[paintballer]

I'm interested in getting a handgun, and in my discussions, the CZ 75B was recomended. I'm looking for first hand info on accuracy, reliablility, etc. Is this gun worth getting? This would be my first REAL gun. (I say REAL because I own 3 paintball guns.)

[Ohen Cepel]

I don't have one. However, it's on my short list of things to buy (and I already have several 9mm's). I think it's a good solid gun and a good buy at the price they tend to run.

[paintballer]

is it true that it comes in 9mm and .40 cal.?

[mmike87]

Yes, it's worth getting. There are several variants. The 75B is the standard SA/DA model, but with no decocker. It has an external safety and can be carried "cocked and locked" safely.

The 75SA is the SAO model, which has a surprisingly nice single action trigger.

The 75BD is the model with no external safety, but has a decocker.

The 75 is all metal construction, albeit primarily cast parts. It's solid as a rock, however, with excellent fit and finish.

The form factor is patterned somewhat after the Browning High Power, but I have no idea if there are any internal similarities.

The trigger on mine is smooth and not too heavy. It's pretty nice.

The gun has a very low bore axis, and in 9mm has pretty much no muzzel flip to speak of - making for fast and accurate follow up shots.

The factory rubber grips are awesome, inexpensive, and I like them a lot.

I have the 75B "Tactical" which is essentially a black/green two-tone with a couple of other small differences.

Reliability in my 75 has been 100% - the only anomoly has that it hates aluminum cased ammo - so no CCI Blazer. When I shoot Blazer the gun throws the cases DIRECTLY back in my face, EVERY time. This is the only ammo that the gun does this with. It was pretty funny, actually.

The gun is a LITTLE more of a pain to field strip than SIG's or HK's, but not difficult by means.

At around $400 NIB the CZ 75 is a bargain.

[George Hill]

Great gun... get one and you will love it. Few find many faults in the CZ. Get the gun, get a trigger job, and you will be in handgunning heaven.

[paintballer]

no one answered my second question though: does it come in both 9mm and .40 cal? sounds like a good deal, which calibur should i get?

[Ohen Cepel]

They come in both cals, I would get the 9mm. However, I think you're fine either way.

http://czusa.com/ Their website should answer many of your questions.

[ulflyer]

Another CZ you might want to look at is the PCR....basically a 75 with alloy frame and shorter barrel. Good shooter and compact enough to carry if you later want to. About $400 or less with careful shopping.

[paintballer]

where do u like to buy guns, online? or do you have a store. I live in CA so everythings gonna be more $$ probably. I called my local gun store:
$459 for tactical
$429 for the standard version

[R.O.F]

I just bought one 3 weeks ago, I haven't had too much of an opportunity to go out and shoot because it's been so cold. As far as accurracy, this is from 15-20 yards or so.

http://www.geocities.com/bunjamin8/target.jpg

So far I am really impressed with the CZ 75B. I too thought about getting it in the .40, but for the volume of shooting that I was going to be doing, 9mm is FARRRRRR cheaper over the long run. If this is your first "REAL" gun, I'd go with the 9mm. Once you pull the trigger the first time, you won't be able to get rid of the "itch"

[paintballer]

im definatly interested. Where can i get one in southern CA for less than $459?

[paintballer]

ok, now i need to convince my parents to let me get 1. I'm going to compile a research paper, can any one help me out by posting safety tips, storage instructs, cleaning and maintinance, etc?

thanks guys, you've been a real help

[Furncliff]

I have a 9mm cz75b. The 9mm is much cheaper on ammo. It is easy to take down and clean. Seems well built and rugged. They are in use all over the world by police and military. I have only put 600 rounds thru it so I can not speak to accuracy. I normally practice from 10 and 20 yards and I'm still not happy, but I believe it's me. My daughter, 23yo. small frame, small hands has grown to like it, I think she's better with it than I am. I started her on a .22 autoloader (Hi Standard), and I would recommend that you do the same. perhaps your time w/ the pb guns are enough??? In the long run you will want a ,22 to practice with, much cheaper ammo.



CZ75 Owners Manual.....http://www.czshooters.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=4&title=CZ%2075B%20Manual

Be safe.

[atblis]

If you want something to shoot than you want a fullsize steel framed gun. That would be the CZ75B (Available in 40 and 9mm).

