I have maintained that Multiculturalism programs on campus are only political indoctrination programs that really take the form of a religion. Then I read a book that stated that Multiculturalism is the code word for Anti-Americanism. Methinks I am not alone in my view.
If I claim that Multiculturalism is really a religion I call Antikulturalism complete with all the pagan religious mumbo-jumbo, chants, dogma and rage at facts, truth and logic, am I right or wrong?
I sure would like to hear a few views. I would appreciate factual and logical arguments, comments or stories to back up your views. [Note: I'm talking about religion not faith. Two different things.]
If we decide that Antik. constitutes a religion, is the state advocacy of such a thing on college campuses a violation of the first amendment?
If you think students are being hurt by Antik., what should be done about it?
If it's proven to be great stuff, what do we do to get more of it?
I'd like to see some personal stories that relate perposterous incidents regarding Antik. as well as stories that show positive and beautiful and fulfilling things about it.
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January 2, 2003, 10:58 PM
" Then I read a book that stated that Multiculturalism is the code word for Anti-Americanism "
This sure seems true these days given the apparent agenda of the multiculturalism proponents, eh? :scrutiny:
The favorite strategy of the left:
Multiculturalism = Divide and Conquer
January 2, 2003, 11:06 PM
There is only one culture in the U.S.A. and that is American culture. GHo to some other country and give them a hyphenated version of your background but you are still an American to them!
January 2, 2003, 11:28 PM
Leftist so-called "multi-culturalism" is to America as the A.I.D.S. virus is to health.
January 3, 2003, 12:05 AM
For alot of good reading on "multiculturalism" might I suggest:
Why Multiculturalists Hate America
By Dan Flynn
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 23, 2002
College course selection catalogues for the current academic year list such "multicultural" courses as Penn's "American Racism," Harvard's "Ebonics: Myths and Facts," and UMass-Amherst's "The Social Construction of Whiteness and Women," which centers "primarily on the U.S." Lest any student feel shanghaied by the compulsory activism in this last course, the class description notes: "Students work in groups to design and implement activist projects."
The common denominator of such "multicultural" courses is a lack of truth in advertising. Their emphasis is monocultural, not multicultural. That is to say that the focus is exclusively on bemoaning some aspect of Western society. Ostensibly, multiculturalism celebrates overlooked aspects of foreign cultures. In practice, it serves as a propaganda tool of the domestic Left to denigrate America and the West.
Real multiculturalism-an honest look at societies outside our own-would reveal precisely what campus multiculturalists attempt to hide: the fact that some cultures are better than others. This is why the American Left ignores other cultures, and instead focuses a jaundiced eye upon America. Remarkably, this endeavor is labeled "multiculturalism." In my new book, Why the Left Hates America: Exposing the Lies That Have Obscured Our Nation's Greatness, I examine other cultures in detail. What's revealed doesn't quite fit with the Left's ideological preconceptions about foreign societies.
So what is it that multiculturalists seek to hide about foreign cultures?
The horrible treatment of women
The United Nations estimates that between 100 and 150 million living African women have undergone female genital mutilation. Forced abortions in China primarily target females. For every 100 baby girls that are born in China, 117 baby boys are born. Of the more than 2,100 rapes reported in Bangladesh in 2000, a mere 63 resulted in criminal convictions. In most Middle Eastern nations, a woman can't travel outside of her homeland without permission from her closest male relative, leniency is awarded those partaking in "honor killings," and rape is treated as a joke. In India, thousands of women are murdered every year because of dowry disputes.
A lack of democracy
Self-government, which is almost universal in the West, is essentially a novelty in the rest of the world. No Arab country boasts a republican form of government. Of the more than fifty African nations, not even a dozen could legitimately be described as democracies. Nearly two billion people in the Far East have no say in their government's leaders.
The idea that the citizens of other nations equally possess the free speech rights possessed by every American is untrue and dangerous. Kuwait bans speech that "affects the value of the national currency," "spreads dissension among the populace," or "creates hatred." Azerbaijan's Law on Mass Media bars coverage that "insults the honour and dignity of the state and the Azerbaijani people" or "is contrary to the national interest." In Togo, people who "offend the honor, dignity or esteem" of government officials are subject to imprisonment. Zimbabwe bans subversive statements and views that threaten "interest of defense, public safety, public order, state economic interests, public morality, and public health." Even many European countries lack the safeguards against infringements on freedom of speech.
Race-based slavery persists in Sudan, Mauritania, and other parts of Africa. Zimbabwe's campaign of land expropriation targeting white farmers has led to numerous murders and the public theft of private wealth. For much of the last decade, ethnic Eritreans living in Ethiopia were imprisoned in concentration camps. The widely held notion on the Left that America is somehow unique in having racial problems strikes one as preposterous when one takes an honest look at the world around us.
