornady 200 gr bullets are good for hunting and woods protection... 16 + 1 rounds of 10mm... sounds good to me.

Big Mike
January 3, 2003, 12:33 AM
Kitt,

Are there any other mods that need to be done other than the barrel? Extractor springs? The para mags hold the 10mm? Where are you getting the barrel? Jarvis? Barsto? I would like to hear more of the para conversion.

Mike

thisaway
January 3, 2003, 01:26 AM
"Welcome to my Web", said the Spider to the Fly...:evil:

stans
January 3, 2003, 09:01 AM
Converting a 1911 pattern gun chambered in 40 should not be much of a problem. New barrel or have the original barrel reamed and a heavier recoil spring are all that is required. I prefer a 22 pound spring and a CP shock buffer in my Delta Elite with full power loads.

Kitt
January 3, 2003, 03:59 PM
Big Mike,
I bought a new factory barrel on an auction for $70 and had it reamed out to 10mm for $35. Picked up a Wilson 22lb recoil spring and shock-buff and thats it. The factory mags work great and it shoots like a dream. Barsto, Ed Brown and others make the 10mm barrel to drop in the Para P-16 also. In my case it was money well spent.

agtman
January 3, 2003, 09:22 PM
Another 10mm fan.


:)

And from what I've been seeing across the various boards, the 10mm is winning more hearts and minds everyday. :cool:

Considering the gazillion testimonials scattered across the net touting the merits of this cartridge, the "information super highway" is the best marketing tool the 10mm Auto ever had.

More and more people are discovering it, asking about it, posting about it, discussing it, debating it and then finally finding a 10mm pistol and shooting it - which is usually the "deal" cincher.

For some, their first 10mm gun is going to be Dan Wesson's 1911-style "Razorback," being released this month. (Check out all the posts about it over on 1911.com).

" [Para P-16] In my case it was money well spent."


Yep, especially considering how easily a 10mm autoloader can go from shooting the soft-n-fluffy .40-level loads to the stuff so hot it's treading on the nuclear zone. No ballistic limitations, unlike its offspring, the .40S&W, which can't be hotrodded into 10mm territory without becoming a handgrenade.

Enjoy the h*ll out of this cartridge. :)

Sean Smith
January 3, 2003, 10:05 PM
10mm is a great cartridge. Probably about the most power you can put into an autoloader of practical size and still get a decent working lifespan. Capable of great accuracy, too.

denfoote
January 4, 2003, 01:07 AM
Slowly!!
My G29 is begining to win me over!!! :D

WESHOOT2
January 4, 2003, 06:55 AM
Still leaning on Ruger to convert KGP-141 into 6-shot moon-clip-fed 10mm.

I like it.

And in revolver, maybe we could get some 230-250g wide-meplat bullets (running at say 1200fps; ooooh, sectional density woodie).
And IPSC/(IDPA), too.

Screw the autos, gimme that Ruger :D

AndABeer
January 4, 2003, 08:53 AM
I need a carbine in this chambering. A lever gun would be cool but I guess I'll have to go with an AR upper or Mech Tech. A semi version of the MP-5/10 would rock after the mag ban sensets.

wun_8_seven
January 4, 2003, 08:11 PM
i love to see right thinking americans.

Kitt
January 4, 2003, 09:17 PM
I just picked up my S&W 610, green fiberoptic front sight and Jerry Miculek grips...man this is nice...very nice!

NordicG3K
January 4, 2003, 09:34 PM
Is this the thread for "true believers?":D

Be warned, one 10mm is never enough!

Tazz10m
January 4, 2003, 09:50 PM
Got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10...

:D

nvrquit
January 4, 2003, 10:38 PM
... made me buy a Para P14 in .40 S&W today. The little conversion gremlins were sitting on my shoulder and trying to talk me into it!

NordiG3K is absolutlely correct! I'm just not sure if the 10mm disease is bacterial, virual or associative/addiction(ala drugs, alchohol, etc.)?

