Next purchase: #4 SMLE vs. M38 M-N


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seeker_two
February 6, 2006, 01:55 PM
I'm thinking about getting a good milsurp rifle to keep as an iron-sight, lightweight "fightin' carbine" and occasional brush-hunting rifle. I already have a sporterized, scoped SMLE #1Mk III*, and I want my next rifle to stay as close to stock as possible. Plus, since I already handload for this rifle, I want to use as many similar components (.310-.312" bullets, powder, primers) as possible. So I've narrowed my choices down to these two...

Points of interest....

#4 SMLE:

Already familiar w/ its operations.
Already load this caliber.
10-round capacity vs. 5 rounds.
Great sight system (esp. w/ the ladder-type adjustable peep).
Bolt already turned down (if I ever decide to scope)
Butter-smooth action.
Factory hunting soft-points readily available in most areas.


M-38:

Shorter & lighter than SMLE.
Non-detachable mag = no mag to lose.
Can use same components as SMLE (except cases, of course).
Stronger action than SMLE.
Less expensive than SMLE.
Inexpensive ammo available for days I don't want to reload.
I don't have one yet... :D

So, which should I choose?....

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Ian
February 6, 2006, 02:15 PM
The Enfield. The sight are better, the trigger will almost certainly be better, it'll load from clips more easily, and the action is smoother and way faster to operate.

I have a No4 Enfield, and there's no way I would swap it for an M38.

Cosmoline
February 6, 2006, 03:55 PM
Most of the M-38's out there saw the rough end of WWII and got counterbored and had their rifling re-cut to a wider bore. They don't tend to be anywhere near as accurate as the mint M-44's and I wouldn't get one without being able to hand inspect it first.

I'd suggest grabbing a Polish M-44 if you want a Mosin carbine.

Hazwaste
February 6, 2006, 04:00 PM
Ammo's much cheaper.

DougW
February 6, 2006, 10:39 PM
#4mk1's for me. Actually, any Enfield will work for me.

M.E.Eldridge
February 6, 2006, 10:52 PM
Get both. They are cheap enough. Failing that I would buy the M38 or preferably, an M44. Mind this though, surplus ammo for the M44 has a stout kick to it, much more than any Enfield rifle I have shot(including my No.4).For hunting I don't think you would have to worry, there will be too much adrenaline to feel it or at least that's what happens to me when I shoot 3" deer slugs or 3 1/2" shells from a 12 gauge.

cslinger
February 6, 2006, 10:55 PM
No question, the Enfield is the better gun by far and will most certainly be more fun to shoot. The action is just ohhh so right. It's kind of like a really good transmission. The Mosin, while I own one and enjoy, is much more shall we say utilitarian. :scrutiny:

swingset
February 7, 2006, 03:07 AM
This is akin to choosing an ugly, irritating woman because she's cheaper to feed.

No brainer, I'll take the looker with good taste in chow. No4 for me, thanks.

LAK
February 7, 2006, 05:15 AM
Given that the SMLE is among the very best 20th century battle rifles and you already handload .303; I would stick with the SMLE.
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cracked butt
February 7, 2006, 08:40 AM
I voted for the No4 once because it wouldn't let me vote 10 times;)

The No4 is a far far better rifle in just about every way.

rbernie
February 7, 2006, 08:42 AM
The No4 is a far far better rifle in just about every way.+1.

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