Bush is Insane


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WillBrayJr
February 6, 2006, 01:18 PM
Now he's calling for a 2.77 trillion budget for his "War on terrorism". If Congress approves of this, there goes Medicare, Medicaid, and SSI. Love this country with all my heart because this is were I was born. If Bush's rediculous budget gets approved I'm packing up and moving to a different country until we get a president that will get this country back on track:mad:

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Henry Bowman
February 6, 2006, 01:24 PM
Buh-Bye.

Between War on Terrorism (national defense) and various welfare, health care services/insurance, and retirement/disability plans, which is authorized to the federal government by the Constitution?

shermacman
February 6, 2006, 01:26 PM
See ya.
By the way, it is spelled "ridiculous". Of course, it will be spelled differently in what ever country you move to.

WillBrayJr
February 6, 2006, 01:28 PM
Bush needs to stop worry about fixing other country's problems and worry about our own problems. If I get banned for speaking the truth and that really shows you just how much things are messed up:mad:

Alex45ACP
February 6, 2006, 01:30 PM
If you want things to be different, you have to start doing something different.

www.LP.org

HankB
February 6, 2006, 01:34 PM
. . . until we get a president that will get this country back on trackI suspect you'll have a long wait for another Teddy Roosevelt or even a Ronald Reagan . . . :( . . . I'm packing up and moving to a different country . . . Let us know where you end up; you may have to search pretty hard for a better alternative, seeing as the USA would be the worst country in the world . . . except for all the rest.

WillBrayJr
February 6, 2006, 01:37 PM
I never said the USA was the worst country. I said Bush is insane. By the way I wen't through the trouble for you softies and asked to be banned by a moderator of this forum.

kfranz
February 6, 2006, 01:44 PM
Now he's calling for a 2.77 trillion budget for his "War on terrorism". If Congress approves of this, there goes Medicare, Medicaid, and SSI. Love this country with all my heart because this is were I was born. If Bush's rediculous budget gets approved I'm packing up and moving to a different country until we get a president that will get this country back on track:mad:

Yeah, 'cause it's the presidents job to keep the country on track..... :confused:

Read the constitution. If your feeling especially plucky, hit some of the other documents that the "founders" wrote. Report back your findings. Just to point you in the correct direction, and to make sure you get off on the right foot, George Washington was not the first president

kfranz
February 6, 2006, 01:45 PM
I never said the USA was the worst country. I said Bush is insane. By the way I wen't through the trouble for you softies and asked to be banned by a moderator of this forum.

That's just stupid talk there. No need for you to be banned, you could just walk away. Of course, that'd not fit your martyr fantasy near as well as the the thought that "I got banned 'cause I talked so tough"

shermacman
February 6, 2006, 01:50 PM
By the way I wen't through the trouble for you softies and asked to be banned by a moderator of this forum.
By the way, it is spelled "went". Of course, it will be spelled differently in what ever country you move to.

ball3006
February 6, 2006, 01:50 PM
Gore or Kerry? And why?????????? Remember, wishing for someone else that has no prayer of ever getting elected, is not an option........chris3

WillBrayJr
February 6, 2006, 01:51 PM
That's just stupid talk there. No need for you to be banned, you could just walk away. Of course, that'd not fit your martyr fantasy near as well as the the thought that "I got banned 'cause I talked so tough"


I talked so tough has nothing to do with it. I wen't through the trouble so others didn't have to. If you're looking for the William Bray with a massive ego that would be my father who is on the run from the law.

Old Dog
February 6, 2006, 01:52 PM
If Bush's rediculous budget gets approved I'm packing up and moving to a different country until we get a president that will get this country back on track
Have a safe trip. Say hi to Alex and Barbra, the Dixie Chicks, and all the celebs who moved out of the country after the election ...

Parlez-vous Francais? You'll need to know another language ...

P.S. Edit your thread title, man. That crap is getting so tiresome.

kfranz
February 6, 2006, 01:54 PM
I talked so tough has nothing to do with it. I wen't through the trouble so others didn't have to. If you're looking for the William Bray with a massive ego that would be my father who is on the run from the law.

Why did you ask to be banned? Why didn't you just quit of your own choice? Your father has nothing to do with this.

WillBrayJr
February 6, 2006, 01:55 PM
By the way, it is spelled "went". Of course, it will be spelled differently in what ever country you move to.

Thats how I've always spelled wen't and never got that word wrong on any test.:neener:

WillBrayJr
February 6, 2006, 01:58 PM
Why did you ask to be banned? Why didn't you just quit of your own choice? Your father has nothing to do with this.

Why did I asked to be banned. Some of the other members feel offended by what I said and were implying that I was going to be banned anyway.

Camp David
February 6, 2006, 01:58 PM
Now he's calling for a 2.77 trillion budget for his "War on terrorism"...

