February 7, 2006, 06:13 PM
STEALTH FIELD WILDERNESS RIFLE ;)
Her's a Yellow Jacket link. http://www.castleofevil.com/buffers/index.html
I was wondering if anyone endorses this type of modification for a larger caliber rifle. My intentions are to mod a Savage 200,110 or a Rem. 710 in .243 or .270. Not drastically but I here my thoughts.
1. Are there suppresors that will fit a Savage or a Rem 710? I looked on impact guns and percy but I hope to hear some first hand experiences.
2. Light trigger(AccuTr. or buy one for the 200)
3. A product like YellowJacket to minimize operating noise
4. Barska 6-29x50
Who makes accessories for these guns? Quiet, balanced, efficient, sleak, urgonmic, long range accuracy, all of these words describe the enhanced rifle. I'm willing to bet the above listed aren't too far off from what I want already.
February 7, 2006, 06:41 PM
The yellow jacket is made for a semi-auto...the rifles you describe as what your wanting are bolt rifles...totally diffrent animals with a diffrent set of parameters...
What you want to do is look into somthing like a Thompson Contender chambered for a 300 Whisper...also known as a 300-221 fireball.
Hope this helps a little....
February 7, 2006, 07:52 PM
I just came across some of that literature before i reopened our thread. The Contender is still a contender. What does it cost? Good long range? Are there modifications for bolt actions that will reduce noise without reducing muzzle velocity?:)
February 7, 2006, 11:32 PM
a really long barrel and a subsonic round are about all you can do without a suppressor.
February 8, 2006, 07:45 AM
You can get a good frame from a gunshow for say 250.
then you can find all manners of barrels for a contender...generally they will be of a smaller nature compared to an Encore.
I would be looking for somthing along the lines of what I have in my carbine. I have a Rynite stock and forend, and have a 45-70 16" and a 21" 17 HMR.
SSK is the holder of the 300 Whisper name...however its the same as a 300-221 Fireball...223 brass can be used but you will need an intermediate sizing die.
The thing about this round is that its a capable peformer with subsonic AND supersonic loads. With subsonic loads at 200+ grains its got about the same report as a 9mm out of a handgun...
I will pm you some extra info since your kinda interested in it.
February 8, 2006, 09:24 AM
If you buy a contender or encore, I suggest you buy the pistol. You can do more with the pistol without getting caught up tax stamps etc. It's pretty easy to unknowingly turn a contender or encore into a SBR/SBS/AOW.
With a pistol receiver you can:
-With a pistol grip use any length rifled barrel.
-With a pistol grip use a shotgun barrel over 23" (see my note below) Between 18-23" you will have an AOW, under 18" you will have an SBS.
-With a rifle stock use any rifled barrel over 16" or shotgun barrel over 18". Any shorter and you have a SBR/SBS.
With a rifle receiver you can:
-With a pistol grip use a rifle or shotgun barrel over 23", between 16"(rifle) and 18"(shotty) and 23" you have an AOW. Under 16"/18" you have an SBS/SBR respectively.
-With a rifle stock use a rifled barrel over 16" or shotgun barrel over 18". Any shorter you have an SBR/SBS.
(side note: 23" barrel is not a legal requirement or number set in law, a 23" barrel on a contender/encore should get you .5"+ past the AOL length requirement. Use your own discretion and measuring tape before taking my advice, it's your firearm and butt not mine)
Shotguns barrels, from what I understand (and I could be completely wrong, and I am still waiting on a response from the ATF), if you have a barrel with a bore diameter exceeding .5" and said bore is not rifled it is considered a shotgun barrel, and when installed on a receiver the firearm is considered a shotgun. Or the barrel exceeds .5" in diameter, is rifled, and chambered to readily accept shotgun ammunition (such as a 12 or 20 gauge rifled barrel), when installed on a receiver the firearm is considered a shotgun. With "shotgun" barrels you have to meet barrel length and AOL requirements for a shotgun.
February 8, 2006, 09:51 AM
All that yellow jacket thing does is decrease the noise of the metal bolt hitting the metal bolt stop. If you want to decrease the noise of cycling the bolt on a bolt action rifle, simply do it slowly.
However, the report from the muzzle will likely make the noise of cycling the bolt a moot point. There isn't anything you can do about that without using a supressor.
Rifle supressors tend to be large, but there is no reason that one couldn't be made for a 710 or a Savage. The hard part is figuring out how to get it to stay on the barrel. The usual solution is to thread the barrel. Threaded barrels may be illegal in your state.