So why do multiculturalists ignore other cultures in favor of bemoaning aspects of America that they despise? The answer is obvious when one discovers the true nature of many foreign societies. A sensible person can't encounter forced abortions, race-based land expropriations, or apostasy executions and embrace the mantra that "all cultures are equal." All cultures are not equal. The only way to reconcile this multiculturalist slogan with the reality of life in non-Western cultures is to lie about other cultures or to ignore them entirely.
Embracing the ideology of multiculturalism and having a multicultural outlook are incongruous ideals. The latter critically examines other cultures while the former encourages an uncritical embrace of anything foreign.
The real study of foreign cultures, ironically enough, serves as the greatest threat to multiculturalism. Quite clearly, the academics offering-up such monocultural "multicultural" courses as "American Racism" and "Ebonics: Myths and Facts" know this truth all too well.
Daniel J. Flynn is the executive director of Accuracy in Academia and author of the newly released, Why the Left Hates America: Exposing the Lies That Have Obscured Our Nation’s Greatness.
For more just go to the frontpagemagazine.com home page and type "multiculturalism' into search.:)
January 3, 2003, 02:53 AM
There is only one culture in the U.S.A. and that is American culture.Well, not quite. Our country's singular great strength is - not "diversity" - liberty. That liberty, particularly in context of decentralized political power, allows for a great deal of differences in lifestyles, religion, speech, pop culture and so forth.
To that extent, we are a society of many cultures and influences. We need not have a common culture, merely a common love of liberties.
GHo to some other country and give them a hyphenated version of your background but you are still an American to them!Yes and no. A light skinned African-American shows up in West Africa, and a native would call him "white" or "American." An Asian-American shows up in, say, Indonesia, he gets asked "are you Chinese?"
Some foreigners think of an "American" as a person of European appearance living in the US. They often do not think of non-European-stock Americans as "real" Americans - much the way some Americans used to think back in the 50's. When overseas, sometimes it is really amazing how many foreigners do not realize just how ethnically diverse the US is today.
Many (particularly the less educated) derive their views of the US from popular media (movies and TV shows) and seem to see Americans of European stock as "normal" Americans, those of African descent as mostly athletes and entertainers and those of Latin American or Asian descent as little more than coolies or dutiful sidekicks (or comical villains). It's really amazing just how little many foreigners know about this country...
January 3, 2003, 04:02 AM
I have maintained that Multiculturalism programs on campus are only political indoctrination programs that really take the form of a religion.I have one close brush with the sort of brain-dead stuff you are describing that I will relate.
When I was on the Executive Board of our local Community (read that Commie) Council, I made the grave mistake of attending the first meeting of the newly formed "Diversity" sub-committee.
It started out as a feel-good love fest, and each person was expected to tell a story about their first "awareness" of the "need" for "cultural sensitivity training". :rolleyes:
Long story short, the Shaman's Storytelling Stick got to one of the co-founders of this stooge-fest disguised as a sub-committee; it was then that I had to don my emergency hip-boots.
The young lady in question had recently received her advanced education (Major in underwater basket-weaving, minor in anthropology, or some other such drivel) and she began to regale us with a tale from those halcyon days that she spent in the Ivory Towers of Knowledge...ahh! Can't you just smell the air? So rarified! So refined! But I digress.
She said that the turning point in her life came when her Anthropo Prof spent the bulk of the class describing African-American, Asian-American, blahblahblah-American sub-cultures in the United States.
Then, in the fashion of a true intellectual giant, he sprang this one on the class: "Describe and discuss for me the White culture in America!" As the young lady was telling her tale, she was breaking into tears. She said that she had also cried on the day that the Prof presented her with this particular Gordian Knot, because all she could think of to describe White culture was nice clothes, cell-phones, and the friggin' mall!!!!
It never occurred to her, or her fellow dimwits to challenge the professor's BS as racist and false on its face! It didn't occur to her that there are "White people" of every size, shape, and description throughout this country that do not, and pray God never will, share her pathetic and inane sensibilities that she considers her "culture"
When I asked why not one person in her class brought up the false premise of the professor's question, she looked at me like I was from outer-space.
Since my point of view was not shared by anyone else in the committee, it was decided that I was threat to the lock-step unity that is true diversity, and not long after that, I was no longer welcome.
Religion, Cult, Sheer Stupidity x a goggle to the nth degree
Whatever we choose to call it, it is just crap.
Bahadur has it exactly right. Liberty is the be all of this country. If we lose it, it will be the end all.
January 3, 2003, 04:41 AM
Being an older returning student, born and bred in the South, and American, I see/hear a lot of stuff that doesn't belong.
I go to class ,stick with like-minded, stick to my guns as they say.
Exchange student not sure if parents were alive when bombings hit her homeland: " you Americans are giving into too much and not taking of business, the other Culture attacking my home, wanted us to change, we didn't want to, they took our registered guns, now they are bombing my homeland".
Took that gal shooting I did. 'bout sums up the way I feel.
January 3, 2003, 07:31 AM
How about feel good racism against Americans, particularly white Americans?
