Mossberg 590 tactical pump


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JesseJames
February 7, 2006, 08:26 PM
I've been thinking about getting a Mossberg 590 tactical pump shotgun for defense purposes. Rifled slugs.:D
I've handled some Mossbergs and haven't been too impressed with their build quality though.
Are they as dependable as some people say?
I believe that the Marines use this model and that gives it points so far.

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pezo
February 7, 2006, 08:42 PM
I ordered sight unseen the 590-a1. The one with the heavy barrel, metal safety and triggergaurd but not the speedfeed stock. I am impressed with the build quality, handling and accuracy of this thing.

pezo
February 7, 2006, 08:43 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b260/pezo/redocollection1-6-06.jpg I also grew up with 870's. but this mossy takes the cake imho.

ACP230
February 7, 2006, 08:59 PM
The Mossberg 590 is a good way to get a large tube mag and rifle sights on a relatively short 12 gauge. The same set up on other makes costs more.

I've had a 590 for several years. The only trouble I've had is some difficulty ejecting shells loaded into the chamber directly. Feeding from the magazine worked find. The problem may have been related to the type of buckshot I was using. It seems to have gone away on it's own and I still have a lot of confidence in the 590.

It shoots slugs quite well for a smoothbore gun too. I've shot it out to 100 yards and could have killed a deer with them at that range by holding up some.

I've also done some bird hunting with the 590. So far I've missed the grouse I shot at with it, but believe it to be my problem, not the Mossberg's.

Skipper
February 7, 2006, 09:23 PM
If you can, go for the 590A-1. Heavier built, will last longer than you will.
GREAT sights too !
I love mine !

SKIP

JesseJames
February 7, 2006, 09:53 PM
Most excellent. Mossberg 590A1 it is then. The other gun on my wish-list for the year is the Marlin 1895 mxlr and that should hold me for a while.

JackedLobster
February 8, 2006, 03:00 AM
I have an 835 that i (believe it or not) use for shooting clays for fun. we never get too serious and just shoot a box of pigeons from time to time for fun. do you think the 590 would be ok for shooting clays? keep in mind that i will never be in a competition or anything. i would like a HD shotgun and figured that if the 590 could hit clays, i would be willing to get rid of my pristine 835 to help finance it and cut down on extra guns. (like extra guns could be a problem!!) i saw a 24" barrel for the 590 on gunbroker that i thought might solve the problem if the 590 would not be suitable.

thanks for any help you can offer.

Zach S
February 8, 2006, 09:26 AM
The mossbergs dont feel as smooth as the 870s, but work equally well IMO. Being half-way left handed, the mossbergs actually work better for me. Mine has never failed.

I heard someone here say the remington will outlast the mossberg, but the mossberg will still outlast you.

Dont know about shooting clay pigeons, mossberg's non-sporting guns are CYL bore. Works well for slugs and buckshot, but pretty much sucks for birdshot (mine does anyway). Screw-in chokes would be a big help IMO, but AFAIK, arent an option unless you want someone to do a little work on it.

Dave McCracken
February 8, 2006, 09:53 AM
Unchoked, short barreled shotguns are at a disadvantage for trap and sporting clays. The lack of a choke limits them to best use inside 25 yards or so.

Skeet's longest shot is maybe 23 yards, and fast skeet doubles will improve your moves mach schnell. Skeet's also Grade A fun.

Adding a choked barrel willl set you up for the other games. The more you shoot, the better you get. The better you get with your defensive weapons, even used just to slay fierce and evil clay Frisbees, the more likely you'll survive in an armed encounter.....

1KPerDay
February 8, 2006, 12:44 PM
do you think the 590 would be ok for shooting clays?
I use my 590 Marinecote (with barrel shroud and full-length mag tube) to bust hand-launched clays. I actually hit better with that than I do with my Franchi Ultralight. :D

bowfin
February 8, 2006, 06:38 PM
I have a Mossberg 500 pump gun, and between myself and loaning it out to my uncle, we put that gun through H&LL in the last 20 years. Had to replace the hardwood stock when the "big guy" used it to break his fall off a river bank one year. We used it to shoot trap, ducks, geese, turkey, prairie chickens, sharptail, pheasant, quail, dove, and maybe a coyote or two, plus the infamous summer of shotgun shell testing,:eek: mostly 3" turkey and steel loads.
I feel bad that we didn't take care of it a little better, but since it was "only a Mossberg", it got rode hard and (literally) put away wet. Dust, sand, water, mud, weed seeds, all have failed to knock it out of commission in the field. It shows its age, but I treat it with a little more kindness, and respect, because of where it went and what it has done.

And I love that top tang safety!

Spec ops Grunt
February 8, 2006, 07:17 PM
Should I make a 590 my next gun, or get my first rifle?