More precision needed in your description... actually it is a total budget and it "...would also make his first-term tax cuts permanent, at a cost of $1.4 trillion over 10 years, and still achieve his goal of cutting the deficit in half by 2009..." And among those that doubt Bush's conservative credentials in making the government smaller, this budget reduces or curtails "141 government programs that Bush sought to sharply reduce or eliminate entirely."

Read: http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/06/budget.ap/index.html

.45Guy
February 6, 2006, 02:01 PM
I'm packing up and moving to a different country until we get a president that will get this country back on track

In the wise words of Homer Simpson, "Talking won't get you there!"

GoRon
February 6, 2006, 02:05 PM
You would be better off sticking around and reading other peoples point of view about things.

As you discuss these serious topics with other people who hold different views you will find that where you are right your argument becomes much stronger. Where you are wrong you may have to rethink what you believe.

IIRC you are a young guy, you should stick around and pick up some of the wisdom available from the members here, not only on gun related topics but life in general.

Part of the reason the democrats are failing so miserably is they take a simular approach as you. They demonize and belittle the President but offer little to no alternative solutions.

Bartholomew Roberts
February 6, 2006, 02:09 PM
If I get banned for speaking the truth and that really shows you just how much things are messed up:mad:

Whether you are speaking the truth is for the reader to determine. However, I think it would be pretty clear from even a passing read of the L&P forum that criticizing the President is not a banning offense around here.

Since you are the only one to bring up the subject of a ban so far, I think all this shows so far is a talent for drama/desire for martyrdom.

Why did I asked to be banned. Some of the other members feel offended by what I said and were implying that I was going to be banned anyway.

Not in this thread they weren't... in any case, as I mentioned earlier there are literally thousands of instances of people criticizing the President (and even supporting it with facts and discussion vice emotional outcry) and not being banned. Why would you suddenly think you warranted the attention?

If you don't want to be be here, don't visit.

WT
February 6, 2006, 02:09 PM
Bush only wants to spend $560 billion on the military. That's only 20% of his total $2.77 trillion budget proposal. Still, its way more than what the entire rest of the world is spending on their militaries.

Anyway, Bush hopes to cut $107 billion from social programs that feed poor young children and destitute old people. Why not? They probably don't vote Republican anyway.

Let me go back to my basic Spanish language lessons now ........ When they rename Knoxville, how will it be spelled?

Correia
February 6, 2006, 02:11 PM
Good fricking hell... You don't ask to get banned, and then keep posting.

JUST WALK THE HELL AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER.

Give me a break. And I am a Moderator, and this gets the award for stupidest post I've seen this week. Get over your martyr syndrome and move on with life.

Colt
February 6, 2006, 02:15 PM
Anyway, Bush hopes to cut $107 billion from social programs that feed poor young children and destitute old people.

You wish. The fact is, there are thousands of worthless "feel good" programs out there that do little more than provide jobs for government social workers while breeding a fresh generation of government dependents. All this at the expense of those actually working and paying taxes.

Cut the fat, I say.

hillbilly
February 6, 2006, 02:15 PM
When you finally do move to some other country, let me know, and I'll come pick up all your guns and keep them safe while you stay in that other country.

Hope to hear from you soon......

hillbilly

middy
February 6, 2006, 02:17 PM
Why not? They probably don't vote Republican anyway.
Why not? Because that's not the federal government's job. At least, it was never intended to be. Just because FDR and LBJ wanted it that way doesn't make it the right thing to do.

fisherman66
February 6, 2006, 02:22 PM
Yeah, 'cause it's the presidents job to keep the country on track..... :uhoh:


Why the irony? I suppose I'd stop short of saying it's his responsibility, but it's certainly his agenda.

I can't help but think that Bush doesn't really seem like a "R" at heart. Spending is up a bunch and don't tell me that personal freedoms (less gov.) has improved.:scrutiny:

Waitone
February 6, 2006, 02:33 PM
I hate to interfere with logic and reason, but a substantial portion of the budget in entitlements meaning rate of increase is set by statute. The president has no authority to change it other than sponsor legislation which changes budget factors. IIRC something like 2/3's of the budget is literally beyond control.

Now if you want to bust Bush, bust him on the discretionary portion of the budget, you know, things like defense and intelligence. You can also bust him for not precipitating a constitution confrontation by exercising a line item veto. Bust him for not pushing the issue to the courts.

I return you to your original rant.

cbsbyte
February 6, 2006, 02:34 PM
This post is a classic example of a Troll. It offers no intelligent insight or discussion.

scottgun
February 6, 2006, 02:46 PM
But it does illustrate the delusional hatred that many Democrats often display. :neener:

MechAg94
February 6, 2006, 02:48 PM
Anyway, Bush hopes to cut $107 billion from social programs that feed poor young children and destitute old people. Why not? They probably don't vote Republican anyway.
Some of us just don't think it is the govt's job to feed poor children and destitute old people. That is what charity is for. But then since the govt is solving the problem, why make charitable contributions at all. That is the kind of emotional thinking that got us to this budget situation in the first place.

atblis
February 6, 2006, 02:49 PM
I keep running across former Bush supporters. They seem rather sad that things are going the way they are. I can't even bring myself to make fun of them.