January 3, 2003, 07:34 AM
She said that she had also cried on the day that the Prof presented her with this particular Gordian Knot, because all she could think of to describe White culture was nice clothes, cell-phones, and the friggin' mall!!!!Classic. Weavers of tales tell us more about themselves than about the true state of the the subjects of their tales.
Someone should have told the good professor and his well-clad, cell phone-wielding, mall-frequenting protege that "white" is not a "race." Or for that matter, the notion of "race" in terms of skin color is a grossly unscientific vestige of 19th Century racial (racist) theories.
There is a world of genetic, cultural and linguistic difference between, say, a Swede and a Sicilian - yet according to the outdated concept of "race," they are both "white." It's just very sad that this misconception not only goes on, but has been officially indoctrinated by the US government.
January 3, 2003, 10:00 PM
"a religion I call Antikulturalism complete with all the pagan religious mumbo-jumbo"
Now, let's not be bagging on the pagans. You might be amazed to discover that some members of this very board follow the various pagan paths.;)
January 3, 2003, 10:15 PM
"An Asian-American shows up in, say, Indonesia, he gets asked "are you Chinese?"
That might be the case if he has not opened his mouth and said something. Once that occurs he will be pegged as an American.
January 3, 2003, 10:41 PM
Diversity and multiculturalism is a good thing. The liberals think it just comes down to how someone looks, and their appreciation of your culture is only skin-deep, literally.
There's a LOT more to me, Albert, Jesse H, etc. than yellow skin and slanty eyes. Liberal politicians and public administrators value us only because we are racial minority.
And I don't have anything against being a Hyphenated-American. If we didn't have Scottish/Irish-American, we wouldn't have bluegrass, if we didn't have African-American, we wouldn't have banjos and the blues, if we didn't have French-Canadian-Americans, we wouldn't have Cajun music or the M1 Garand.
I'm proud of being a Chinese-American because it beats being a Chinese-Chinese living as a slave in a socialist state--even if they have recently starting to take a liking to money and capitalism, they still ignore human rights. I live MUCH better as a Chinese-American than being...Chinese.
America (IMO at least) is the greatest country not only because of our freedoms, but because we get the best ideas from around the world and accept them into our society if they work. Multiculturalism MADE America.
For the record, I am Christian first, American second, and Chinese third.
January 3, 2003, 11:52 PM
You might find this interesting, or not. Someone suggested some T-shirt slogans that come to ming reading this thread:
"No Blood For Liberation!"
"Opposition to Torture is Racism!"
"Totalitarianism Is Good For Children And Other Living Things!"
"Freedom Of Expression For White Americans - YES, For Brown Iraqis - NO!"
"No More Cultural Imperialism - Stop Liberty At OUR Borders!"
I like that last one.
January 4, 2003, 12:25 AM
January 4, 2003, 07:33 AM
That might be the case if he has not opened his mouth and said something. Once that occurs he will be pegged as an American.True enough in Jakarta. Not so in Kalimantan (Indonesian Borneo).
I'm proud of being a Chinese-American because it beats being a Chinese-Chinese living as a slave in a socialist state...:)
But practically anything beats being "a slave in the socialist state." I would think that what makes you proud of being an American, one of any ethnic origin, has more to do with the traits of America rather those of whence your originate. Afterall, being French is probably better than being "a slave in a socialist state," but would you be as proud of being a French as of being an American? My guess is not.
America (IMO at least) is the greatest country not only because of our freedoms, but because we get the best ideas from around the world and accept them into our society if they work. Multiculturalism MADE America.I must disagree. Liberty is what makes "multiculturalism" possible in the first place. We are able the entertain "the best ideas from around the world and accept them" as you put it, because we have liberty, which allows choice.
The Soviet Union had an official "multiculturalism" of sorts where ethnic "equality" was to be maintained, but in view of its totalitarian character and absence of liberty, it was nothing more than a sad facade.
January 4, 2003, 02:21 PM
Wow! I didn't know that so many gave a damn!!
And skunkabilly. I like that Chinese-Chinese thing. And what a performance a "foaming Chinese Hillbilly" must be able to put on.
I didn't mean to torque off any real-life pagans. Nor am I in the business of torquing off the faithful of any faith. Notice I compared Multiculturalism to religion. It's a religion designed to undermine one's faith in God, country and self. Religion and faith do not necessarily track one another.
The small letter version of diversity and multiculturalism is certainly most welcome here in America. It is what has made us great. The capitalized versions of Multiculturalism and Diversity are excuses to actually KILL diversity and multiculturalism. Big "M" and big "D" will fade and die when little "m" and little "d" are allowed free expression again.
I believe that if a school or government has any office with the word "culture" or "cultural" or "diversity" as a part of its title and they are doing anything other than the passive study of one or more actual cultures, they are in the business of political indoctrination. The culture is something that grows. It is not something than can be manipulated. Manipulating the culture is what the Nazis did during the Nazification of Germany years ago. Now we are lettingg our colleges and universities do it here.
Thanks for the replies. Keep them coming. I know more now than I did yesterday.
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