V4Vendetta
February 9, 2006, 10:48 AM
I'm wanting to get a 590 Mariner myself. I can't find no one who'll sell me one in NC. I take that to mean that no one wants to get rid of theirs.

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February 12, 2006, 09:41 PM
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Any Cal.
February 12, 2006, 09:42 PM
I've shot a 20" 500 on clays and it isn't hard. You have to hit them in a hurry though. I don't know if my limited experience matters any, but the mossberg seems to be less susceptible operator errors.

SecuritySixShooter
February 13, 2006, 12:52 AM
How much does a 590a1 usually run?

RonB
February 13, 2006, 08:12 PM
I recently purchased a 590. Mine has the barrel heat shield, regular stock, red dot scope, and 6 bullit side clip, (tacitcool, I know). Love the way it shoots. Dave is 100% right on the skeet shooting...gotta hurry with this short barrel. Anything just out of the thrower you will probably hit...1/2 second longer and you will probably miss.

Love mine!

BergaminoCAV
July 11, 2006, 05:14 PM
I just purchased a 590 and I am very pleased with it. I like the fact that it chambers the shells straght insted of angled so the action is smooth as can be. As of the quality the Marines, Army, and many Police Departments use it, so that there is enough said! The only downside to the shotgun that I have noticed is that its light weight gives it a heavier recoil. You can pick up a 590 "new in the box" for around $350 to $600 pending on the model and location of where you live. The model I purchased new has an MSRP of $590.

ApexinM3
July 11, 2006, 10:22 PM
590-A1 is a virtually indestructible weapon. My brother is in the Marines, and after speeking first hand with several of his co-horts, all gave the unanimous agreement that the Mossy is THE way to go. Not terribly expensive, built sturdy, reliable, and did I mention sturdy? Some are now using the Benelli M4, but that seems to be refered to as the jam-o-matic and guys are switching back to the Mossy.

I personally have a 590-A1 that has the Mesa tactical AR-style high mounted stock system with a Hogue overmoulded grip attached & love it, it has never failed me-ever. I also have the aforementioned Benelli M4 (along with an M3S90) and they tend to be a bit more finicky (in semi-auto mode, not pump on the M3) with ammo. They are cool weapons but the Mossy is by far my favorite.

No experience with the 870, thought it also seems to be a fine weapon.

Anyone here have experience with the FN Police Tactical Shotgun? Opinions? Reviews?

chipp
July 11, 2006, 10:29 PM
i hit 28 hand thrown clays in a row with a 590. couln't get 4 in a row for the rest of the weekend. If I remember right I was hiting them before they leveled out because i was afraid it wouldn't have enough range. Still don't know if the short barrel made it easier. only shot clays one other time.
It was a blast.

chipp
July 11, 2006, 10:42 PM
oops was so busy bragging i forgot to pit in my 2 cents.
I've a couple 500s and now the 590.
The only thing I don't like about it:
I read that for HD its best to have a stock with a pistol grip.
So you can shoot it with on hand if you had to. So you can use the other hand to open doors or whatever. it made sence to me. Researhing I"ve been told that the 590 isnt good with a pistol grip stock because you can't reach the safety easily.
I've seen some very nice shotguns with pistol grip stocks.
They also have big price tags. so I'm good with what i have.
I trust it.

usmccpl
July 13, 2006, 10:20 PM
Yep that is the one we use,however it is being phased out in favor of the benelli m4 super 90. Me myself think if it aint broke dont fix it.






one shot one kill

CZF
May 5, 2007, 10:16 PM
I now have a new 590 Mariner to go with my new 75B Stainless.
Any of you with the CAR -15 style adjustable stock on your mariner??
PICS?

mr..plow
May 6, 2007, 02:34 AM
Keep in mind there are many different models of the 590, the military version is 590A1 Part number 51663.

Bayonets on shotguns are just plain cool..

DawgFvr
May 6, 2007, 04:11 PM
I have the 590 as my home defense gun...I'd get the 590A1 if I were combat bound...but for home defense, the 590 fits my requirements. Stock was too long for me...replaced it with a Pach and leather recoil pad which is just the perfect LOP for me.http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=3109624&postcount=5

TCUGLOCKER
August 12, 2007, 02:54 AM
I picked up a Mossy 590A1 for July 4th and have been loving it. I've done several range sessions with different magnum buckshot, reduced recoil buckshot, and different slugs (with some birdshot thrown in). Gosh I love that gun, it has a Bantam stock which is a tad smaller and an 18.5" barrel (the thing feels really small even with no pistol grip; and shoots like a dream). I'm about to invest in a comp or copstock from Knox because defense loads are pretty vicious in this thing. I love the A1 because the heavier barrel and trigger guard make you feel like you could beat someone to death with it. :evil: I haven't had a chance to test it on any clay pigeons but I'm sure I could dispatch some if I pick them up right out of the launcher.

bkjeffrey
August 12, 2007, 03:41 AM
Just my 2 cents here. The 590 is a fine shot thrower. But you mentioned about the Marines carrying it. I carried a Mossberg 500 in Iraq for 7 months. that gun was beat to hell when i got it. It rode in up in the turret of a hummer with me, slept in the dirt with me, went to chow with me, whent to poop with me, was used as a pry bar a few times, was dropped from the tops of hummers into the mud a few times, you name it I did it. That 500 fired a round EVERY time i pulled the trigger! I love the 590 but live by the 500. Just something to think about.