Iggy
January 5, 2003, 12:34 AM
http://danwessonfirearms.com/razorback.htm

Hk Paul
January 5, 2003, 12:30 PM
The POWER!!!! :evil:

rmgunsmith
November 24, 2005, 01:03 PM
I have a Colt Delta Elite and a Smith & Wesson 610. I have installed custom springs, guide rod, and the SFS system from Cylinder & Slide. It is very accurate and a pleasure to shoot with full power 10mm loads.

I have performed a trigger job on the Smith & Wesson 610 and it shoots very accurately too.

The 10mm is the magnum of semi-auto handguns and is still in use by various law enforcement agencies today.

A great web site on the 10mm is: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~gnappi/

With handloads you can match or exceed the power of the .357 magnum.

Lennyjoe
November 24, 2005, 01:37 PM
Welcome to the 10MM club.

For plinking try Blue Dot and for monster loads look at 800X.

gunfan
November 24, 2005, 01:53 PM
I own 5, count them, five handguns chambered in the "mighty 10." You will love it!

Scott

shooter1
November 24, 2005, 07:58 PM
Bought a 10mm Witness in Wonder Finish a couple of years ago. Wow! What a shooter!
str1

Cosmoline
November 24, 2005, 08:04 PM
FYI--there's an article about cast bullet loads for the 10mm auto in the current "Handloader." Made me want to get a 10mm, but the $$ is still too high for me.

Ed
November 24, 2005, 10:37 PM
This is an old thread....More 10mm out there now. I load my own and am waiting patiently to scrape up enough funds to buy a 1076 I have seen hidden in a case in a gunstore.

12-34hom
November 24, 2005, 10:51 PM
I have a DW "Razorback" & just bought a Para P-16 - sent to Hunter Customs for his 10mm conversion package.

Had a Glock model 20 - sold it. nice weapon just not my cup of tea.

12-34hom.

Longbow
November 24, 2005, 11:13 PM
I've been interested in the 10mm P16 conversion for a while...

Aside from awe, what have your impressions been? Reliability?

Mine has been very reliable so far (200+ rds). My gunsmith used the original barrel for the coversion.

Mossyrock
November 25, 2005, 02:00 PM
I own 5, count them, five handguns chambered in the "mighty 10." You will love it!

Scott

Only five? Slacker. :D

Beren
November 25, 2005, 03:06 PM
You will not regret the S&W 1076. I sold mine during my "can't stand DA auto" phase, and I remember it as being a wonderful pistol. I can also recommend the Glock 20, but the 1076 was one of the most accurate "non-target" handguns I've ever fired.

jc2
November 25, 2005, 03:13 PM
The 1076 is my favourite 10mm. When I was packing an bottom feeder, it was pretty my constant companion. It's still my most often shot/carried autoloader.

cz75bdneos22
November 26, 2005, 12:16 AM
i'll get on the bandwagon:neener:
ever since i got my glock 20, i've found nirvana..:what:
this is the gun i should have bought first...i need no other!:D
after buying one of each caliber, different brands and types of guns...:eek:
i found the ONE! i would glady sell my other guns, if it came to it..:evil:
i'll just make do with my .22lr beretta neos and the Glock G20...15 rnd of 10mm. Ajua!! Viva Glock! Viva 10mm!!:D :neener: :p

Robert23fl
December 20, 2006, 10:30 PM
I Just purchased a Glock 20 but i have not shot it yet. I am kind of excited after reading all of the reviews for it. I hope i made a wise desicion. Does anyone else own a Glock 20?

Skywarp
December 20, 2006, 11:16 PM
I love my Glock 20. I want to get a KKM 6" barrel for it for some insane loads I've read about.


The stock barrel isnt bulging brass or being a pest to me so I'm happy.

Lennyjoe
December 21, 2006, 12:21 AM
Does anyone else own a Glock 20?

I do and I enjoy shooting it.

shooting4fun
December 21, 2006, 12:47 AM
G'day Lennyjoe, and et al.,

Yes, (I'm somewhat in your neighborhood, just to the southeast a bit) the G20 is a fun pistol. I've added to fun with a conversion barrel to allow me to safely run 40 SW for some cost savings when I play in those lost brass matches. I was fortunate that under 50 metres both barrels shoot to the same point of aim.