Message boards would be extremely boring if everbody agreed, and there were no trollish posts.

MechAg94
February 6, 2006, 02:50 PM
The original poster really should work on his knowledge of the difference between facts and opinion. That might help him define what "truth" is a little better.

BTW, has anyone seen a break down of the budget and what the major categories are?

JohnBT
February 6, 2006, 02:52 PM
"I keep running across former Bush supporters..."

I keep running across Gore and Kerry supporters who don't have anything better to do than make fun of the President and his supporters - current or former.

John

bogie
February 6, 2006, 03:11 PM
Guys, I noticed something over the weekend.

The "Bush is Evil" posts drop WAY off outside the "work week." Pretty much completely off the radar.

I wonder why that is... I'm not paranoid... Much...

billwiese
February 6, 2006, 03:15 PM
Now he's calling for a 2.77 trillion budget for his "War on terrorism". If Congress approves of this, there goes Medicare, Medicaid, and SSI. Love this country with all my heart because this is were I was born. If Bush's rediculous budget gets approved I'm packing up and moving to a different country until we get a president that will get this country back on track:mad:

What's wrong with not having Medicare, SSI, etc?

I pay for my insurance. You can pay for yours. Don't ride on my back.

That's just socialism. Kill it.


Bill Wiese
San Jose

WillBrayJr
February 6, 2006, 03:38 PM
What's wrong with not having medicare, SSI and medicaid? You got alot of nerve asking that. Without medicare most of the elderly wouldn't be able to afford their meds. Without medicaid youger people like me wouldn't be able to afford meds. Out of pocket cost for my meds is $750.00+ a month. Without SSI I would be able to afford meds and a place of my own. Being out on my own is a major step in recovery. Without a job I wouldn't have any insurance. Do you realize that potential employers look at your medical history. When they see what I'm diagnosed with they're not going to hire me. I hope to start a small business someday which I need a job to start saving. In order to get a real job I need to be clean of all mental illnesses.

fisherman66
February 6, 2006, 03:42 PM
I didn't know you could own a gun if you have been diagnoised with a mental illness.

This is the strangest thread I have read.

Henry Bowman
February 6, 2006, 03:48 PM
Now that Will, Jr. has given us the punch line, can we just lock this thread?

scottgun
February 6, 2006, 03:49 PM
So Bush really isn't the one who is insane.

one-shot-one
February 6, 2006, 03:55 PM
that baldwin is looking for a roommate, oh wait he didn't actualy leave either.:neener:
ps. ibtl.

Biker
February 6, 2006, 04:00 PM
that baldwin is looking for a roommate, oh wait he didn't actualy leave either.:neener:
ps. ibtl.
IBTL? You should be ashamed...
;)
Biker

MechAg94
February 6, 2006, 04:11 PM
What's wrong with not having medicare, SSI and medicaid? You got alot of nerve asking that. Without medicare most of the elderly wouldn't be able to afford their meds. Without medicaid youger people like me wouldn't be able to afford meds. Out of pocket cost for my meds is $750.00+ a month. Without SSI I would be able to afford meds and a place of my own. Being out on my own is a major step in recovery. Without a job I wouldn't have any insurance. Do you realize that potential employers look at your medical history. When they see what I'm diagnosed with they're not going to hire me. I hope to start a small business someday which I need a job to start saving. In order to get a real job I need to be clean of all mental illnesses.

So, you are complaining about the large budget, then turning around and saying what a great thing the govt is doing by spending all that money to help you. Isn't that where this big govt stuff started?

Personally, I think if the govt truly only helped people like you, those programs wouldn't be near as big as they are.

I remember on a radio show, they were talking about the FDA reclassifying an acid reflux drug as over the counter instead of prescription. This lady called in and complained that her insurance would no longer pay for it now that it was over the counter (only about 50 bucks a month). The radio host asked her if she had cable TV. Pointed out that she 1) refused to make sacrifices herself and 2) refused to watch her diet to avoid spending the money at all. She just wanted someone else to pay for it.

I am the opposite. I have had employer provided health insurance for years. I haven't used a 10th of the money I have theoretically paid in. Of course, my company pays medical costs directly rather than buying a full blown group policy.

Correia
February 6, 2006, 04:12 PM
No, Will, you have a lot of nerve shaking him down for his hard earned money to pay for your mental problems. I missed that part of the Constitution.

Besides, I thought you were going to quit posting?

This piece of garbage is locked.

Hopefully whichever Mod you asked to ban you will hurry up and fulfill your wishes. If not, send me a PM, I've got no problem doing it, but I would hate to duplicate the effort. :)

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