Teach your family.

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You know Oleg, there are some I have recently encountered here who would say your message is proof there is paranoia amongst gun owners who choose to carry full time.

This one is for gun owners whose spouses don't carry.

I like this one.

A small, and humble note though, a little "Stick" to the "Powers That Be" might be a viable addition.

Something like "Untill you can afford the same level of security for your family as given to your Congressmen, Teach self-defence to the people you love."

I kind of like that view on it... Makes a point about those in power get this level of security, and at the same time work to make sure most everyone else can't get it.

Of course, I'm sure you can find a better way or more pointed way to say that, I'm no "Word-Smith".

OSG

This one is for gun owners whose spouses don't carry.

Could you take it one step further please? I'm not quite certain how this is not a paranoid thought for a gun owner to want his wife to carry.

I just want to let you know before you begin slashing at this that I'm 110% on your side in this ad. infact, I haven't seen one ad you made yet that I disagree with. But if you ever decide to make one, however, saying US citizens shouldn't carry full time, or between the hours of 6 PM - 6 AM weekdays and 9 AM - 9 PM Saturday and Sunday (due to the "paranoia factor"), then I might just have to take a stand against you. :)

oneslowgun, like this?
http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/albums/arms/yoursenator.sized.jpg

Taurus 66, I am not following your comments. Please clarify.

Bonus image: bodyguard, the husband of the model and another friend waiting for the wabbit.

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Yes I do Oleg, but what I was trying to get at, was maybe a pic of some Governor's daughter surrounded by Secret Service, and then a similar pic showing (any) girl with red marks where there are no "protectors", then the "Untill you can afford the same level of security for your family as given to your Congressmen, Teach self-defence to the people you love."

Or maybe even more simple, the same first pic I suggested (Gov's daughter w/ security) and text: "She has the BEST protection against rape.."

Second pic (any young girl holding a .38 revolver) She has the ONLY protection against rape she can get.. IF she can get it.

Or maybe a small inset (with 2nd pic) of a cellphone, and a .38, with the caption: "What one do you think would stop her from being raped?"

How is that? Hey just throwing out ideas.

BTW, I am in no way denigrating the excellent pic/poster you made. I am simply adding comments and ideas.:D

Might work -- but I want this to be as general as possible. ANY family member, kid, spouse or parent.

Ok Oleg... What I was trying to point out was the differance between those that make the rules, and those that have to abide by the rules.

But do note, that it's 4AM here, and I'm just tossing around ideas (maybe not-so-good ideas:rolleyes: ) no offence ment to your work.:D

None taken, of course. Thanks!

Keep on keepin' on bro. You have very strong skills of pursuation and I'm glad you're on our side.
Keep up the good work in teaching and training our sisters. They are the most vulnerable among us, yet they are consistantly taught that SD is anathema to feminimity. We all know that this is not true. Undoing persistant conditioning is not easy, but it can be done.

JH

...there are some I have recently encountered here who would say your message is proof there is paranoia amongst gun owners who choose to carry full time. One of my favorite authors, cultural historian William Irwin Thompson,
wrote of the difference between paranoia & metanoia.

Paranoia is an affliction in which people are afraid of that which is not real.

Metanoia is the circumstance in which people are concerned about that which is real, but others around them think is not. In retrospect, paranoia is sometimes recognized as metanoia.

Only unbiased historians will be able to judge whether the gun owners of our time were paranoid or metanoid.
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This poster is already one of my favorites, Oleg. Very provocative.

Nice work.

Keep on keepin' on.

Nem

One of my favorite authors, cultural historian William Irwin Thompson,
wrote of the difference between paranoia & metanoia.

Paranoia is an affliction in which people are afraid of that which is not real.

Metanoia is the circumstance in which people are concerned about that which is real, but others around them think is not. In retrospect, paranoia is sometimes recognized as metanoia.

Only unbiased historians will be able to judge whether the gun owners of our time were paranoid or metanoid.
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This poster is already one of my favorites, Oleg. Very provocative.

Nice work.

Keep on keepin' on.

Nem

Nice billiards play, though I was looking for a more 'direct' answer to my question. But by all means continue the game. My pulse is strong and patience thick.

Nice billiards play, though I was looking for a more 'direct' answer to my question. Not to be rude, because your question was reasonable.

But mine WAS a 'direct answer' to your question.

Specifically, there IS a distinction between paranoid & metanoid.

I think that most THR members are metanoid, not paranoid.

Doesn't get much more direct than that, eh?

Nem

I'm not quite certain how this is not a paranoid thought for a gun owner to want his wife to carry.

Why would it be paranoid? I was thrilled when my wife decided to get her carry permit. It meant that she was taking her safety, and that of our children, very seriously. Why was I thrilled with that fact? Well, when was the last time you heard of a man getting forcibly raped at knifepoint? All kinds of people get attacked for all kinds of reasons, and sometimes for no reason at all, and many offenders prey on women in particular. If I think that I'm justified in carrying a firearm for my own self-defense, why in the world wouldn't I want my wife to be armed whenever possible?

My concept would have the bodyguard looking a little more "bodyguardish." sunglasses, talking to their wrist, shoulder holster flashing under the jacket, etc.

I like them all

I'd change it to, "You may not need a full time bodyguard for every member of your family, but you should be able to rely on yourself". "Teach..."

Oleg, I like this one alot. I would say it is in your top 5, with a very clear message that also has undertones to spark discussion.

As an add-on to what oneslowgun suggested...What about a seperate poster with a picture of Secret Service agents, and a caption: "these highly trained and armed men protect Diane Fienstien(sp?) day and night, no wonder she doesn't see the need for guns".

My first suggestion, would be to "shop" some sunglasses onto the "bodygaurd". It shouldn't be too hard, since he's already got glasses on that could be filled in. He looks too much like a "kid" to be part of an executive protection detail.

(LOL, For all I know, he's probably in his 30's, just like me... Lucky &*&^%&^$% grumble... full head of hair... grumble grumble... :rolleyes: )

Maybe not too young is what I'm trying to say, but defnitely lacking that "stone faced" exeuctive protection detail or "Secret Service" look.

The model for the female protectee is excelent, she has a very innocent, open, honest expression on her face.

I also like oneslowgun's idea of re-using the image with some political text, and it would serve both purposes, the protected eliete vs. CCW for the "unwashed masses", AND for hubby's with non-CCW wives.

Top:

"This politician's wife has a full-time protection detail."

Bottom:

"What about yours?"
" Teach self-defense to the one's you love."

I think that makes BOTH points.

I like it, although the type in the lower headline seems needlessly tracked out.

Not to be rude, because your question was reasonable.

But mine WAS a 'direct answer' to your question.

Specifically, there IS a distinction between paranoid & metanoid.

I think that most THR members are metanoid, not paranoid.

Doesn't get much more direct than that, eh?

Nem Hmmm. My tone was a bit strident there, weren't it.

Taurus 66, sorry about that. I reread your posts this morning, and again think your question was a fair one, embedded in appropriate positive support for Oleg's poster and intellectual curiousity and interest in pursuing the idea of paranoia and guns.

I'll stand by my point that there is a distinction between paranoid and metanoid. But - had i to write it over again, in keeping with the goals of THR - I'd have written it with a bit less abrasive assertion.

;)

Nem