Trifler
August 19, 2007, 10:16 PM
I recommend the VangComp Oversized Safety. It's metal and it makes it much easier to switch the safety on all 590 and 590A1 shotguns. It might be the same one on all the 500-series but I'm not sure. I got mine from Brownells.

silverlance
August 20, 2007, 12:33 PM
so you're basically saying that the 500, despite its crappy plastic parts, is just as reliable and durable as the 590?

good news for me, as i hav ea knoxx sidewinder kit that i'd like to put together and i'd rather not spend too much on a 590.

TFin04
August 20, 2007, 12:35 PM
A little clunky? Yes.

Dead reliable? Absolutely.

I don't like the Moss pumps for hunting or clay games as the forearm rattle drives me nuts.

I do have a 500 home defense set up that I use regularly in 3 gun competitions and it sits next to my bed every night. I trust it 150%.

Trifler
August 20, 2007, 04:25 PM
TFin04,

I don't know where it was, but someone else on here posted that the fore-end rattle can be fixed. I'm sure a gunsmith could do it. The fore-end on my 590 Mariner doesn't rattle.

Scorpiusdeus
August 20, 2007, 04:33 PM
If it says TACTICAL it MUST be good. :neener:

I've owned a 500 before and it was hardy and did the job. I went back to the 870 because it just feels better to me.

I'm sure you'd be happy with it.

Trifler
August 20, 2007, 04:41 PM
These days "tactical" tends to be a term used by manufacturers to describe a particular configuration, usually consisting of (for shotguns): 18" smooth bore barrel, pistol grip with buttstock, and a black/synthetic finish. "Tacti-cool" however, is a totally different thing. ;)

1BLINDREF
August 20, 2007, 04:52 PM
I bought a 590 Special Purpose back in April for a HD shotty. It's my first Mossberg and I really like it. I have a sweet Remington 870 skeet gun and the fit and finish is much nicer then the Mossberg, but I like the way the Mossberg is set up with the slide release and safety positioned so you don't have to change your grip on the gun to manipulate them. The only problem that I've had was with the Federal Tactical buckshot being too long to load 8 rounds and feed properly - but that wasn't the guns fault.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/dexternikki/Long%20guns/IMG_2698.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/dexternikki/Long%20guns/IMG_2699.jpg

Scorpiusdeus
August 20, 2007, 05:19 PM
Nice set up 1BR

davinci
August 20, 2007, 06:11 PM
I'm going to say this, not to insult anyone, but to relieve some of my frustration.

I have an 870 I bought at a gun show recently that was $250. It had a silly flashlight/laser attached to it, and a heat shield. I asked the guy "what for?" he says "had 'em laying around" BS, I think. He's strapping all this stuff on shotguns for 18-21 year old kids who saw this kind of thing in the movies and think a laser is neat.

Of course I took all that junk off (the heat shield was interfering with the action) I have the light/laser thing sitting in a drawer in my desk and use it occasionally to tease the dog, that's about all they're good for. A laser on a 18.5" barrel 12gauge? How about a flashlight? Just what I need, a cheap flashlight with 30" of gun behind it.

A home defense shotgun is just that, it sits by your bed and waits...for decades, for it's turn in the spotlight and you hope that it doesn't get used by the grandchildren that you pass it on to someday for the same reason you had it.

Want to shoot clays? it's the wrong gun. Want to hunt with it? again, the wrong gun. your gun safe is a toolbox, you take out the tool to do the job. If you don't have a box end wrench, you may need to use a pair of pliers...but you're likely to round off the bolt or bust your knuckles in the process. Get the right tool, get the job done right. </rant>

Slimjim
August 20, 2007, 06:27 PM
Want to shoot clays? it's the wrong gun. Want to hunt with it? again, the wrong gun. your gun safe is a toolbox, you take out the tool to do the job. If you don't have a box end wrench, you may need to use a pair of pliers...but you're likely to round off the bolt or bust your knuckles in the process. Get the right tool, get the job done right. </rant>

BS. Ive shot plenty of trap with 18 inch shotguns, and hunted with them

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