Running those full power 10mm rounds lets me play with the steel targets on the rifle range. Had one of the range masters ask if that was me hitting the 300 metre ram. Then he says that doesn't sound like a regular Glock! Yup! He had never even heard of a 10mm, so I showed him a 40SW along with the 10mm. He is now enlightened.

Merry Holidays to all! See ya out at the ranges sometime! Cheers!

Dollar An Hour
December 21, 2006, 01:08 AM
Any point in considering a 10mm if I don't handload? I'm thinking of picking up a G20 or G29... :cool:

roscoe
December 21, 2006, 01:23 AM
Check DoubleTap ammo for good selection and prices.

Robert23fl
December 21, 2006, 09:41 AM
One more quick question. I bought CCI 10mm Blazer ammo (200gr) today and was wonder if that is a good ammo to shot through my Glock 20. Will it damage my barrel or anything.

Skywarp
December 21, 2006, 10:01 AM
the 200 Gr blaser load is a pretty light load and is jacketed so youre good to go.

Lennyjoe
December 21, 2006, 10:04 AM
CCI should be fine since it's not loaded too hot.

There is plenty of 10MM ammo available on the web. As for local gun shops, not too much except for Winchester Silvertips, CCI ammo and maybe UMC but its hard to find since not too many shops stock it.

The .40 is a fine round but I reload and love the 10MM too much to insult my G20 with a .40 cal barrel.;)

BTW, my 1st gun of 2007 is going to be a G29.

Kitt
December 21, 2006, 04:32 PM
Since I started this thread I need to add I just bought a Dan Wesson CBOB 10mm and for the money its a custom pistol at 1/3 the price...now I've got my eye on a Glock 20...stayed tuned...;)

Lennyjoe
December 21, 2006, 09:22 PM
I'm jealous!

Black Snowman
December 21, 2006, 09:28 PM
I picked up a G20 not long ago, now I'm eyeing the MechTech 10mm upper for it :evil:

DC3-CVN-72
December 21, 2006, 11:13 PM
I have done alot of research on the 10mm. and am intreged by it, but the cost kept me away. So one day I bought a S&W 1006 used like new for $350.00. I only have experiance with WINCHESTER 10mm. 175 GR. SILVERTIP HP. and CCI BLAZER 10mm. 200 GR. TMJ. I almost never buy new guns, but when I heard that Ruger was going to discontinue the REDHAWK in .45 COLT I bought one in stainless with a 5.5 in. bbl. I bought both of the guns to force myself into reloading. I have been interested in reloading for a long time but have been a little intimadated by it, because when I do something I want to know most everything about it befor I start, and with reloading there is so much information and time involved in working up different loads that I have stayed away because of the time involved, I just don't have enough of it. To solve this problem I made a promise to myself to get set up for reloading before I buy another gun. I will keep this promise, I'm just not shure how long it will take me.

Greg8098
December 22, 2006, 08:33 AM
Some people say that all of us 10mm fans are crazy. Some say that the 10mm is a jack of all trades and a master of none. Some say that the 10 is dead :scrutiny: . If 10mm is dead, then Glock is dead. Facts are facts. Yes the 10mm is a rare bird compared to the "mainstream calibers", but it is not impossible to find. The Glock 20 is about the only hangun ( of reasonable size and weight ) that can seriously compete with the .357 Desert Eagle, in terms of firepower. Not saying that the Glock 20 is the best 10mm, but it is the only one besides the 29 that I have had any experience with. Also the fact is that full power 10 ammo roughly equates to low to mid - range .41 magnum specs ( factory ammo ). Pack in 15+1 into a semi-auto, it's like the peanut butter and chocolate of handgunning :cool: .

Cybrludite
December 22, 2006, 09:15 AM
I'm thinking of putting a 10mm Witness on layaway just after I finish paying off my RIA 1911 in .38 Super. I've heard the stock recoil spring is a bit light for the chambering. Any suggestions as to how heavy a Wolff recoil spring I should replace the stock one with?

SFvet
December 22, 2006, 10:28 PM
Maximum ballistic performance and maximum penetrative power. The ultimate force. (Glock ges. M.b.h., 2006)

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