The SP01 would also be a great choice for a target gun
http://www.czusa.com/01.detail.php?id=73

[Shootcraps]

posting safety tips, ?

thanks guys, you've been a real help

Remember that the bullets come out going very, very fast. So always keep the gun pointed AWAY from yourself. :evil:






quick, name that movie and who said it. :D

[paintballer]

thank you mr. obvious^^^ :D
thanks

heres my paper i put together to convince my parents to let me get a gun tell me if its good:

MSRP (can get cheaper on the net/ other gun stores)
CZ 75B tactical (green w/ rubber grips): $459
CZ 75B (black w/ polymer grip): $429

Specs:
-Caliber: 9mm (15 round capacity) or .40 (10 round capacity)

Construction:
-Frame: steel
-Grips (standard): plastic
-Trigger: SA/DA
-Sights: fixed dot sights

Safety features:
-manual safety
-Safety-stop on hammer
-firing pin safety

Weight: 2.2 lbs


Ammunition:
-Wolf 9mm or .40 (http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp;jsessionid=O1APRLGO5QHVRTQSNOKCCNOOCJVZOIWE?id=0030650215647a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnString=hasJS=true&_D%3AhasJS=+&QueryText=Wolf+ammo&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.22&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=Wolf+ammo&noImage=0&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&_requestid=68830 )

Recommendations:

“According to CZ, the CZ 75B service pistol is used by more governments, militaries, police, and security agencies than any other pistol in the world.” – chuckhawks.com – reviews

“The CZ75 is a Czechoslovakian (now divided) designed double-action handgun that can be carried cocked-and-locked like a 1911 or Browning Hi-Power type pistol. "Cocked-and-locked" refers to having a round chambered with the hammer cocked, and the safety on. This carry method allows the gun to be brought into action quickly and smoothly.”

“The B stands for "firing pin block safety". The block guards against accidental discharge by "blocking" the firing pin at all times unless the trigger is pulled.” CZ-USA .com

Safety tips: (direct from the CZ-75B instruction manual, only a few have been listed)
 Always handle a pistol as if it were loaded
 Never point a gun at anything you don’t intend to shoot
 NEVER leave the pistol cocked and ready, unattended
 Never take anyone’s word that the pistols is empty
 Always make sure the pistol is empty before laying it down or handing it to someone
 Failure to fire: if the pistol does not fire after the trigger has been pulled, wait 30 seconds with the pistols pointed at the target. Then eject the magazine and examine the bullet. If the firing pin indentation is faint or non existent, take the pistol to a competent gunsmith.
Storage:

 Make sure the chamber is empty
 Eject the magazine and empty them
 Store all pistols in a locked gun case with a trigger lock (trigger locks provided by the Brea Police department for free
 NEVER store the pistol with the magazine still inside
 Make sure the gun is un-cocked
 Turn the safety to the “on” position
 Store the case and ammunition separately and out of sight


thanks again guys

[The Drew]

Umm... If you're in kali, you'll be stuck with 10 round mags I believe...so the capacity issue goes out the window. It's still a great gun. I have one that I tweaked the trigger on and it is now awesome...

[Deer Hunter]

Sounds great man. You know how to contact me if you need anymore information on getting parents to OK gun purchases. I've been down that road a couple times.

[Shootcraps]

thank you mr. obvious^^^ :D
thanks


Anytime. I'm here to help. ;)

Check the gun shows. I picked up a NIB CZ75BD for $329.

[R.O.F]

Great work hunting up the CZ manual. Nothing says safety like something direct from the maker. As a first timer, look into Wolf posts on here. Some like it some hate it. I won't shoot it because it is steel on steel case/chamber. Look into the Winchester White Box (WWB) at Wally-World. Good shells at a decent price. Looks like your set on your CZ dude. Good Luck passing it across the rents. You have the info, can't get much more persuasive than that.


EDIT: Shoot;, I am drawing a blank, I oughtta know this. WHO SAID IT?

[atblis]

the newer factory mags hold 16rnds.

[Steve F]

im definatly interested. Where can i get one in southern CA for less than $459?

Yes you can,If you live near me,(shameless plug:D )here's one;) Let me add that you will also need a $25 saftey certificate,plus proof of residency,such as a utility bill ,or car registration,but no sales tax:neener:


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=175163

[CZ 75 BD]

Can't go wrong.

[Medusa]

Yeah, rock solid and if you run out of ammo you can clobber the enemy with it. Comes in 3 calibres, 9x19 mm, 9x21 mm (rare, though) and .40. Besides you have overlooked a little "thingy" - the gun has very appropriate Kadet kit, basicly a replacement slide so you can convert your CZ75 to .22LR calibre for CHEAP practice, so basically you can have 2 guns on 1 frame, just replace the whole slide.
http://www.czub.cz/index.php?p=32&idp=1&ids=5&idz=19&lang=en

[stiles]

Few find many faults in the CZ.

I wish I didn't find a fault with the CZ's. With my hands I can't reliably put the safety on with the strong hand thumb, the pivot is just a bit to far forward for me to get any leverage on it. That's with the standard safety, on the Standard IPSC and Tactical Sport was OK for me though with the bigger safeties. Taking the safety off is no problem though. And I was going to pick up two CZ's too :( .

[gpaw]

What everyone seems to have left out is that all CZ'S have their slide rails internally like the Sigs. Most 1911's and other pistols have external rails. the internal rails make for better control and accuracy. Takes practice no matter what type of pistol you use.Albeit, the CZ is a fine pistol.